Where r the updates?

[Giantdwarf]

It`s been a while since i have seen any updates for anydvd, and been surprised about the new amount of movies that are hard or even impossible to back up..is every thing ok with slysoft, or you guys hitting some road blocks?

[DetroitBaseball]

They are working on AnyHD-DVD. Not to mention these guys deserve to have a small break, they've earned it. It's only been a week, right?

[James]

It`s been a while since i have seen any updates for anydvd, and been surprised about the new amount of movies that are hard or even impossible to back up..is every thing ok with slysoft, or you guys hitting some road blocks?
No, we're all hanging out at the beach getting drunk. :D

Seriously, I don't know of any movies which can't be backed up with AnyDVD & CloneDVD2. Am I missing something?

[DetroitBaseball]

Seriously, I don't know of any movies which can't be backed up with AnyDVD & CloneDVD2. Am I missing something?
I don't either.

[James]

They are working on AnyHD-DVD.

Ha! No, I won't! I am finished! The beta is ready! Let the beta testers test it...
Not to mention these guys deserve to have a small break, they've earned it. It's only been a week, right?
... as I am taking a vacation. :D

[DetroitBaseball]

Ha! No, I won't! I am finished! The beta is ready! Let the beta testers test it...

... as I am taking a vacation. :D
Always bugs to be fixed in a beta. How many users took up that beta testing offer anyways?

[Webslinger]

Seriously, I don't know of any movies which can't be backed up with AnyDVD & CloneDVD2. Am I missing something?

I'm guessing the OP is a Shrink user:

http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=885

As previously noted, Giantdwarf, you can rip with Clonedvd2 and import into Shrink if you desire.
Or you can use Anydvd ripper and import the main movie only into Shrink (with the newer Sony nonsense).

[James]

Always bugs to be fixed in a beta.
Sorry to sound arrogant, but my "betas" usually have release quality. :D
But the reports are collected for a while and then we'll make the fixes. There is no use to release a new beta every day.
How many users took up that beta testing offer anyways?
Don't know, that's not my department.

[DetroitBaseball]

Sorry to sound arrogant, but my "betas" usually have release quality. :D
But the reports are collected for a while and then we'll make the fixes. There is no use to release a new beta every day.

Don't know, that's not my department.
I promise, it has bugs.

[James]

I promise, it has bugs.
Sure. I was joking.

[DetroitBaseball]

Sure. I was joking.
Do you have any idea on a release date for a stable public version? Like 1.0.

[Clams]

No, we're all hanging out at the beach getting drunk. :D

Seriously, I don't know of any movies which can't be backed up with AnyDVD & CloneDVD2. Am I missing something?

Since you said seriously.....

Seriously.. you're missing that there is a large segment of the AnyDVD community that does not want to be force funneled into CloneDVD2 against thier will. Some just like what they are using better, others don't like CloneDVD2 for whatever reason, and others (like myself) would feel hosed by having to buy CloneDVD2 for the express privilidge of making AnyDVD work again so I can import movies into Shrink/Nero as I've always done.

Last we knew, when you got done with AnyDVD-HD you'd take a look at your copy of SAW3 and get to the bottom of this. So do you have any idea "seriously" when this may come to pass??

-W

[DetroitBaseball]

Since you said seriously.....

Seriously.. you're missing that there is a large segment of the AnyDVD community that does not want to be force funneled into CloneDVD2 against thier will. Some just like what they are using better, others don't like CloneDVD2 for whatever reason, and others (like myself) would feel hosed by having to buy CloneDVD2 for the express privilidge of making AnyDVD work again so I can import movies into Shrink/Nero as I've always done.

Last we knew, when you got done with AnyDVD-HD you'd take a look at your copy of SAW3 and get to the bottom of this. So do you have any idea "seriously" when this may come to pass??

-W
It's only Shrink that is having the problems, AnyDVD and other programs besides CloneDVD work with these newer DVDs.

[Clams]

It's only Shrink that is having the problems, AnyDVD and other programs besides CloneDVD work with these newer DVDs.

Patently untrue.... though that would be the prefered spin (hands DB a little Gold Star). It's not only Shrink.
Shrink is just getting most of the posts because it's the most popular of all the other Rippr/Transcoders.


-W

[DetroitBaseball]

Patently untrue.... though that would be the prefered spin (hands DB a little Gold Star). It's not only Shrink.

-W
What other program is having problems?

[Clams]

Have you been following the board the last two weeks??
Try doing a Windows Explorer Rip of SAW3 (no third party programs at all) - Import that rip straight into ANY burning Rom and burn it to a DVD9 - now TRY to play the resulting DVD. Get it yet??

And stop ankle biting.
-W

[DetroitBaseball]

Have you been following the board the last two weeks??
Try doing a Windows Explorer Rip of SAW3 (no third party programs at all) - Import that rip straight into ANY burning Rom and burn it to a DVD9 - now TRY to play the resulting DVD. Get it yet??

And stop ankle biting.
-W
I don't have Saw 3 and I don't waste money on DL DVDs. And what is ankle biting?

[James]

Last we knew, when you got done with AnyDVD-HD you'd take a look at your copy of SAW3 and get to the bottom of this. So do you have any idea "seriously" when this may come to pass??

Don't know... Saw3 is still waiting on my desk to be examined. But I have the premature feeling, that on the fly decryption (what defines AnyDVD) won't cut it anymore for Shrink.
The technical reason is simple: AnyDVD does not, can not and will not analyze the .vob files. Why? It would defeat its primary purpose, as it would need to scan the whole disc after you inserted it. You don't want to wait 15 minutes for the disc icon to appear in explorer. This would be a waste of time, as a copy tool like CloneDVD wouldn't take longer to copy the whole disc to the harddrive.
So you need to "repair" the disc and save the repaired files to harddisk. AnyDVD ripper was a "kludge" which did this, but still - it isn't AnyDVD's primary purpose.
You can use any "repair" tool to copy the disc to harddisk. Maybe VOBBlanker would do.
You could copy the files to harddisk and use FixVTS on the files. Or kindly ask jeanl to add a "copy from A to B" option into FixVTS.
IMHO using CloneDVD2 really is the best and most elegant solution, as you can "preprocess" the disc already while copying it. Something AnyDVD ripper or FixVTS cannot do.
Nevertheless, I *will* look into Saw3 & Co., and if I find a way to make Shrink happy, I'll do so. Unfortunately Shrink isn't really saying much useful why it dislikes the input. "Not enough storage to process this command" isn't really helpful.

[James]

Have you been following the board the last two weeks??
Try doing a Windows Explorer Rip of SAW3 (no third party programs at all) - Import that rip straight into ANY burning Rom and burn it to a DVD9 - now TRY to play the resulting DVD. Get it yet??

No. What will happen? I would believe it will play..???
If the original plays with AnyDVD running, so would a 1:1 copy.

[whatever]

I use DVD shrink and have not had any problems except for today with (are we allowed to state movie titles?)...

[DetroitBaseball]

Don't know... Saw3 is still waiting on my desk to be examined. But I have the premature feeling, that on the fly decryption (what defines AnyDVD) won't cut it anymore for Shrink.
The technical reason is simple: AnyDVD does not, can not and will not analyze the .vob files. Why? It would defeat its primary purpose, as it would need to scan the whole disc after you inserted it. You don't want to wait 15 minutes for the disc icon to appear in explorer. This would be a waste of time, as a copy tool like CloneDVD wouldn't take longer to copy the whole disc to the harddrive.
So you need to "repair" the disc and save the repaired files to harddisk. AnyDVD ripper was a "kludge" which did this, but still - it isn't AnyDVD's primary purpose.
You can use any "repair" tool to copy the disc to harddisk. Maybe VOBBlanker would do.
You could copy the files to harddisk and use FixVTS on the files. Or kindly ask jeanl to add a "copy from A to B" option into FixVTS.
IMHO using CloneDVD2 really is the best and most elegant solution, as you can "preprocess" the disc already while copying it. Something AnyDVD ripper or FixVTS cannot do.
Nevertheless, I *will* look into Saw3 & Co., and if I find a way to make Shrink happy, I'll do so. Unfortunately Shrink isn't really saying much useful why it dislikes the input. "Not enough storage to process this command" isn't really helpful.
Don't work too hard on it James, people need to understand that Shrink is going to have problems since it is not updated anymore.

[SamuriHL]

What's the problem with requiring people who want to use the non-updated DVD Shrink to copy the files to their hard drive, run FixVTS on it, and then open it with Shrink? Why should AnyDVD be updated to support a program that's no longer updated? It simply can't handle non-standard DVD structures. CloneDVD can. CloneDVD will clean the DVD structure up, too, so you can run the output of CloneDVD through Shrink if you want better compression. But if you want a free way to fix the output for Shrink, use FixVTS. If you're proficient in programming, you could write a copy (ripper) program that copies the DVD to the hard drive and then run FixVTS automatically.

[DetroitBaseball]

What's the problem with requiring people who want to use the non-updated DVD Shrink to copy the files to their hard drive, run FixVTS on it, and then open it with Shrink? Why should AnyDVD be updated to support a program that's no longer updated? It simply can't handle non-standard DVD structures. CloneDVD can. CloneDVD will clean the DVD structure up, too, so you can run the output of CloneDVD through Shrink if you want better compression. But if you want a free way to fix the output for Shrink, use FixVTS. If you're proficient in programming, you could write a copy (ripper) program that copies the DVD to the hard drive and then run FixVTS automatically.
Exactly Samuri, AnyDVD and Slysoft should not update just to accomodate for an application that is no longer updated.

[Charlie]

Exactly Samuri, AnyDVD and Slysoft should not update just to accomodate for an application that is no longer updated.

I third the motion. I still use it but only after I rip using clonedvd2 first.

[DetroitBaseball]

I third the motion. I still use it but only after I rip using clonedvd2 first.
Good idea, that solves potential problems. People who don't want to buy CloneDVD are welcome to use a free alternative. A free alternative that is updated!!! RipIt4Me and DVD Fab come to mind.

[SamuriHL]

Exactly Samuri, AnyDVD and Slysoft should not update just to accomodate for an application that is no longer updated.

The thing that's not well understood is that DVD Shrink can not deal with non-standard DVD structures. The problem with that is that these new ANNOYING protections like RipGuard and arrccos screw with the structure WAY too much. AnyDVD is not able to rewrite an entire DVD structure on the fly as James said above. It should be up to whatever program you use that PROCESSES the disc to deal with the structure accordingly. CloneDVD does this. For those that want to use Shrink or Recode(another non-updated, non-supported program IMO), then copy the DVD to the hard drive, run the latest FixVTS on it, and use Shrink. Nothing too complicated there.

[James]

What's the problem with requiring people who want to use the non-updated DVD Shrink to copy the files to their hard drive, run FixVTS on it, and then open it with Shrink? Why should AnyDVD be updated to support a program that's no longer updated? It simply can't handle non-standard DVD structures. CloneDVD can. CloneDVD will clean the DVD structure up, too, so you can run the output of CloneDVD through Shrink if you want better compression. But if you want a free way to fix the output for Shrink, use FixVTS. If you're proficient in programming, you could write a copy (ripper) program that copies the DVD to the hard drive and then run FixVTS automatically.
Maybe a batch .cmd file would do.

[Charlie]

Good idea, that solves potential problems. People who don't want to buy CloneDVD are welcome to use a free alternative. A free alternative that is updated!!! RipIt4Me and DVD Fab come to mind.

I mean don't get me wrong I use anydvd with a few other apps too so I like the fact it is usable with other burning apps that are updated as needed.

[DetroitBaseball]

The thing that's not well understood is that DVD Shrink can not deal with non-standard DVD structures. The problem with that is that these new ANNOYING protections like RipGuard and arrccos screw with the structure WAY too much. AnyDVD is not able to rewrite an entire DVD structure on the fly as James said above. It should be up to whatever program you use that PROCESSES the disc to deal with the structure accordingly. CloneDVD does this. For those that want to use Shrink or Recode(another non-updated, non-supported program IMO), then copy the DVD to the hard drive, run the latest FixVTS on it, and use Shrink. Nothing too complicated there.
I'm glad this forum is lucky enough to have a poster like you that explains things like you do and gives the facts.

[James]

Exactly Samuri, AnyDVD and Slysoft should not update just to accomodate for an application that is no longer updated.
Wait a sec... of course I'll try to make everybody happy. And I like Shrink myself a lot. So if I find a cool solution, I will surely add it.

[James]

I'm glad this forum is lucky enough to have a poster like you that explains things like you do and gives the facts.
He's a pro. :D

[DetroitBaseball]

He's a pro. :D
A pro at what? :confused:

[James]

A pro at what? :confused:
Being able to explain things. Better than I am. ;)

[DetroitBaseball]

Being able to explain things. Better than I am. ;)
Yeah, it truly is an overlooked skill.

[SamuriHL]

Maybe a batch .cmd file would do.

I thought of that, too. It wouldn't be all that hard to do. Take the drive letter and a directory path as inputs, make sure the directory exists, if not, create it, then do the copy. After the copy is complete, there should be a way to pass the directory to FixVTS via command line and kick off that process. Done.

[SamuriHL]

I'm glad this forum is lucky enough to have a poster like you that explains things like you do and gives the facts.

Thank you. :) I appreciate that.

[DetroitBaseball]

Thank you. :) I appreciate that.
You've earned it with your actions. You're a very good poster, keep posting, I enjoy reading them.

[SamuriHL]

Wait a sec... of course I'll try to make everybody happy. And I like Shrink myself a lot. So if I find a cool solution, I will surely add it.

I know you will. That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that you shouldn't HAVE to try to work around issues with software that isn't updated anymore that you aren't getting paid for. It's INSANELY awesome that you do try to work on these issues. Ok, enough of this problem...I have a solution that works if you're interested. You will have to get this one through your people though as I don't TRULY know the ramifications.

What if, for the sake of argument, AnyDVD detects the presence of FixVTS and instead of including the CODE, simply works with it command line similar to what certain other products do? So you could maybe set a path in AnyDVD to point to the FixVTS exe(thus getting around the GPL problem I know you're struggling with) and have AnyDVD auto rip to the hard drive and then call FixVTS when it's done. Would this satisfy all parties?

[James]

I know you will. That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that you shouldn't HAVE to try to work around issues with software that isn't updated anymore that you aren't getting paid for. It's INSANELY awesome that you do try to work on these issues. Ok, enough of this problem...I have a solution that works if you're interested. You will have to get this one through your people though as I don't TRULY know the ramifications.

What if, for the sake of argument, AnyDVD detects the presence of FixVTS and instead of including the CODE, simply works with it command line similar to what certain other products do? So you could maybe set a path in AnyDVD to point to the FixVTS exe(thus getting around the GPL problem I know you're struggling with) and have AnyDVD auto rip to the hard drive and then call FixVTS when it's done. Would this satisfy all parties?
Sure. Consider it done. :D
Technically I would still prefer if FixVTS would allow to copy from A->B, as the process could be finished faster. I am a speed maniac. Buts as I would still use CloneDVD2 to do the rip, it wouldn't hurt me this much. :p

[SamuriHL]

Sure. Consider it done. :D
Technically I would still prefer if FixVTS would allow to copy from A->B, as the process could be finished faster. I am a speed maniac. Buts as I would still use CloneDVD2 to do the rip, it wouldn't hurt me this much. :p

I agree with you on both counts...that FixVTS would be better if it had a copy ability and that people SHOULD use CloneDVD anyway. :D But, this has been an ongoing issue for MONTHS now and would allow you to rip out the old FixVTS code if you wanted to and give people a fairly nice way to get AnyDVD to work with DVD Shrink now and in the future without YOU having to deal with it. If FixVTS is updated, then they just drop the new exe in place and they're done. I think this solution, while not as elegant as you'd probably like, will work well for the time being and satisfy the masses.

[James]

I know you will. That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that you shouldn't HAVE to try to work around issues with software that isn't updated anymore that you aren't getting paid for. It's INSANELY awesome that you do try to work on these issues. Ok, enough of this problem...I have a solution that works if you're interested. You will have to get this one through your people though as I don't TRULY know the ramifications.

What if, for the sake of argument, AnyDVD detects the presence of FixVTS and instead of including the CODE, simply works with it command line similar to what certain other products do? So you could maybe set a path in AnyDVD to point to the FixVTS exe(thus getting around the GPL problem I know you're struggling with) and have AnyDVD auto rip to the hard drive and then call FixVTS when it's done. Would this satisfy all parties?
BTW, FixVTS is only LGPL, so including FixVTS.exe or a modified version isn't a problem.
OTOH a stripped down "CloneDVD2 library" replacing the AnyDVD "ripper" would also be nice.

[Webslinger]

OTOH a stripped down "CloneDVD2 library" replacing the AnyDVD "ripper" would also be nice.

:agree: Sure would!

It would also be easier to support, I would imagine, but probably more time consuming to implement. You also can't really control if a new version of FixVTS suddenly does something goofy that will mess up output from Anydvd.

[James]

If FixVTS is updated, then they just drop the new exe in place and they're done. I think this solution, while not as elegant as you'd probably like, will work well for the time being and satisfy the masses.
This is an argument which is hard to beat. :D

[SamuriHL]

BTW, FixVTS is only LGPL, so including FixVTS.exe or a modified version isn't a problem.
OTOH a stripped down "CloneDVD2 library" replacing the AnyDVD "ripper" would also be nice.

Ah, awesome on the licensing. I knew there was an issue including the newer code base since they changed the license. That's even better then. A stripped down CloneDVD2 library would indeed be nice, but, also a lot more work on your part. This "solution" would work for now and hopefully make the people happy who are having issues.

[SamuriHL]

This is an argument which is hard to beat. :D

I thought you'd like that. Put the ball in someone else's court. ;) That'll free you up to work on other things and still allow people to use DVD Shrink with AnyDVD. I call that a win for everyone. :)

[marieK]

Yeah im having alot of problems downloading new releases now like saw3, and the new one with steven segeal, and a bunch others. Im giving up on this software now and am very frustrated since i paid for the service to download movies and its not. Whats up with the updates are they even workin codes.

[DetroitBaseball]

Yeah im having alot of problems downloading new releases now like saw3, and the new one with steven segeal, and a bunch others. Im giving up on this software now and am very frustrated since i paid for the service to download movies and its not. Whats up with the updates are they even workin codes.
What problems? Be more specific so we can actually have something to go on.

http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=321

[marieK]

I got the dvd shrink program i use to copy and burn to computer and i got anydvd to copy the movies over onto dvd. Im having problems reading the content. Keeps saying error cant read etc...

[James]

I got the dvd shrink program i use to copy and burn to computer and i got anydvd to copy the movies over onto dvd. Im having problems reading the content. Keeps saying error cant read etc...
I suggest you download CloneDVD2 and give it a try. It'll work.

[JimSpencer]

I have been very pleased with anydvd, I have version 6114, however I cannot seem to rip the movie Flicka using Anydvd with CloneDvd2. I have not been able to rip it with Anydvd with 1CLICK DVD COPY PRO nor with DvdFab Platinum. I am up to date on all the software. I am using a Plextor PX-760A with Verbatim media, but no matter how I do it, I am not getting good results. I get bad playback.

[DetroitBaseball]

I have been very pleased with anydvd, I have version 6114, however I cannot seem to rip the movie Flicka using Anydvd with CloneDvd2. I have not been able to rip it with Anydvd with 1CLICK DVD COPY PRO nor with DvdFab Platinum. I am up to date on all the software. I am using a Plextor PX-760A with Verbatim media, but no matter how I do it, I am not getting good results. I get bad playback.
You have a firmware upgrade available.

http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=2247

[marieK]

So i just bought anydvd to copy movies and there not copying all the new releases, so now do i half to pay and download clone dvd like you mentioned before, and if so how long till that software wont work.

[DetroitBaseball]

So i just bought anydvd to copy movies and there not copying all the new releases, so now do i half to pay and download clone dvd like you mentioned before, and if so how long till that software wont work.
AnyDVD isn't supposed to copy movies, it just removes protection on the fly.

[marieK]

I got dvd shrink 3.2 and anydvd to copy. But there not reading the movies apparently. SO is it the dvd shrink that wont copy or the any dvd program not breaking the codes.

[SamuriHL]

I got dvd shrink 3.2 and anydvd to copy. But there not reading the movies apparently. SO is it the dvd shrink that wont copy or the any dvd program not breaking the codes.

DVD Shrink is not able to handle non-standard DVD Structures. My advice is to copy the VIDEO_TS folder from the DVD to your hard drive, download FixVTS and run that in full disc processing mode and with "in place" checked, and then you should be able to open it with DVD Shrink. I'm working on a batch file that'll do some of this automatically for you, but, I'm not done testing it so I don't want to post it yet.

[DetroitBaseball]

DVD Shrink is not able to handle non-standard DVD Structures. My advice is to copy the VIDEO_TS folder from the DVD to your hard drive, download FixVTS and run that in full disc processing mode and with "in place" checked, and then you should be able to open it with DVD Shrink. I'm working on a batch file that'll do some of this automatically for you, but, I'm not done testing it so I don't want to post it yet.
FixVTS fixes the structure by removing things too, so that should fix it like you said, but some users won't want to use FixVTS.

[SamuriHL]

FixVTS fixes the structure by removing things too, so that should fix it like you said, but some users won't want to use FixVTS.

Since I don't work for Slysoft, I can get away with saying this....if they don't want to use FixVTS or CloneDVD, then, OH WELL. Stop using outdated software would be my only advice in that case. :) My recommendation is ALWAYS going to be use CloneDVD, but, I'm trying to keep with James' incredible "I'll do my best to make it work with everything" attitude. Hence the batch file I'm writing...basically you'll put the batch file and FixVTS in the same directory and then open a command prompt to it and type:

AnyRip D: C:\DVD

Or whatever your DVD drive letter is and whatever directory you want to rip to. It then copies the DVD to your hard drive and launches FixVTS with the appropriate parameters. When it's done you should have files on your hard drive that can then be opened with DVD Shrink. I mean, come on...this will solve the problem, so, I don't see the issue here. (I know, I'm not nearly as patient as James...)

[DetroitBaseball]

Since I don't work for Slysoft, I can get away with saying this....if they don't want to use FixVTS or CloneDVD, then, OH WELL. Stop using outdated software would be my only advice in that case. :) My recommendation is ALWAYS going to be use CloneDVD, but, I'm trying to keep with James' incredible "I'll do my best to make it work with everything" attitude. Hence the batch file I'm writing...basically you'll put the batch file and FixVTS in the same directory and then open a command prompt to it and type:

AnyRip D: C:\DVD

Or whatever your DVD drive letter is and whatever directory you want to rip to. It then copies the DVD to your hard drive and launches FixVTS with the appropriate parameters. When it's done you should have files on your hard drive that can then be opened with DVD Shrink. I mean, come on...this will solve the problem, so, I don't see the issue here. (I know, I'm not nearly as patient as James...)
I would recommend RipIt4Me if you don't want to use CloneDVD. It uses DVD Decrypter, FixVTS, and DVD Shrink, and can handle new DVDs. That's a solution for AnyDVD and Shrink users who are experiencing problems with newer DVDs for now.

[SamuriHL]

I would recommend RipIt4Me if you don't want to use CloneDVD. It uses DVD Decrypter, FixVTS, and DVD Shrink, and can handle new DVDs. That's a solution for AnyDVD and Shrink users who are experiencing problems with newer DVDs for now.

I'll leave it to James to explain why this is not the best recommendation for AnyDVD users. :)

[DetroitBaseball]

I'll leave it to James to explain why this is not the best recommendation for AnyDVD users. :)
Remember, James cannot explain things that well. :)

[SamuriHL]

I'm going to put a standard disclaimer here...This batch file is not supported by ANYONE, including me. :) Use at your OWN RISK. If it works for you, great. If it doesn't, or causes your DVD to melt in the drive or any other problems, I'm sorry, but, can't be held responsible. That being said, I just tested this out and it seemed to work for me. Copy and paste the following (minus the --CUT HERE-- lines of course) into a file called AnyRip.bat:

--CUT HERE--
@echo off
if %1"" == "" goto USAGE
if %2"" == "" goto USAGE

echo Ripping from drive [%1] to directory: %2
if not exist %2 mkdir %2

xcopy %1\*.* %2\ /E

:FIXVTS
echo Fixing DVD structure
FixVTS -u -p -i -s -f %2\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.vob

goto end

:USAGE
echo Usage: AnyRip drive directory (E.G. AnyRip d: C:\DVD)

:end
echo Complete!
--CUT HERE--

Download FixVTS (http://download.videohelp.com/FixVTS/). Drop FixVTS.exe and AnyRip.bat in the same directory. Next open a cmd prompt and cd to the directory containing AnyRip.bat and FixVTS.exe. Usage:

AnyRip D: C:\DVD

Where D: is your DVD drive letter and C:\DVD is the directory you wish to rip to. (Don't use spaces in the path...just causes problems) This will copy the DVD to your hard drive and then run FixVTS on it. When it's done, you can then open the directory using DVD Shrink.

Enjoy!

[DetroitBaseball]

Download FixVTS...I don't know Slysoft's policy on linking to programs in the forum and if that's allowed or not so just google for FixVTS download to find the latest version. Drop the FixVTS.exe and AnyRip.bat in the same directory. Next open a cmd prompt and cd to the directory containing AnyRip.bat and FixVTS.exe. Usage:
* Linking to a commercial product/service is fine, provided it is not a product or service that competes with a product or service offered by SlySoft and it is not an affiliate program link for vBulletin or any other affiliate program.
* Promotional text for a commercial product or service is ok, provided there are no price(s) of product(s) or service(s) listed.
* A link and promotional text for a site that is not commercial and does not contain product(s) and/or service(s) is allowed, provided the site is not sexual or does not violate SlySoft community standards. The SlySoft team shall be the sole arbitrator of what does and what does not violate community standards. (Examples include sites about drugs and/or sex.)
* Duplicate links to the same URL in a sig are not allowed.

Based on this, you should be able to link to it.

[SamuriHL]

* Linking to a commercial product/service is fine, provided it is not a product or service that competes with a product or service offered by SlySoft and it is not an affiliate program link for vBulletin or any other affiliate program.
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* Duplicate links to the same URL in a sig are not allowed.

Based on this, you should be able to link to it.

Oh sure, throw the TOS in my face why don't you? :D ROFL! Ok, I'll edit my post.

[SlyFox 1]

No. What will happen? I would believe it will play..???
If the original plays with AnyDVD running, so would a 1:1 copy. 1ClicktoDVD and AnyDVD work fine on SawIII and all other titles. So do alot of other proggys. Shrink is in the minority.:agree:

[DetroitBaseball]

Oh sure, throw the TOS in my face why don't you? :D ROFL! Ok, I'll edit my post.
Heh, I was just trying to clear things up.

[linx05]

Add a -p and -u. -u to remove unreferenced VCIDs and -p to fix bad PGC lba pointers.

[SamuriHL]

Add a -p and -u. -u to remove unreferenced VCIDs and -p to fix bad PGC lba pointers.

Done, thank you. I'm not all that familiar with FixVTS so I appreciate the assistance.

[SlyFox 1]

Since I don't work for Slysoft, I can get away with saying this....if they don't want to use FixVTS or CloneDVD, then, OH WELL. Stop using outdated software would be my only advice in that case. :) My recommendation is ALWAYS going to be use CloneDVD, but, I'm trying to keep with James' incredible "I'll do my best to make it work with everything" attitude. Hence the batch file I'm writing...basically you'll put the batch file and FixVTS in the same directory and then open a command prompt to it and type:

AnyRip D: C:\DVD

Or whatever your DVD drive letter is and whatever directory you want to rip to. It then copies the DVD to your hard drive and launches FixVTS with the appropriate parameters. When it's done you should have files on your hard drive that can then be opened with DVD Shrink. I mean, come on...this will solve the problem, so, I don't see the issue here. (I know, I'm not nearly as patient as James...)
You are a smart guy SamuriHL, I have read some of your posts @ CDF. AnyDVD & CloneDVD2 is the way to go. If you don't want to pay you don't have play. :agree: But I think you already own CloneDVD2 don't you SamuriHL?

[SamuriHL]

You are a smart guy SamuriHL, I have read some of your posts @ CDF. AnyDVD & CloneDVD2 is the way to go. If you don't want to pay you don't have play. :agree: But I think you already own CloneDVD2 don't you SamuriHL?

Are you kidding? Of course I do!! Have for years. LOVE IT!!! I own AnyDVD and CloneCD, as well. Best purchases I've ever made as far as I'm concerned. And as I said, I ALWAYS recommend CloneDVD to rip even if people want to use something else to compress with, however, you're aware of how much resistance there is out there to "having to buy another product" for ripping. So, I thought I'd write this little script and see if it helps people. I still think if you want to get over this stupid issue more permanently you guys should take my suggestion to integrate AnyDVD with FixVTS.exe and let people use an updated FixVTS. Then the onus is on FixVTS not AnyDVD. :) And you guys can start worrying about other things.

[marieK]

Please be patient with me as im not familiar with dvd copying material or computer smart. This is my first software copying stuff i got..

Ok I got dvd shrink3.2 i use to burn new releases into my c drive on my computer (open files, then back up are the the things i click on for dvd shrink), Then i use any dvd the new version6.1.4 etc to read cd and unlock copy right codes etc, then i use copy to dvd to burn the movie from my hard drive (C:) to a blank dvd!

My question is with what i got what material there is outdated or old, and what new material can i download in its place to make more updated versions to copy new releases!

I just dont underdstand how to switch or convert the VTS files over etc. as i dont understand what VTS, or ifo files are exactly.. Like i said im learning as i go.. Anyone with the patients that can help id greatly appreciate..

[SamuriHL]

Please be patient with me as im not familiar with dvd copying material or computer smart. This is my first software copying stuff i got..

Ok I got dvd shrink3.2 i use to burn new releases into my c drive on my computer (open files, then back up are the the things i click on for dvd shrink), Then i use any dvd the new version6.1.4 etc to read cd and unlock copy right codes etc, then i use copy to dvd to burn the movie from my hard drive (C:) to a blank dvd!

My question is with what i got what material there is outdated or old, and what new material can i download in its place to make more updated versions to copy new releases!

I just dont underdstand how to switch or convert the VTS files over etc. as i dont understand what VTS, or ifo files are exactly.. Like i said im learning as i go.. Anyone with the patients that can help id greatly appreciate..

Well, the options are simple. We all recommend that you download the 21 day trial of CloneDVD and give it a try. Once you try it you'll probably forget about all the problems you've had.

Now, if you're opposed for whatever reason to buying CloneDVD, well, then you have one real option. That is to either use the script I pasted above, or you can simply drag the VIDEO_TS folder from the DVD to your hard drive and let Windows do the copy. When that's done, open FixVTS and use it on the VIDEO_TS folder you just dragged to the hard drive. Once you process it, you should be good to open it with DVD Shrink.

Now, to me, looking at the options, CloneDVD is the most logical choice. You won't have issues with it, you'll get full support from Slysoft if you do run into problems, and it's just FREAKING EASY TO USE. The choice is yours, of course, and we'll do our best to help you if you insist on sticking with DVD Shrink.

[TM2-Megatron]

My question is with what i got what material there is outdated or old, and what new material can i download in its place to make more updated versions to copy new releases!

I just dont underdstand how to switch or convert the VTS files over etc. as i dont understand what VTS, or ifo files are exactly.. Like i said im learning as i go.. Anyone with the patients that can help id greatly appreciate..

I believe Nero Recode can also be used for all the new titlels that DVDShrink won't handle, provided you have AnyDVD running. Recode is basically just an updated version of DVDShrink without the ability to bypass copy-protection natively.

[DetroitBaseball]

I believe Nero Recode can also be used for all the new titlels that DVDShrink won't handle, provided you have AnyDVD running. Recode is basically just an updated version of DVDShrink without the ability to bypass copy-protection natively.
It costs a lot of money, I doubt the poster is willing to spend money on yet another program.

[SamuriHL]

Ok so if i go to the clone dvd and download that does that replace the dvd shrink part of the process and will that convert everything over to files on my hardrive without going to fixvts etc, then next step would be just to use the copy to dvd to copy to dvd?

CloneDVD replaces FixVTS, DVD Shrink, and if you want, CopyToDVD, as well. Load up CloneDVD, select the first or second button depending on whether you want a movie only or full backup, select the titlesets you want to keep(you can preview each one) and unselect the ones you don't want to keep, go to the next page, select the audio and subtitles you want to keep, go to the next screen, select a hard drive folder, iso image, or dvd drive that you want to output to, and click GO. Done. If you selected the dvd burner it'll prompt you to put a blank in when the time is right and it'll burn it for you. It can not be ANY easier than CloneDVD. Seriously. Download it, install it, and try it out. You won't look back.

[Charlie]

You could do like I do to use clonedvd to output the files in DVD9 format then use shrink if you want the shrinks transcoder engine too. But clonedvd alone can do this as well.

[DetroitBaseball]

You could do like I do to use clonedvd to output the files in DVD9 format then use shrink if you want the shrinks transcoder engine too. But clonedvd alone can do this as well.
Yeah, there's plenty of options.

[SamuriHL]

You could do like I do to use clonedvd to output the files in DVD9 format then use shrink if you want the shrinks transcoder engine too. But clonedvd alone can do this as well.

That works, as well, but, I didn't want to confuse the issue. Let them try CloneDVD first and see how that goes.

[DetroitBaseball]

That works, as well, but, I didn't want to confuse the issue. Let them try CloneDVD first and see how that goes.
You're right, beginners can get confused easily. CloneDVD is not hard to use though, it guides you through it.

[SamuriHL]

You're right, beginners can get confused easily. CloneDVD is not hard to use though, it guides you through it.

Yup. Like I said, everyone has to start somewhere. Start out simple and as you learn customize it to get your backup to your liking. :) So, in this case, I recommended CloneDVD because we know it works, it's easy to use, and it can lead to more complicated back up solutions if for some reason it's not satisfactory.

[Charlie]

That works, as well, but, I didn't want to confuse the issue. Let them try CloneDVD first and see how that goes.

True, I just wanted to point this out, but I see it longer and still simple but others (new people) may not.

[Webslinger]

It costs a lot of money, I doubt the poster is willing to spend money on yet another program.

He may already have Nero Recode 2.x already, in which case, it's really the best solution for a user that's use to Shrink. TM2-Megatron is correct in that sense. If not, then I guess Shrink users who like Anydvd better get use to FixVTS and possibly having to deal with complications that may arise as both Anydvd and FixVTS are updated.

[SamuriHL]

True, I just wanted to point this out, but I see it longer and still simple but others (new people) may not.

It's a perfectly valid method and I've used it myself many times. DVD-RB is exceptional at compressing longer movies or movies with lots of action. If you don't want to put them on a DVD+R DL or split it, then ripping with CloneDVD using the DVD+R DL setting to turn off compression is an excellent way to get standard output that will work with programs that are more picky about the DVD structure. These days I tend to just burn to DVD+R DL discs as I can often find them on sale and pick up a pack of them every now and then. Currently I'm out and waiting for a sale, but, most of the time I have them kicking around. :) Anyway, yea, your method is definitely a very good thing to use CloneDVD for.

[SamuriHL]

He may already have Nero Recode 2.x already, in which case, it's really the best solution for a user that's use to Shrink. TM2-Megatron is correct in that sense. If not, then I guess Shrink users who like Anydvd better get use to FixVTS and possibly having to deal with complications that may arise as both Anydvd and FixVTS are updated.

But, in the end isn't it better that AnyDVD works with the FixVTS.exe and gives DVD Shrink users the option to have an "updated" AnyDVD Ripper function? Yes, it's slower, but, it'll get the job done. That way they won't necessarily have to wait for AnyDVD to be updated...if a new FixVTS comes out that deals with a new protection, you can update FixVTS and then use AnyDVD to rip the movie and get it fixed up automatically. That's assuming James makes that connection, of course. I see it as a benefit to everyone to do it this way and takes the pressure off Slysoft to constantly fix the problems that DVD Shrink users are having.

[Webslinger]

But, in the end isn't it better that AnyDVD works with the FixVTS.exe and gives DVD Shrink users the option to have an "updated" AnyDVD Ripper function?

Actually, I feel quite strongly that the following is the better solution:
"a stripped down "CloneDVD2 library" replacing the AnyDVD "ripper" would also be nice"

In this manner, Anydvd users (that also happen to use Shrink), won't be subject to complications that may possibly arise as a result of either FixVTS or Anydvd being updated. In the long run, this is more easily supported as well (but not as easily implemented). I certainly don't want to answer more questions, such as "why isn't FixVTS working for me?" Maybe others do (I submit to the accusation of being lazy, which is another reason I haven't touched any Clonecd gaming backup questions, fwiw; to get the desired goal, quite often you're going to be using a third party product--not to mention dealing with hardware limitations, etc.).

Certianly, what you're offering is better than the current solution, and I respect your efforts (very much so). That said, I do not feel it's a very satisfying, nor elegant solution as having an Anydvd ripper that's fully functional. That's merely my opinion.

Thankfully, this issue is never going to affect me.

[Webslinger]

Oh sure, throw the TOS in my face why don't you? :D ROFL! Ok, I'll edit my post.

I can't speak for the admin or Slysoft 1, but if you upload the .bat file, I won't care. I also don't care if you put a link to fixvts, as I don't feel it's a competing product. /shrug

[Clams]

No one here (that i know of) condones the burning of rented movies. Another thing that personally annoys me is people that clip off the closing credits to save space. For some people, that name on the end of the movie is a part of thier compensation.

[TM2-Megatron]

Whats the difference between movie only, or full backup when using the dvd clone software... See i rent movies and want to burn them with this software(clonedvd)! Just want to know whats the best setting..
Thanks again for all the help. Its starting to all sink in now:agree: :agree:

I'm quite sure copying rented DVDs with this software isn't allowed... certainly discussion of it isn't allowed here. This software is really only for backing up DVDs you've actually purchased.

[Clams]

Originally Posted by James
"a stripped down "CloneDVD2 library" replacing the AnyDVD "ripper" would also be nice"

I agree with Webslinger - who agrees with James - on this idea. If indeed AnyDVD *can't* be patched to allow a movie to rip with Shrink, then it would be nice if the AnyDVD ripper could at least rip the entire DVD to the hard drive and then Shrink lovers could take it from there.

There's just TOO many Shrink fans out there to leave them twisting forever, if there's any way to work around it.

I'm not even sure I like Nero Recode2 as well. I can't find a way to force desired streams the way I can with Shrink. (I could be missing it though)

Looking at SAW3 (widescreen) I'm seeing a lot of bogus titles (99 titles total on the DVD) that may be the cause of the problem. Perhaps an expanded feature to remove bogus titles would even help - or not. :)

-W

[Webslinger]

I think i recall it even saying backups are illegal even if not for monatary gain etc??

Not in all countires--and certainly not in mine, at least, not yet.

But I will not help people who are copying rented discs.
Others might, but I can't.

[Webslinger]

I'm quite sure copying rented DVDs with this software isn't allowed... certainly discussion of it isn't allowed here. This software is really only for backing up DVDs you've actually purchased.

please visit http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=4304&postcount=109

Also, SlySoft is based in Antigua, which is a DMCA free zone

[TM2-Megatron]

Well actually I meant already bought dvds! sorry to cause a disturbance.. But to my knowledge isnt a rented one the same as a store bought one. Thats why they dont sell this stuff in stores. I think i recall it even saying backups are illegal even if not for monatary gain etc?? But im not expert on the matter just tryin to figure out how to Burn Previously Bought Dvds from stores!

Depending on where you live, backing up DVDs you own is more of a grey area than actually illegal; at least IMO. And even if there are laws specifically against backing up purchased DVDs, that's the type of rule an enlightened mind knows is better left ignored. But copying DVDs you just rent is illegal, no doubt about it. I'm not up to speed on the exact legal implications of the whole thing, but I believe the rental fee for a movie doesn't entitle an end user to all the same rights as one you actually purchased from a store. A rental DVD is the same as a retail version, yes, but the licenses and rights granted to the home viewer are different.

[Androo79]

The people that are complaining about not being able to copy movies like Saw III and Running with Scissors are probably not even paying for AnyDVD in the first place, or Shrink. They don't want to use CloneDVD2 because they are too cheap to pay for a program that they would use everyday.

I will admit that for most of the last year I was using a "non-official" version of AnyDVD and Shrink. Then I said to myself, "Hey stupid, you use AnyDVD everyday so why not pay the $68 to get AnyDVD and CloneDVD2?"

Besides, if you actually pony up and pay for it you don't have to b*tch and complain about not being able to copy a DVD every time a new movie comes out. Plus, you can get the updates as soon as they come out.

I say this forum should be locked down to keep out the people that do not even own a Slysoft product. Then we could get rid of all of the post about not being able to copy movies.

[Webslinger]

I say this forum should be locked down to keep out the people that do not even own a Slysoft product. Then we could get rid of all of the post about not being able to copy movies.

I've no doubt Slysoft admin has probably considered this already. I'm not sure how Slysoft feels about that.

I know Bioware/Obsidian Entertainment, for example requires you to register their games before you can post in their forums (Neverwinter Night 2 being one example). Doing so probably helps get rid of having to answer pirate's questions.

[Webslinger]

thats the whole reason why im in here because i have the software i bought and paid for through this site and cant burn new movies im buying full price for. But i found out i have old software now..

visit http://www.slysoft.com/download.html and please
read the stickies (at the top of each page) in the Clonedvd and Anydvd forums. Thank you.

[Clams]

The people that are complaining about not being able to copy movies like Saw III and Running with Scissors are probably not even paying for AnyDVD in the first place, or Shrink. They don't want to use CloneDVD2 because they are too cheap to pay for a program that they would use everyday.

Just to make it clear, I paid for my AnyDVD (and f-ing love it overall) and would pay at least TWICE as much for Shrink as I would for CloneDVD2.

It's not our fault that Shrink is/was the best DVD Software for the money :D (There's a reason the DVDShrink dood now writes for Nero - the big fish in the burning software market.)

Remeber not everyone out there is a geek. There's a large perception that "If it doesn't work with Shrink - It just doesn't work"

2.5 years after its last update, Shrink is still a very big fish in these waters - and if it works OK under Vista, it'll prolly remain at least a force to contend with for a while yet.

-W

[Tony_ca1]

I dont know about you all,I already bouth AnyDVD and ClonedvD and Clone cd along time ago and i sometimes still use DVD shrink,but i have to say that the most of the time i use just AnyDVd with Clone DVd but 2 days ago i was not able to make a copy of open Season for my kids... It is a Pal version region 2 and for some reason it keeps getting stuck on 98 % percent wen ripping the movie.I tried ripping the full dvd nothing tried ripping only the main movie and just one language and also nothing.I tried it with different dvd burners,Plextor S ata 760-Sony DRU 810-Samsung S ata 183 A-Liteon 832 S and id did not work with any of these dvd writers.

So this has nothing to with Shrink or with a faulty original dvd because i was able to copy the full movie with Ripit4me and then FixVTS and then i could use CloneDVD or Shrink 3.2.

This proves that there are stil some movies that Anydvd and CloneDVD cant copy.

[SamuriHL]

Actually, I feel quite strongly that the following is the better solution:


In this manner, Anydvd users (that also happen to use Shrink), won't be subject to complications that may possibly arise as a result of either FixVTS or Anydvd being updated. In the long run, this is more easily supported as well (but not as easily implemented). I certainly don't want to answer more questions, such as "why isn't FixVTS working for me?" Maybe others do (I submit to the accusation of being lazy, which is another reason I haven't touched any Clonecd gaming backup questions, fwiw; to get the desired goal, quite often you're going to be using a third party product--not to mention dealing with hardware limitations, etc.).

Certianly, what you're offering is better than the current solution, and I respect your efforts (very much so). That said, I do not feel it's a very satisfying, nor elegant solution as having an Anydvd ripper that's fully functional. That's merely my opinion.

Thankfully, this issue is never going to affect me.

Nor will it affect me, but, too many Shrink users are not happy with the state of AnyDVD today. Therefore I felt a quick fix is better than no fix. Would a dedicated CloneDVD library implementation for the AnyDVD ripper be the best solution? Of course!! But that takes time, development, and testing. IOW, it's not going to be out tomorrow. The changes I'm asking for could be done really quickly and would at least give Slysoft more time to implement a proper solution. I'm not saying what I suggested was necessarily a permanent fix to the problem, but, it would do for now.

[SamuriHL]

I dont know about you all,I already bouth AnyDVD and ClonedvD and Clone cd along time ago and i sometimes still use DVD shrink,but i have to say that the most of the time i use just AnyDVd with Clone DVd but 2 days ago i was not able to make a copy of open Season for my kids... It is a Pal version region 2 and for some reason it keeps getting stuck on 98 % percent wen ripping the movie.I tried ripping the full dvd nothing tried ripping only the main movie and just one language and also nothing.I tried it with different dvd burners,Plextor S ata 760-Sony DRU 810-Samsung S ata 183 A-Liteon 832 S and id did not work with any of these dvd writers.

So this has nothing to with Shrink or with a faulty original dvd because i was able to copy the full movie with Ripit4me and then FixVTS and then i could use CloneDVD or Shrink 3.2.

This proves that there are stil some movies that Anydvd and CloneDVD cant copy.

Did you send IFOs to slysoft support? The only way you're going to get an update to AnyDVD that will allow you to copy a new protection is if they know about it. And once they has the IFOs, they're usually very quick about updating to deal with it. The exception was Saw3 which was a ridiculous copy protection to begin with. Nonetheless Slysoft had an update out within a few days which is acceptable to me. If you truly can't rip a title with CloneDVD and AnyDVD, DEFINITELY report it to Slysoft if you haven't.

[Webslinger]

i was not able to make a copy of open Season for my kids... It is a Pal version region 2 and for some reason it keeps getting stuck on 98 % percent wen ripping the movie.

http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=330

[Webslinger]

Therefore I felt a quick fix is better than no fix.

I agree. I linked to your fix in the Shrink sticky. Thank you.

[Charlie]

The only problem doing this is that he'll be asked to update when issues arise.

[RanMan]

New to the forum but I'm a long time AnyDVD & Clone DVD2 user. I also like the compression much better with the old Shrink program but was unaware that you can run a these new Sony protected movies thru Clone then into Shrink. I'm not much of a PC guru so in simple terms, how can I do this? Appreciate any input.

[Webslinger]

New to the forum but I'm a long time AnyDVD & Clone DVD2 user. I also like the compression much better with the old Shrink program but was unaware that you can run a these new Sony protected movies thru Clone then into Shrink. I'm not much of a PC guru so in simple terms, how can I do this? Appreciate any input.

Instead of choosing your burner for the output method, choose "dvd video files".
Ensure the "quality" bar is set to "dvd+/-R DL". Then after Clonedvd2 is finished ripping, just import the folder you created into Shrink.

[RanMan]

Thanks for replying. Where in Clone DVD2 do I switch from "Burner" to "DVD Video Files"?

[Charlie]

Thanks for replying. Where in Clone DVD2 do I switch from "Burner" to "DVD Video Files"?

Before you start copying the DVD it'll ask you if you want to A) use the DVD writer

B) ISO file on the PC

C) File Format on the PC.

[Webslinger]

Before you start copying the DVD it'll ask you if you want to A) use the DVD writer

B) ISO file on the PC

C) File Format on the PC.


Yeah, this appears on the "Output method" screen of Clonedvd2 (I think it's the screen right after you choose the audio sources).

[SamuriHL]

Yup, just follow their advice and you're good to go. Output the files to your hard drive and then open the folder in Shrink. Using this method you should have no problems. Also, a good side effect of this method is you can unselect stuff you don't want when in CloneDVD(such as previews, logos, etc) while keeping the full menu structure. Then you can do a full disc mode in Shrink and not have to worry about unselecting anything.

[freedom2]

RanMan.................

if you use CloneDvD2 you don't need to run the files back through
DvDShrink:disagree: you can shrink your movie/and check off what
you don't want in CloneDvD2 no need to send movie files back through
DvDShrink..and no need to rip to hard drive if you have a DvDRom/
DvDBurner aswell:bowdown:

or rip to hard drive either

i'm a proud owner of all the software, but hardley ever use Shrink
anymore, don't need it with AnyDvD/CloneDvD2 combo.

very simple as well.......................

[Giantdwarf]

AnyDVD isn't supposed to copy movies, it just removes protection on the fly.

My Point exactly...did not mean to touch a nerve with you guys...but i was really happy with anydvd , had no complaints but i am just surprised that anydvd can not remove most of the protections on new releases like saw 3 and the grudge 2...i really am comfortable with dvd shrink ,and with the updates from anydvd had no problems that was not resolved two or three days max..don`t get me wrong Congrats on the new anydvd hd...but for the rest of us that gave you your start with anydvd i`m just saying ..Dont forget about us...

[RanMan]

Thanks for all the input guys. I like to use the compression ration in shrink when doing a movie over 2 hours, it just seems to do a little better job than just using AnyDVD & Clone, they are however, the combo I use 80% of the time.

[DetroitBaseball]

My Point exactly...did not mean to touch a nerve with you guys...but i was really happy with anydvd , had no complaints but i am just surprised that anydvd can not remove most of the protections on new releases like saw 3 and the grudge 2...i really am comfortable with dvd shrink ,and with the updates from anydvd had no problems that was not resolved two or three days max..don`t get me wrong Congrats on the new anydvd hd...but for the rest of us that gave you your start with anydvd i`m just saying ..Dont forget about us...
It can remove those protections, DVD Shrink just has problems with different DVD structures.

[SamuriHL]

My Point exactly...did not mean to touch a nerve with you guys...but i was really happy with anydvd , had no complaints but i am just surprised that anydvd can not remove most of the protections on new releases like saw 3 and the grudge 2...i really am comfortable with dvd shrink ,and with the updates from anydvd had no problems that was not resolved two or three days max..don`t get me wrong Congrats on the new anydvd hd...but for the rest of us that gave you your start with anydvd i`m just saying ..Dont forget about us...

I take issue with what you're saying here. (no, I'm not mad or anything like that, LOL! Just that I disagree with your statements) AnyDVD most definitely CAN remove the more recent protections. It just doesn't do so in a way that DVD Shrink is happy with. That is NOT AnyDVD's fault. They aren't "forgetting the rest of us"...AnyDVD was updated to handle the latest protections and does so just fine for those that use something like CloneDVD that can deal with non-standard DVD structures. If you want to use DVD Shrink, then you will need to do a bit of extra work. In this thread I posted a temporary fix for DVD Shrink users that copies the DVD to the hard drive and runs the output through FixVTS. You can either use my script or you can copy the DVD to the hard drive yourself by using drag and drop in explorer and then running it through FixVTS. Once that's done you will be able to open it with DVD Shrink.

[DetroitBaseball]

I take issue with what you're saying here. (no, I'm not mad or anything like that, LOL! Just that I disagree with your statements) AnyDVD most definitely CAN remove the more recent protections. It just doesn't do so in a way that DVD Shrink is happy with. That is NOT AnyDVD's fault. They aren't "forgetting the rest of us"...AnyDVD was updated to handle the latest protections and does so just fine for those that use something like CloneDVD that can deal with non-standard DVD structures. If you want to use DVD Shrink, then you will need to do a bit of extra work. In this thread I posted a temporary fix for DVD Shrink users that copies the DVD to the hard drive and runs the output through FixVTS. You can either use my script or you can copy the DVD to the hard drive yourself by using drag and drop in explorer and then running it through FixVTS. Once that's done you will be able to open it with DVD Shrink.
I get mad when people don't have the facts straight and they start making false statements.

[SamuriHL]

I get mad when people don't have the facts straight and they start making false statements.

Patience. :) Everyone makes mistakes and none of us are perfect. They're simply mistaken and that's ok.

[DetroitBaseball]

Patience. :) Everyone makes mistakes and none of us are perfect. They're simply mistaken and that's ok.
No, not when uninformed people could come along and read that post and start to believe that AnyDVD isn't doing its job.

[SamuriHL]

No, not when uninformed people could come along and read that post and start to believe that AnyDVD isn't doing its job.

Doesn't that just mean we have to be diligent in correcting the mistakes? :) I agree that it's possible that someone could read the post and determine that AnyDVD isn't working correctly, but, that just means we have to make sure that the correct information is there, as well.

[DetroitBaseball]

Doesn't that just mean we have to be diligent in correcting the mistakes? :) I agree that it's possible that someone could read the post and determine that AnyDVD isn't working correctly, but, that just means we have to make sure that the correct information is there, as well.
Of course. I mean, I don't actually get physically mad over it, I just get a little mad that people are posting false information.

[Giantdwarf]

I get mad when people don't have the facts straight and they start making false statements.

Again...i did not mean to touch a nerve..but the fact is..new movies are coming out regardless what program you use to back up a movie..anydvd is or states that the program works in the background to override any new copyright or ripguard movies....ok dvd shrink is out dated, but it works just fine with the past updates anydvd was giving out...now it looks like were being force to go towards dvdclone2...if that is the idea that slysoft has ..just say it.....

And by the way don`t get mad....that`s what this form is about ...to correct any misconception one would have...

[linx05]

It's not AnyDVD but the how the DVDs are being manufactured. DVDs are coming out with more and more copy protection on them. Sometimes breaking standards along the way.

DVD Shrink stopped development a long time ago. Meaning it can not cope with the new sometimes 'illegal' copy-protections. Unless James finds a way to get around this, then CloneDVD or FixVTS (http://download.videohelp.com/FixVTS/) is the way I'm afraid.

Before anyone thinks "why can't AnyDVD just get rid of the illegal stuff?" well AnyDVD only scans IFOs. If it scanned VOBs it would take a long time. About as long as it would take to rip the DVD. That would be against what AnyDVD is about, on-the-fly-decrypting. Which is why they implemented the ripper.

So use CloneDVD or first rip the DVD to your hard drive and run it through FixVTS (http://download.videohelp.com/FixVTS/). That way the DVD will be corrected and will be able to load up into DVD Shrink.

p.s. I hope I got everything right here!

[DetroitBaseball]

It's not AnyDVD but the how the DVDs are being manufactured. DVDs are coming out with more and more copy protection on them. Sometimes breaking standards along the way.

DVD Shrink stopped development a long time ago. Meaning it can not cope with the new sometimes 'illegal' copy-protections. Unless James finds a way to get around this, then CloneDVD or FixVTS (http://download.videohelp.com/FixVTS/) is the way I'm afraid.

Before anyone thinks "why can't AnyDVD just get rid of the illegal stuff?" well AnyDVD only scans IFOs. If it scanned VOBs it would take a long time. About as long as it would take to rip the DVD. That would be against what AnyDVD is about, on-the-fly-decrypting. Which is why they implemented the ripper.

So use CloneDVD or first rip the DVD to your hard drive and run it through FixVTS (http://download.videohelp.com/FixVTS/). That way the DVD will be corrected and will be able to load up into DVD Shrink.

p.s. I hope I got everything right here!
Maybe AnyDVD could have an option to scan VOBs though, just in case some people wanted to use it, but so that it wouldn't be mandatory.

[linx05]

DetroitBaseball: Well it would kind of defeat the purpose wouldn't it? James had a reply on this subject which I saw you read: here (http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=6975&postcount=18). James has already said that if there was a way he would try to support DVD Shrink with the latest copy-protections.

If you don't wish to use CloneDVD just run the DVD through FixVTS (http://download.videohelp.com/FixVTS/) after you have ripped the DVD to your hard drive.

[DetroitBaseball]

DetroitBaseball: Well it would kind of defeat the purpose wouldn't it? James had a reply on this subject which I saw you read: here (http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=6975&postcount=18).

If you don't wish to use CloneDVD just run the DVD through FixVTS (http://download.videohelp.com/FixVTS/) after you have ripped the DVD to your hard drive.
Yeah, but atleast you would have the option. I already own CloneDVD, so this isn't a problem for me.

[SlyFox 1]

Patience. :) Everyone makes mistakes and none of us are perfect. They're simply mistaken and that's ok.
Yes SamuriHL, its good to have an open mind and understand that all people are not perfect. I agree.:clap:

[SamuriHL]

Yes SamuriHL, its good to have an open mind and understand that all people are not perfect. I agree.:clap:

Thanks! :) You guys show a lot of patience in dealing with people. Hence, I feel we should do the same if we're going to try to help out.

[rurbank]

Why do we need updates when everthing is working fine ? Just for the sake of updating does not make sense to me. Great Job SlySoft !! Keep up the good work !!:bowdown:

[DetroitBaseball]

Why do we need updates when everthing is working fine ? Just for the sake of updating does not make sense to me. Great Job SlySoft !! Keep up the good work !!:bowdown:
What post are you referring to? Obviously Slysoft wouldn't update AnuDVD unless something was wrong.

[Clams]

Nor will it affect me, but, too many Shrink users are not happy with the state of AnyDVD today. Therefore I felt a quick fix is better than no fix. Would a dedicated CloneDVD library implementation for the AnyDVD ripper be the best solution? Of course!! But that takes time, development, and testing. IOW, it's not going to be out tomorrow. The changes I'm asking for could be done really quickly and would at least give Slysoft more time to implement a proper solution. I'm not saying what I suggested was necessarily a permanent fix to the problem, but, it would do for now.

While I love your idea... I think it's best left to be a user implimented workaround. This just so Slysoft doesn't get saddled with a 3rd party in the mix. I REALLY like the idea of upgrading the AnyDVD Ripper to do a rip that Shrink can handle. Hell, I'd even PAY for that option - and I'd pay for that a hell of a lot faster than I'd pay for CloneDVD2 to use as a giant band-aid. I'd rather wait for a permanent fix for AnyDVD than a cludge. Of course that's easy to say with Nero Recode2 in my stable.

-W

[SamuriHL]

While I love your idea... I think it's best left to be a user implimented workaround. This just so Slysoft doesn't get saddled with a 3rd party in the mix. I REALLY like the idea of upgrading the AnyDVD Ripper to do a rip that Shrink can handle. Hell, I'd even PAY for that option - and I'd pay for that a hell of a lot faster than I'd pay for CloneDVD2 to use as a giant band-aid. I'd rather wait for a permanent fix for AnyDVD than a cludge. Of course that's easy to say with Nero Recode2 in my stable.

-W

While I understand your feelings on this, I've read post after post of people who want the AnyDVD Ripper updated with the latest FixVTS code. This is *ABSOLUTELY NOT* going to happen due to licensing issues. Updating AnyDVD with a CloneDVD library is obviously the best option, but, that will take time to implement. In the meantime, there are people out there who either can't or won't use my script or doing FixVTS manually. Having AnyDVD integrate with FixVTS for now would be a slick option...gets around the licensing problems and allows people who aren't necessarily all that technically inclined who want to use DVD Shrink to be able to do so easily. (IOW, without having to figure out FixVTS...yes, I know it's not hard, but, we want SIMPLICITY here). Believe me when I say many people will appreciate this and it would be VERY simple for James to implement. That would give him time to properly implement a CloneDVD library ripper solution.

[DetroitBaseball]

FixVTS is pretty cool and not hard to use. People can download it themselves.

[Clams]

While I understand your feelings on this, I've read post after post of people who want the AnyDVD Ripper updated with the latest FixVTS code. This is *ABSOLUTELY NOT* going to happen due to licensing issues. Updating AnyDVD with a CloneDVD library is obviously the best option, but, that will take time to implement. In the meantime, there are people out there who either can't or won't use my script or doing FixVTS manually. Having AnyDVD integrate with FixVTS for now would be a slick option...gets around the licensing problems and allows people who aren't necessarily all that technically inclined who want to use DVD Shrink to be able to do so easily. (IOW, without having to figure out FixVTS...yes, I know it's not hard, but, we want SIMPLICITY here). Believe me when I say many people will appreciate this and it would be VERY simple for James to implement. That would give him time to properly implement a CloneDVD library ripper solution.

I also see both sides of this.... ultimately James has the final call after his review of the issues involved.

What's also interesting is the report that DVDShrink 2.3 (an older version) seems immune to the problem. (I've yet to investigate this) IF that is true, then it might make the repair to AnyDVD alone quite easy indeed. I still think it has something to do with an overwhelming number of bogus titles etc.

-W

[SamuriHL]

I also see both sides of this.... ultimately James has the final call after his review of the issues involved.

What's also interesting is the report that DVDShrink 2.3 (an older version) seems immune to the problem. (I've yet to investigate this) IF that is true, then it might make the repair to AnyDVD alone quite easy indeed. I still think it has something to do with an overwhelming number of bogus titles etc.

-W

I've seen that mentioned, as well. Maybe 2.3 isn't as strict about the DVD structure as 3.2. I've yet to try that out. And don't get me wrong, I agree with you and Webslinger about the fact that a CloneDVD library addition to AnyDVD Ripper would be a GREAT thing and is ultimately the BEST solution to this problem. However, I've seen enough posts in the past few months to know that this is a problem that needs a solution sooner rather than later, even if it's a kludge for now. Also, consider the idea that if we had this functionality when Saw3 came out, AnyDVD might have been able to rip it sooner by using the AnyDVD Ripper/FixVTS.exe method. IOW, it gives us another tool in the arsenal against poorly designed DVDs. :) Just something to think about.

[James]

Ah, awesome on the licensing. I knew there was an issue including the newer code base since they changed the license. That's even better then. A stripped down CloneDVD2 library would indeed be nice, but, also a lot more work on your part. This "solution" would work for now and hopefully make the people happy who are having issues.
Okay, I just wanted to implement a "copy to Harddisk and then run FixVTS" ripper. Forget it, it doesn't work. I tried SAW 3 R1 full disc. You get exactly the same error from Shrink as you would get using the AnyDVD ripper (Not enough storage space available to process this command).
Reauthoring (main movie) works, but it already does using the AnyDVD ripper.
So the only reliable method using AnyDVD at the moment is - as I already mentioned - using CloneDVD2 as the ripper. Sorry for the bad news.

[Webslinger]

Okay, I just wanted to implement a "copy to Harddisk and then run FixVTS" ripper. Forget it, it doesn't work. I tried SAW 3 R1 full disc. You get exactly the same error from Shrink as you would get using the AnyDVD ripper (Not enough storage space available to process this command).
Reauthoring (main movie) works, but it already does using the AnyDVD ripper.
So the only reliable method using AnyDVD at the moment is - as I already mentioned - using CloneDVD2 as the ripper. Sorry for the bad news.

Thank you for the information.

Well, hopefully, when you aren't so busy you can get around to implementing a better Anydvd ripper solution.

[SamuriHL]

Okay, I just wanted to implement a "copy to Harddisk and then run FixVTS" ripper. Forget it, it doesn't work. I tried SAW 3 R1 full disc. You get exactly the same error from Shrink as you would get using the AnyDVD ripper (Not enough storage space available to process this command).
Reauthoring (main movie) works, but it already does using the AnyDVD ripper.
So the only reliable method using AnyDVD at the moment is - as I already mentioned - using CloneDVD2 as the ripper. Sorry for the bad news.

James, thanks for trying it. That sucks that it doesn't work. (Well, not for me as I use CloneDVD anyway, but, for those that use DVD Shrink exclusively that bites). Are you considering the idea of adding a CloneDVD library ripper to AnyDVD now?

[James]

James, thanks for trying it. That sucks that it doesn't work. (Well, not for me as I use CloneDVD anyway, but, for those that use DVD Shrink exclusively that bites). Are you considering the idea of adding a CloneDVD library ripper to AnyDVD now?
I'll check, but this could end up being a licensing nightmare (CloneDVD2 is owned by Elaborate Bytes AG, not us).

[SamuriHL]

I'll check, but this could end up being a licensing nightmare (CloneDVD2 is owned by Elaborate Bytes AG, not us).

Ah, damnit, that's right. Ask them with a "pretty please". :D You just need the code that will clean up the disc structure. CloneDVD is still necessary to do the most useful things. But it would remove a large headache for you guys. Be persuasive. :)

[DetroitBaseball]

Ah, damnit, that's right. Ask them with a "pretty please". :D You just need the code that will clean up the disc structure. CloneDVD is still necessary to do the most useful things. But it would remove a large headache for you guys. Be persuasive. :)
Hopefully they let Slysoft incorporate it into AnyDVD, it would be a big help.

[Charlie]

Just buy them out. LOL

[SamuriHL]

Hopefully they let Slysoft incorporate it into AnyDVD, it would be a big help.

I agree, it would be highly beneficial. However, James is right...it's completely up to the legal departments of both companies to come to an agreement. And if it costs Slysoft money, they will not be able to do it. The development time alone will cost Slysoft for very little gain...at least from their business perspective. James will see the benefit, but, will he be able to convince those higher up? They'll rightfully wonder why they should pour resources into a problem that doesn't happen on Slysoft products. James will have to argue about higher sales of AnyDVD to a broader user base. They will argue that users of DVD Shrink are used to free software and from a business perspective it's risky to spend money on a feature that will only benefit users that are accustomed to not spending money on a product. I'm not saying it's a bad idea that shouldn't be pursued. I'm saying it's a hard sell to those that make the decisions at Slysoft.

[DetroitBaseball]

I don't believe Slysoft should have to do this, because it isn't their fault that DVD Shrink isn't updated and can't handle newer DVD structures. They shouldn't stress out over it.

[SamuriHL]

I don't believe Slysoft should have to do this, because it isn't their fault that DVD Shrink isn't updated and can't handle newer DVD structures. They shouldn't stress out over it.

I agree, they should NOT have to do this, but, there is another benefit that my buddy James better be pushing to his superiors. That is support calls. AnyDVD claims to work with all software. When a DVD Shrink user has a problem, they're going to ask for support. Having an updated AnyDVD Ripper function would cut down immensely on support calls. Yet another argument for James to make FOR doing it. :)

[Webslinger]

The development time alone will cost Slysoft for very little gain...at least from their business perspective.

Slysoft could possibly advertise that Anydvd works with Shrink. What some of the Shrink users have posted is true: there are a lot of Shrink users out there. That's a large base of users to be targetting. So, it's possible that Anydvd may gain more sales as a result. When Anydvd ripper was working, it was still faster than using Ripit4me. And as you mentioned, dealing with support for Shrink users should lessen. I think James mentioned somewhere that even he uses Shrink. So, I'm sure he sees the benefit.

[DetroitBaseball]

I agree, they should NOT have to do this, but, there is another benefit that my buddy James better be pushing to his superiors. That is support calls. AnyDVD claims to work with all software. When a DVD Shrink user has a problem, they're going to ask for support. Having an updated AnyDVD Ripper function would cut down immensely on support calls. Yet another argument for James to make FOR doing it. :)
Works with all updated software.

[SamuriHL]

Slysoft could possibly advertise that Anydvd works with Shrink. What some of the Shrink users have posted is true: there are a lot of Shrink users out there. That's a large base of users to be targetting. So, it's possible that Anydvd may gain more sales as a result. When Anydvd ripper was working, it was still faster than using Ripit4me.

What you say is correct, but, I would caution that those Shrink users are using a freeware product. As a result, the business case is risky. *I* believe it's worth doing, but, I don't run a business. And whatever it is we would LIKE Slysoft to do, they must look at the business case and decide if the benefit is worth the cost. I am hoping James can convince them that A> as you said, larger customer base hopefully, and B> less support calls from existing customers makes sense from a business standpoint. We shall see. Then of course there's the issue of what Elby would want in order for Slysoft to embed part of their technology into AnyDVD. This doesn't benefit Elby in any way, so, that'll be a tough sell.

[DetroitBaseball]

It actually hurts Elby because if more people started to use Shrink, less would use (and buy) CloneDVD.

[Webslinger]

It actually hurts Elby because if more people started to use Shrink, less would use (and buy) CloneDVD.

That might be true. I bought Clonedvd2 anyway, because I rarely compress and prefer to retain menus across split discs, which is something Shrink can't do. For the average person, I think Clonedvd2 is a far easier program to use as well. But yeah, Shrink users probably won't buy Clonedvd2. But they might buy Anydvd. And if they learn to like Anydvd, then I think there's a chance they might also take a hard look at Clonedvd2.

I mostly use Clonecd and Verbatim +R DL media now though.

[Bunnyrip2]

I've used all the "Free Stuff" before. When I tried CloneDVD 2, I was sold on it. Bought it, been using it 100% of the time backing up movies. It's easy, a fast ripper, and produces Very High Quality Results! :agree: In fact, I have the full suite of Nero, incl. Recode, I don't use it anymore. CloneDVD 2 is the Best! :bowdown:

[Clams]

That might be true. I bought Clonedvd2 anyway, because I rarely compress and prefer to retain menus across split discs, which is something Shrink can't do. For the average person, I think Clonedvd2 is a far easier program to use as well. But yeah, Shrink users probably won't buy Clonedvd2. But they might buy Anydvd. And if they learn to like Anydvd, then I think there's a chance they might also take a hard look at Clonedvd2.

I mostly use Clonecd and Verbatim +R DL media now though.

And my usage is just the opposite. I find all the menus and stuff ruin a theatrical experience. If the movie is interesting enough, I might watch most of the bonus material ONCE - but it's nothing I'd back up because I really don't care enough about losing it to begin with.

All I really wanna do is get the main-movie onto the HTPC hard drive, and then perhaps transcode (shrink) and burn the main movie to a DVD5. To that end AnyDVD and Shrink, were just FINE for the job, I wanted to do.

-W

[Webslinger]

All I really wanna do is get the main-movie onto the HTPC hard drive, and then perhaps transcode (shrink) and burn the main movie to a DVD5. To that end AnyDVD and Shrink, were just FINE for the job, I wanted to do.

Many users have reported using Anydvd ripper will allow you to import the main movie only into Shrink. You just don't select all the files or the entire folder to import (which is where the problem arises) after Anydvd ripper finishes. You just select the main movie. What I'm stating here is specific to the new Sony stuff.

The biggest problem is getting full disc backups.

[Clams]

Okay, I just wanted to implement a "copy to Harddisk and then run FixVTS" ripper. Forget it, it doesn't work. I tried SAW 3 R1 full disc. You get exactly the same error from Shrink as you would get using the AnyDVD ripper (Not enough storage space available to process this command).
Reauthoring (main movie) works, but it already does using the AnyDVD ripper.
So the only reliable method using AnyDVD at the moment is - as I already mentioned - using CloneDVD2 as the ripper. Sorry for the bad news.

OK gotcha.... But please explain how to use the AnyDVD ripper to get just the main movie??

Also for us techno-buffs exactly WTF did they do to Saw3 that so confounds Shrink?? Is it about an overwhelming number of bogus titles or something?

I also hope that the AnyDVD ripper can be updated to rip clean rips of the whole DVD in the future.

-W

[Clams]

Many users have reported using Anydvd ripper will allow you to import the main movie only into Shrink. You just don't select all the files or the entire folder to import (which is where the problem arises) after Anydvd ripper finishes. You just select the main movie. What I'm stating here is specific to the new Sony stuff.

OK.. now I'm confused... I have an AnyDVD rip of the whole Saw3 disk on my drive here. If I tell Shrink to open that folder , it hangs analyzing the folder.
How do I just import the main movie??

-W

[Webslinger]

I also hope that the AnyDVD ripper can be updated to rip clean rip of the whole DVD in the future.


Well, here's something that's very scary, and it involves Grudge II. This person ripped with Clonedvd2--and Recode couldn't handle the rip. I have no idea what version of Recode this person was using, but it's still troubling:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=1696136&postcount=84

This suggests that even using Clonedvd code might not work for Anydvd ripper. But the person in question may have possibly done something weird that I can't account for.

[Clams]

Well, here's something that's very scary, and it involves Grudge II. This person ripped with Clonedvd2--and Recode couldn't handle the rip. I have no idea what version of Recode this person was using, but it's still troubling:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=1696136&postcount=84

Heh... I just watched Grudge2 tonight. I ripped it with AnyDVD and Recode. Recode did the usual hork for about 30 seconds (not-responding) then it came alive and opened the disk. From there I only took out the main movie though. So does what I said apply at all??

-W

[Webslinger]

OK.. now I'm confused... I have an AnyDVD rip of the whole Saw3 disk on my drive here. If I tell Shrink to open that folder , it hangs analyzing the folder.
How do I just import the main movie??


Well, I haven't used Shrink in ages, so you'll have to bear with me. I think you start Shrink, and then you click "Reauthor". In the "dvd browser" (?? is that what it's called) tab you locate the place on your hard drive that has the video_ts folder. What should happen is the disc layout is shown with the main movie (title 1) listed for you automatically. You then just click and drag the main movie over to the left (and drop it there). And then you would click "backup" or is it "burn"?. I think it's "backup".

Does that work for a movie only backup?

[Webslinger]

Heh... I just watched Grudge2 tonight. I ripped it with AnyDVD and Recode. Recode did the usual hork for about 30 seconds (not-responding) then it came alive and opened the disk. From there I only took out the main movie though. So does what I said apply at all??

-W

:confused: Well, I dunno what to say then. You just directly imported into Recode with anydvd running, right?

from http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=1696017&postcount=68

"I just tried Grudge II, full disc with Recode and the resulting files would not open in any playback software??"

[Clams]

:confused: Well, I dunno what to say then. You just directly imported into Recode with anydvd running, right?

Right.... again, it was a LONG hang before the disk started opening. Could be easily confused as a failure. And I didn't try to rip the whole DVD that way - just the main title.

-W

[Webslinger]

Right.... again, it was a LONG hang before the disk started opening. Could be easily confused as a failure. And I didn't try to rip the whole DVD that way - just the main title.

-W

Ok, thanks. I think MBK was having problems with a full disc backup.

By the way, does http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=8773&postcount=154 work?

[Clams]

Well, I haven't used Shrink in ages, so you'll have to bear with me. I think you start Shrink, and then you click "Reauthor". In the "dvd browser" (?? is that what it's called) tab you locate the place on your hard drive that has the video_ts folder. What should happen is the disc layout is shown with the main movie (title 1) listed for you automatically. You then just click and drag the main movie over to the left (and drop it there). And then you would click "backup" or is it "burn"?. I think it's "backup".

Does that work for a movie only backup?

Yes it worked. I never realized you could click ReAuthor BEOFRE opening the disk or the folder. I usually opened the souce in full - THEN clicked reauthor.
Heh....

-W

[Webslinger]

Yes it worked. I never realized you could click ReAuthor BEOFRE opening the disk or the folder. I usually opened the souce in full - THEN clicked reauthor.
Heh....
-W

OK, thanks for letting me know. This confirms, anyway, that Anydvd ripper will work for the main movie at least with Shrink. But a full disc solution is still needed.

[Clams]

OK, thanks for letting me know. This confirms, anyway, that Anydvd ripper will work for the main movie at least with Shrink. But a full disc solution is still needed.


Also know... that the Eplorer Rip with AnyDD enabled, and the AnyDVD rip (of course with AnyDVD enabled) - are two different critters.

Many more files extant in the Explorer Rip.

-W

[Webslinger]

Also know... that the Eplorer Rip with AnyDD enabled, and the AnyDVD rip (of course with AnyDVD enabled) - are two different critters.

Many more files extant in the Explorer Rip.


Yes, I am well aware of this. Anydvd ripper uses an old version of FixVTS. Using Windows Explorer to drag and drop doesn't.

Anyway, hopefully James can figure something out at some point.

[Clams]

Yes, I am well aware of this. Anydvd ripper uses an old version of FixVTS. Using Windows Explorer to drag and drop doesn't.

Anyway, hopefully James can figure something out at some point.

Does he have to pay to use newer versions of FixVTS? Perhaps an easy solution is just to update the ripper with newest version of FixVTS *only* when AnyDVD is getting updated anyway? The ripper wont be "current", but it'll never be more than a month behind that way iether.

-W

[Webslinger]

Perhaps an easy solution is just to update the ripper with newest version of FixVTS *only* when AnyDVD is getting updated anyway?

Based on this, an updated FixVTS wouldn't be enough to fix the problem:

http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=8469&postcount=132

[Clams]

Based on this, an updated FixVTS wouldn't be enough to fix the problem:

http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=8469&postcount=132

Gotcha.... I'm still betting on the "overwhelming number of "X" problems to be the culprit.

-W

[linx05]

Based on this, an updated FixVTS wouldn't be enough to fix the problem:

http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=8469&postcount=132
I am curious as to why this does not work? Doesn't AnyDVD unreference the bad cells properly so FixVTS can remove them? Or what?

EDIT: According the jdobbs (author of DVD Rebuilder), it seems DVD Rebuilder has a cleaner in its code. Movies such as Grudge 2 etc are cleaned during the process. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=951224#post951224

[James]

I am curious as to why this does not work? Doesn't AnyDVD unreference the bad cells properly so FixVTS can remove them? Or what?

This is (almost?) impossible, as other programs like CloneDVD2 would puke, too.

[linx05]

That's what I thought some decrypters to do the copy-protection. unreferences it so it is easier to clean up afterwards.

[ericvanderhave]

I don't either.
The Dutch Version of Open Season is not to be copied! I'm using AnyDVD 6114 and CloneDVD 2903.

[Webslinger]

The Dutch Version of Open Season is not to be copied! I'm using AnyDVD 6114 and CloneDVD 2903.


Do this please:

http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=330

[James]

The Dutch Version of Open Season is not to be copied! I'm using AnyDVD 6114 and CloneDVD 2903.
Good find. Arccos is not removed at the end of the feature. I'll prepare a beta which fixes this.

[Webslinger]

I sometimes wonder if Sony protection developers will read this thread and attack Anydvd with newer protections based on information we provide publically. :(

[Charlie]

Yea it may be nice to not let visitors see some of the forum content maybe?

[James]

The Dutch Version of Open Season is not to be copied! I'm using AnyDVD 6114 and CloneDVD 2903.

Please try this beta version, it should fix your problem:

http://sandbox.slysoft.com/beta/SetupAnyDVDhd6120.zip

zip password is "takeyourtime" (without the quotes).

You have to reboot after the installation.
Please let me know, if it does fix your problem.

[Webslinger]

Yea it may be nice to not let visitors see some of the forum content maybe?

That's not my decision to make. But the thing is I'm sure the Sony protection devs also own Anydvd.

[James]

Yea it may be nice to not let visitors see some of the forum content maybe?
What good what this do? They could simply register.
The information here isn't that interesting anyway. They have certainly more fun reverse engineering AnyDVD & CloneDVD. :D

[Webslinger]

They have certainly more fun reverse engineering AnyDVD & CloneDVD. :D

Yeah, I think this is definitely happening.

[SamuriHL]

I say let them reverse engineer it. When they do interesting things like Saw3 and Grudge2, it only makes James' life more interesting. :D We know he likes a challenge. LOL!

[TM2-Megatron]

Well, there's one good thing about the new protections... at least they only show up on generic, mass-market pleasing (read: usually bad) trashy Hollywood films. As entertaining as some might find movies like Saw or The Grudge, they certainly aren't good movies.

[SamuriHL]

Well, there's one good thing about the new protections... at least they only show up on generic, mass-market pleasing (read: usually bad) trashy Hollywood films. As entertaining as some might find movies like Saw or The Grudge, they certainly aren't good movies.

I certainly can't argue that. Saw3 was ok. I refuse to watch Grudge 1 or 2. They just seem stupid to me.

[Charlie]

What good what this do? They could simply register.
The information here isn't that interesting anyway. They have certainly more fun reverse engineering AnyDVD & CloneDVD. :D

True there James.

[James]

While I love your idea... I think it's best left to be a user implimented workaround. This just so Slysoft doesn't get saddled with a 3rd party in the mix. I REALLY like the idea of upgrading the AnyDVD Ripper to do a rip that Shrink can handle. Hell, I'd even PAY for that option - and I'd pay for that a hell of a lot faster than I'd pay for CloneDVD2 to use as a giant band-aid. I'd rather wait for a permanent fix for AnyDVD than a cludge. Of course that's easy to say with Nero Recode2 in my stable.

-W
If you would even PAY for that - buy CloneDVD2. It *is* the best "AnyDVD ripper". :D
But for movie only & Shrink the current Ripper is fine. And while everybody says "it is an old version of FixVTS" - I took the liberty to add some small improvements on my own. And most of the changes in newer FixVTS versions are already done by the AnyDVD main program.

[James]

Maybe AnyDVD could have an option to scan VOBs though, just in case some people wanted to use it, but so that it wouldn't be mandatory.
No, you don't want AnyDVD to waste 15 minutes scanning, while CloneDVD would have moved the whole disc to your harddisk in the same time.

[James]

I dont know about you all,I already bouth AnyDVD and ClonedvD and Clone cd along time ago and i sometimes still use DVD shrink,but i have to say that the most of the time i use just AnyDVd with Clone DVd but 2 days ago i was not able to make a copy of open Season for my kids... It is a Pal version region 2 and for some reason it keeps getting stuck on 98 % percent wen ripping the movie.I tried ripping the full dvd nothing tried ripping only the main movie and just one language and also nothing.I tried it with different dvd burners,Plextor S ata 760-Sony DRU 810-Samsung S ata 183 A-Liteon 832 S and id did not work with any of these dvd writers.

So this has nothing to with Shrink or with a faulty original dvd because i was able to copy the full movie with Ripit4me and then FixVTS and then i could use CloneDVD or Shrink 3.2.

This proves that there are stil some movies that Anydvd and CloneDVD cant copy.

Please look here:
http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=8974&postcount=173

You found a bug in AnyDVD which is hopefully fixed in this beta version. Let me know how it works.

[sockeye]

Well, there's one good thing about the new protections... at least they only show up on generic, mass-market pleasing (read: usually bad) trashy Hollywood films. As entertaining as some might find movies like Saw or The Grudge, they certainly aren't good movies.

They do have a big following though, and I suspect they are chosen as a test for their copy protection schemes.

[diddly]

Please look here:
http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=8974&postcount=173

You found a bug in AnyDVD which is hopefully fixed in this beta version. Let me know how it works.


Downloaded and installed the beta, and it solved the probs I was having with Open Season R2. To start with, Clone DVD2 couldn't read past VTS_1_4....Cyclic Redundancy. With the update, sailed through, and burnt perfectly.

Thanks very much for that.:clap: :clap: :clap:

[James]

Downloaded and installed the beta, and it solved the probs I was having with Open Season R2. To start with, Clone DVD2 couldn't read past VTS_1_4....Cyclic Redundancy. With the update, sailed through, and burnt perfectly.

Thanks very much for that.:clap: :clap: :clap:
You're welcome. Thank you for trying it out! :bowdown:

[Clams]

If you would even PAY for that - buy CloneDVD2. It *is* the best "AnyDVD ripper". :D
But for movie only & Shrink the current Ripper is fine. And while everybody says "it is an old version of FixVTS" - I took the liberty to add some small improvements on my own. And most of the changes in newer FixVTS versions are already done by the AnyDVD main program.

Are you saying that ANY FULL DVD ripped to the hard drive with CloneDVD2 will then open in Shrink just like they used to?

Also.... still on the floor is my question: WTF did Sony *do* to caue all this starting with Saw3 - ie WHAT CHANGED?

-W

[Webslinger]

Are you saying that ANY FULL DVD ripped to the hard drive with CloneDVD2 will then open in Shrink just like they used to?


I believe that's the theory, yes.

[ericvanderhave]

Please try this beta version, it should fix your problem:

http://sandbox.slysoft.com/beta/SetupAnyDVDhd6120.zip

zip password is "takeyourtime" (without the quotes).

You have to reboot after the installation.
Please let me know, if it does fix your problem.

It did indeed fix my problem! Thanks! What a great service! :clap:

[James]

Are you saying that ANY FULL DVD ripped to the hard drive with CloneDVD2 will then open in Shrink just like they used to?

Yes, I am telling this for ages now... :doh:


Also.... still on the floor is my question: WTF did Sony *do* to caue all this starting with Saw3 - ie WHAT CHANGED?

Ask the author of Shrink. Ask Sony. I don't know.

[Clams]

No, you don't want AnyDVD to waste 15 minutes scanning, while CloneDVD would have moved the whole disc to your harddisk in the same time.

Yabut..... Don't the IFO's tell the player how to properly play the VOB's?

One would think you could scan the IFO's and then rip the VOB's correctly. It outta take about <2 minutes to scan the IFO's. Then, the user decides if he wants to spend the 15 minutes to rip. I agree that it would take as long to scan the VOB's as to rip them.

-W

[Clams]

Ask the author of Shrink. Ask Sony. I don't know.

Well... considering what you do... it's seems you're the most qualified here to hazzard an edjucated guess, based on you examinations of Saw3.

And it seems to me that your guesses are worth more than anyones here.

-W

[jules48]

Hi there!...I'm new to this forum...I just wanted to let all who work on anydvd are doing a great job of keeping up with updates.Seems I turn around and another is available...ya'll deserve a break!!!!!!;)

[Bunnyrip2]

Quite Frankly I don't see any movies that AnyDVD can't handle right now, So why do they need to update it? Great Job Slysoft!:bowdown:

[Clams]

Quite Frankly I don't see any movies that AnyDVD can't handle right now, So why do they need to update it? Great Job Slysoft!:bowdown:


-W (hands Bunny rip the "Golden Fleece" award. Mbaaaaaaaaa!!!! )

[MMM]

So, for all the movies that are having problems with Shrink right now, if you just keep the movie, is everything fine? You all are just talking about problems with copying the WHOLE DVD, menus and all, right?..that is with AnyDVD and Shrink.

[rocket]

is any one having probs with vob 4 on open season anydvd/clone fails each time i try:confused:

[Webslinger]

is any one having probs with vob 4 on open season anydvd/clone fails each time i try:confused:

use http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=1279

[Giantdwarf]

My Only Question from the start was i have not seen any updates from anydvd for a while now..It came to a point that i would see updates from anydvd almost as often as 3-4 times a week , and i thought to myself "wow it`s great were getting the latest updates !". And ever since the grudge 2 and saw3 came out , i have not seen any updates. And believe me and for any of you who had anydvd for a while now, we are just used to seeing those updates..forget about shrink for now and if it is outdated. The point is Anydvd from the start states it works with all programs..ALL PROGRAMS..And I would never have given the updates a second thought before, if not for the movies mentioned before..(Saw3 , The Grudge2 , Open Season). Like i said before , Congrats on Anydvd-hd, but for us that have anydvd now and for sure will buy Anydvd-hd when comes out...You guys spoiled us with the updates and were used to seeing updates at least once a week..and it`s been more than 2 already?...I Am a proud owner of my copy of anydvd and wil be looking fwd for Anydvd-hd when you release..But as a consumer i believe i have the right to question a product i purchased and to get clarification if I "MIGHT" be mistaken...Thank You

[DetroitBaseball]

AnyDVD should only be updated when needed, and nothing needs to be fixed right now, so no update is needed.

[James]

My Only Question from the start was i have not seen any updates from anydvd for a while now..It came to a point that i would see updates from anydvd almost as often as 3-4 times a week , and i thought to myself "wow it`s great were getting the latest updates !". And ever since the grudge 2 and saw3 came out , i have not seen any updates. And believe me and for any of you who had anydvd for a while now, we are just used to seeing those updates..forget about shrink for now and if it is outdated. The point is Anydvd from the start states it works with all programs..ALL PROGRAMS..And I would never have given the updates a second thought before, if not for the movies mentioned before..(Saw3 , The Grudge2 , Open Season). Like i said before , Congrats on Anydvd-hd, but for us that have anydvd now and for sure will buy Anydvd-hd when comes out...You guys spoiled us with the updates and were used to seeing updates at least once a week..and it`s been more than 2 already?...I Am a proud owner of my copy of anydvd and wil be looking fwd for Anydvd-hd when you release..But as a consumer i believe i have the right to question a product i purchased and to get clarification if I "MIGHT" be mistaken...Thank You
An update for Open Season R2 (multi angle bug fix) has been released as a beta version (6.1.2.1). If you run into a problem, download the beta. (Well, you can even download it even if you don't).
AnyDVD is only updated when a problem has been fixed or a feature added. We don't do "placebo" updates. :)