Playback freezing in places

[rbaron]

Hi All,

I sometimes have freezing of a movie during playback. Is that a software problem or a media problem. I use Slysoft ANY DVD and Clone DVD. I also use good media from Taiyo Yuden.

Any suggestions will be appreciated. I am looking for what others are doing to come up with perfect copies all the time. I also usually only copy the movie and not all the special features.

Thanks and excellent forum.

[Tootsies_mom]

I had this problem, it turned out I had worn my DVD burner out. It kept getting worse and eventually quit recognizing blanks CDs. I purchased a new burner and am back in business! :p

[eeljcobweb]

I also had this problem and I changed my write DVD down to 4X and that helped. I think my DVD +- RW is wearing out Too.:D

[Lone Wolf]

I had this problem when I was making DVD's of airshows I have been to. I tryed changing media, burn speed and anything I could think of. Then one day I install a DVD player on my pc and it told me that DMA was not enabled on my DVD drive and I should be to inprove the play back on the DVD's. So I turned it on. Days later I was buring a DVD and played it back and I had no freezing of a movie during playback. I burned 5 more dvds and all my freezing of a movie during playback problems were gone.

At that point I remembered what DMA was. It stands for "direct memory access" It is info that is accessed from you memory to a HD or DVD drive and does not involve you CPU. It may not be enabled on your drive.

LW

[rbaron]

I also had this problem and I changed my write DVD down to 4X and that helped. I think my DVD +- RW is wearing out Too.:D

I am not sure that I know how to dial down the speed of my DVD writer.??

If I need to replace my DVD what is a good one to buy?

I have an HP machine with Lightscribe. Would I have to buy one from HP?

Thanks.....

[LOOPDOC]

Hi All,

I sometimes have freezing of a movie during playback. Is that a software problem or a media problem. I use Slysoft ANY DVD and Clone DVD. I also use good media from Taiyo Yuden.

Any suggestions will be appreciated. I am looking for what others are doing to come up with perfect copies all the time. I also usually only copy the movie and not all the special features.

Thanks and excellent forum.

I have used ANYDVD and CloneDVD for over two years. Of course, I update the applications immediately when I receive the notice on the screen.

I have never, ever had a failure or disappointing result due to a Slysoft product. Now, I have had plenty of hardware/disk related failures! Here is what I have learned in the school of hard knocks:

1. Always keep the microcode in your burner up to date. The burner must be able to determine the manufacturer/chemistry of the disk to determine what burning algorithm to use. Drive manufacturers add new disk-products to the microcode as the spirit moves them to do so and post those updates on their web-sites.

2. Keeping (1) in mind, it will be obvious that some (cheap/no-name) blanks will never be recognized by your drive. The drive doesn't even know that there is a blank in it.

3. Low quality/no-name disks frequently fail during the burn or skip - usually in the same spots during playback.

These days you can buy name brand blanks (on sale) for around ten cents; they are frequently less expensive that CD-Rs! Do yourself a huge favor and buy brand-name blanks.

4. Do not fail to take note of the -R vs. +R capabilities of your equipment. Most inexpensive DVD players seem less picky about -R disks.

[rbaron]

I have used ANYDVD and CloneDVD for over two years. Of course, I update the applications immediately when I receive the notice on the screen.

I have never, ever had a failure or disappointing result due to the a Slysoft product. Now, I have had plenty of hardware/disk related failures! Here is what I have learned in the school of hard knocks:

1. Always keep the microcode in your burner up to date. The burner must be able to determine the manufacturer/chemistry of the disk to determine what burning algorithm to use. Drive manufacturers add new disk-products to the microcode as the spirit moves them to do so and post those updates on their web-sites.

Where exactly can I find out 1. What type of burner I have, brand, speeds etc.? 2. The version of the microcode for the burner and where to get it from?

Thanks....

[greasemonkey]

Hi i use dvd decrypter this free programme will tell you the firmware and also send you to the firmware update site
it is also very good when used with any dvd for copying and burning
cheers
GM

[rbaron]

Hi i use dvd decrypter this free programme will tell you the firmware and also send you to the firmware update site
it is also very good when used with any dvd for copying and burning
cheers
GM

I have DVDFab Decrypter but can't find where you would find the firmware of my DVD writer.

Is DVDFab Decrypter different from dvd decrypter?

Thanks.............

[clowdy4]

Hi All

It could be the media, but more than likely the write speed. I have had this problem in the past with both. I found when freezing occured mid movie, it was the media. When freezing occured at the beginning of the movie, it was the write speed. Try writing at 4x, then work your way up. If not try different media. And of course shut down all programs (not essencial) running in the background.

[youngsy]

I have used ANYDVD and CloneDVD for over two years. Of course, I update the applications immediately when I receive the notice on the screen.

I have never, ever had a failure or disappointing result due to a Slysoft product. Now, I have had plenty of hardware/disk related failures! Here is what I have learned in the school of hard knocks:

1. Always keep the microcode in your burner up to date. The burner must be able to determine the manufacturer/chemistry of the disk to determine what burning algorithm to use. Drive manufacturers add new disk-products to the microcode as the spirit moves them to do so and post those updates on their web-sites.

2. Keeping (1) in mind, it will be obvious that some (cheap/no-name) blanks will never be recognized by your drive. The drive doesn't even know that there is a blank in it.

3. Low quality/no-name disks frequently fail during the burn or skip - usually in the same spots during playback.

These days you can buy name brand blanks (on sale) for around ten cents; they are frequently less expensive that CD-Rs! Do yourself a huge favor and buy brand-name blanks.

4. Do not fail to take note of the -R vs. +R capabilities of your equipment. Most inexpensive DVD players seem less picky about -R disks.
I have had consistent playback problems on an inexpensive, built-in player when the same discs work fine on a top-of-the line DVD player. Any fix for this in copying the discs?

[sniper]

right click my computer>choose properties>choose the hardware tab>choose device manager>double click dvd'cd rom drives>right click drive you want>choose properties>choose details tab, you will see the name of the drive and fiemware version will be at the end(example; IDE\CDROM_DVD_RW_ND_3500AG--------2.18,were 2.18 being the firmware version, and you now the rest, hope that helps.

[kyrunner]

I had the same problem movie would play great all the way threw till the last couple of chapters,then it would start frezzing.I lowered my burn speed down to 8 x havent had any moore trouble since I did that.here is my set up.PIONEER DVR-111DBK 8.29 buffalo firmware using it as a firewire external,I use verbatim dvd+r.one other thing thats important is making sure your dvd player burns the disc as a dvd-rom it has something to do with bitsetting.

[rbaron]

right click my computer>choose properties>choose the hardware tab>choose device manager>double click dvd'cd rom drives>right click drive you want>choose properties>choose details tab, you will see the name of the drive and fiemware version will be at the end(example; IDE\CDROM_DVD_RW_ND_3500AG--------2.18,were 2.18 being the firmware version, and you now the rest, hope that helps.

Yes, it sort of helped but my device looks like this:

Under: "Device Instance ID."

IDE\CDROMHL-DT-ST_DVDRRW_GWA-4166B_________1/24___\5&2A6B0538&0&0.0.0.0

I did do a google search for any updates to my DVD burner and I did find one. I downloaded it to my desktop, ran it, and followed the directions about inserting a blank CD (or floppy, but who has that anymore) and kept the VD in the drive and restarted. It seemed to do whatever it was suppose to do but I did not know how to recover back to Win XP from the "C: prompt." I tried exit, windows but no luck. So I forced a restart. I went to mt driver version again but it was the same as before I started.

I don't know what else to do.???

[TTNorth]

rbaraon

Is it doing this in your stand alone DVD player? If so just change media and try it again.

I had an LG DVD player and it hated verbatim DVD's. It was doing the same thing as you describe.

[sniper]

try what TTNorth said, more then likely it's your media.

http://www.cdrdvdrmedia.com/
http://www.allmediaoutlet.com/
http://www.supermediastore.com/

Here's some places i get mine, also i use NEC burners in my puters never have a problem.

if you have a controller hook up an old floppy drive

[mustang]

I am not sure that I know how to dial down the speed of my DVD writer.??

If I need to replace my DVD what is a good one to buy?

I have an HP machine with Lightscribe. Would I have to buy one from HP?

Thanks.....

IMO Plextor, Sony or Lite-On. Plextor is my first choice. :agree:

[sigrun]

Hi All,
I sometimes have freezing of a movie during playback. Is that a software problem or a media problem. I use Slysoft ANY DVD and Clone DVD. I also use good media from Taiyo Yuden.
rbaron, it's unlikely your media if it's genuine TY, and it's not CloneDVD2 IME. I have read through your thread and paraphrasing all the info you have supplied so far, it doesn't provide much to go on. There are three "most likely" scenarios which come to mind.

The kind of problem you are experiencing is more usually attributable to the way the ISO has been written to the blank. If the written disc is the problem, then the disc playback will behave the same in all players. If it's the player, then it'll only be in that particular player. So there's the chicken or egg test.

Startiing with the easist to explain first.

The first is simply the probability of a worn out burner (motor or laser) or simply a faulty burner if it's new and causing this problem on burnt titles consistantly. Seldom is it firmware bug related IME, but there's an outside chance it could be, especially if you're using a hacked revision. I had a problem with one of the firmware revisions on my Pioneer once, but its effect was to make the drive behave erratically at one particular burn speed with particular media which probably wasn't correctly entered in its table. You can discover your burner's firmware revision reported at boot or with it's flashiing util.

Read the further considerations before jumping to the conclusion it's a faulty burner.

It might also be a malfunctioningg power supply providing insufficent or intermittent power or inconsistant voltage to the burner when it spools up to write, especially if you're writing at faster speeds. This can be observed from your burner's behaviour if it appears to be having trouble trying to accelerate to speed and fluctuating in maintaining it.

Those are both less likely, but both possible.

Next, IME using pretty much every popular ripping and burning app out there including DVDdecrypter, DVDshrink, Nero Recode 1 & 2, DVDfab decrypter, plus others and of course CloneDVD2, the most common cause of stuttering / intermittent freezing during playback not being a fault of a faulty or flawed playback device per se, is multitasking with your PC when actually burning. It doesn't matter that DMA is enabled and functioning on your DVD-RW drive, when bus contention and demand from other intense HD activity occurs, it will take precedent which insofar as I can determine appears to effect the HD's data delivery rate. If it drops below a satisfactory level for the writer's buffers to maintain adequate data for the burn rate, it can result in a visible pause during playback, possibly because of the way the writer handles the empty buffer and data delay during the write. Some mobo chipsets traffic handing of HD contention are more prone to this than others.

Multi-tasking when ripping to ISO on your HD, with or without compression, won't effect a stutter in the consequent burn IME, but using the PC for anything during the actual burn of ISO to DVD blank during the burn can, including something as simple as an anti-virus or windows auto-update or auto-mail server check running in the background without your awareness or in your absence.

In over 1000 separate titles burnt this year, I've experienced only a very few (2, perhaps 3?) freezing or stuttering results, and they were initially before I discovered that multi-tasking during the burn to blank always runs a risk of inducing them.

Here is what I do for successful results. I always rip to HD first, and I always burn at max rated speed of the media, which these days is usually 16x. I always use quality media, previously TY but with a preference these days for Verbatim and dedicate the PC soley to the task of the burn (to blanks) whilst that actual activity is taking place.

And just to reiterate, when ripping the original disc to ISO on the HD, you can do multitask as much as you want. It won't incite stutter or freezing in the resultant ISO. My results are consistantly flawless.

Hope something in there is of assistance to you. GL. 8)

PS: I use SONY & Pioneer burners.

[aabbccdd]

here a good site to update your firmware

http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_search.php

[jvc]

Hi All,

I sometimes have freezing of a movie during playback. Is that a software problem or a media problem. I use Slysoft ANY DVD and Clone DVD. I also use good media from Taiyo Yuden.

Any suggestions will be appreciated. I am looking for what others are doing to come up with perfect copies all the time. I also usually only copy the movie and not all the special features.

Thanks and excellent forum.


Do you happen to use paper labels stuck onto your dvds? Believe it or not, this will cause the same problems you're experiencing.
Never use paper labels on dvds. They work better on cds.
I've proven to several people, how labels are a very big problem. Even with the applicator thingy, you probably won't get it exactly centered (it may look centered, but it's not), which means the disc will wobble when it spins. When it wobbles, it has read problems with the drive. The picture will pixellate and freeze, and the sound will hang and stutter.

I used to use labels, before I learned better. Friends have come over, and we'll watch a movie. Several times there was playback problems, like I mentioned above. I took the disc out, and saw it had a paper label. I peeled off the label, got the sticky glue off, put the movie back in, and it played flawlessly. This has happened with EVERY disc that had a paper label! EVERY disc! A friend has done the same, and it played perfect for him, after removing the label. Paper labels are a problem........ :agree:
Good luck!

BTW.......
To get the glue off the disc, I'll spray some WD-40 on a rag, and slowly rub the glue off. It takes a little work, but worth it. Then use some warm, soapy water, to wash off the WD-40. Dry with soft rag, and try playing it again. I'd almost bet money, that it'll play ok then.......
Of course, if you don't use paper labels......................nevermind! :D

[SlyRick]

Change the type of media you are using. I've had the same
problem in the past & even though it may be quality media
it may be your writer doesn't like that brand. Ex. I've used Ridata & rarely had a problem, but had freezing problems
with Verbatim. Find a medium that works well with your
writer & stick with it. This is the easiest & cheapest place to start. Other factors can cause freezing problems, as
previous threads mention & another could be a fragmented
hard drive. Also, your home player may not like this brand of disks. Have you tried it in more than one? Does it freeze
when watching on your computer? More details are required
in your post!:o

[SlyRick]

Other potential problems: Insufficient Ram, dirty or damaged original media, DMA not enabled for the writer,
Virus or Spyware problems, incorrect or out of date Contoller, Chipset drivers, Bios, & malfunctioning Burner.:(
I am using 2 different LG burners. models # GSA - 4163B & 4167B using Ridata 8X media with no problems. I also have 2 Gigs of Kingston memory, Intel 3.0E Soc.478, Asus P4P800 Deluxe, ATi X850XT Platinum Graphics, & 1 Terabyte of harddrive space divided X 4 drives. 2 x Sata
Seagate 320's & 2 Ide Maxtors 160 & 250. Soundblaster
Audigy 2 ZS PLatinum & OCZ Modstream 520 watt PS &
Thermaltake CPU fan.

[rbaron]

try what TTNorth said, more then likely it's your media.

http://www.cdrdvdrmedia.com/
http://www.allmediaoutlet.com/
http://www.supermediastore.com/

Here's some places i get mine, also i use NEC burners in my puters never have a problem.

if you have a controller hook up an old floppy drive

What kind of media do you buy and from which vendor?

Thanks

[Mike123]

Always check your media first. Buy a small quantity of another brand and see if you still have the same problem. There can be one or two bad blanks in a batch or the whole batch might be bad. Also, make sure your player is designed to play recorded dvds. The better the player, the better chance the discs will play.

[tinstar]

Like someone else said, paper labels will cause the same thing. If you're using paper, try this: Take a hairdryer and remove the label, clean the DVD then play it. If it plays without freezing, that's your problem. I found this out the hard way.

[aabbccdd]

What kind of media do you buy and from which vendor?

Thanks


Taiyo Yuden DVD dash R and i get them from supermediastore.com

[Burn dog]

I've gotta say there are some good answers to your question here, the firmware updating, the multi-tasking and the disc quality being the most important. Another couple of things, try defragmenting your drive and also just burning the discs to say 4gb as most of the errors happen on the final bit of the disc. If that works try taking them to about 4.2gb but don't worry too much as the quality change will be minimal.

[rbaron]

rbaron, it's unlikely your media if it's genuine TY, and it's not CloneDVD2 IME. I have read through your thread and paraphrasing all the info you have supplied so far, it doesn't provide much to go on. There are three "most likely" scenarios which come to mind.

The kind of problem you are experiencing is more usually attributable to the way the ISO has been written to the blank. If the written disc is the problem, then the disc playback will behave the same in all players. If it's the player, then it'll only be in that particular player. So there's the chicken or egg test.

Startiing with the easist to explain first.

The first is simply the probability of a worn out burner (motor or laser) or simply a faulty burner if it's new and causing this problem on burnt titles consistantly. Seldom is it firmware bug related IME, but there's an outside chance it could be, especially if you're using a hacked revision. I had a problem with one of the firmware revisions on my Pioneer once, but its effect was to make the drive behave erratically at one particular burn speed with particular media which probably wasn't correctly entered in its table. You can discover your burner's firmware revision reported at boot or with it's flashiing util.

Read the further considerations before jumping to the conclusion it's a faulty burner.

It might also be a malfunctioningg power supply providing insufficent or intermittent power or inconsistant voltage to the burner when it spools up to write, especially if you're writing at faster speeds. This can be observed from your burner's behaviour if it appears to be having trouble trying to accelerate to speed and fluctuating in maintaining it.

Those are both less likely, but both possible.

Next, IME using pretty much every popular ripping and burning app out there including DVDdecrypter, DVDshrink, Nero Recode 1 & 2, DVDfab decrypter, plus others and of course CloneDVD2, the most common cause of stuttering / intermittent freezing during playback not being a fault of a faulty or flawed playback device per se, is multitasking with your PC when actually burning. It doesn't matter that DMA is enabled and functioning on your DVD-RW drive, when bus contention and demand from other intense HD activity occurs, it will take precedent which insofar as I can determine appears to effect the HD's data delivery rate. If it drops below a satisfactory level for the writer's buffers to maintain adequate data for the burn rate, it can result in a visible pause during playback, possibly because of the way the writer handles the empty buffer and data delay during the write. Some mobo chipsets traffic handing of HD contention are more prone to this than others.

Multi-tasking when ripping to ISO on your HD, with or without compression, won't effect a stutter in the consequent burn IME, but using the PC for anything during the actual burn of ISO to DVD blank during the burn can, including something as simple as an anti-virus or windows auto-update or auto-mail server check running in the background without your awareness or in your absence.

In over 1000 separate titles burnt this year, I've experienced only a very few (2, perhaps 3?) freezing or stuttering results, and they were initially before I discovered that multi-tasking during the burn to blank always runs a risk of inducing them.

Here is what I do for successful results. I always rip to HD first, and I always burn at max rated speed of the media, which these days is usually 16x. I always use quality media, previously TY but with a preference these days for Verbatim and dedicate the PC soley to the task of the burn (to blanks) whilst that actual activity is taking place.

And just to reiterate, when ripping the original disc to ISO on the HD, you can do multitask as much as you want. It won't incite stutter or freezing in the resultant ISO. My results are consistantly flawless.

Hope something in there is of assistance to you. GL. 8)

PS: I use SONY & Pioneer burners.

What program do you use for the ripping? Also, what program do you use to burn the ripped movie to your dvd's?

Thanks....

[resnick]

This all stopped happening when I stopped applying labels. Sounds so simple, yet since I 've stopped with the labels, the "Digitizing" is gone!

[rbaron]

This all stopped happening when I stopped applying labels. Sounds so simple, yet since I 've stopped with the labels, the "Digitizing" is gone!

When you say "labels" you mean the paper kind yes?

Because I get the printable kind and my ink jet printer prints on the dvd disk.

Thanks........

[DetroitBaseball]

I have used Sony brand and NEVER had a problem with playback or burning on them.

[JimDandy]

Make sure that the "quality" bar does not run into the red, or even the lower yellow, zones. If it does, you may have to split the DVD file into 2 parts or use a double layer DVD, or cut out unwanted previews, bonus features, etc. I've had a couple of bad copies when I didn't follow this rule.

[pcb4]

I am not sure that I know how to dial down the speed of my DVD writer.??

If I need to replace my DVD what is a good one to buy?

I have an HP machine with Lightscribe. Would I have to buy one from HP?

Thanks.....

I have worn out my DVD burner's more than once. I bought, for my three computers, external DVD drives, 16 speed. They are not expensive and connect through USB or Firewire, depending on which you buy. Really handy and when worn out, easy to replace. I bought Sony's but there are cheaper ones on the market.

[aabbccdd]

yeah paper lablels = no good

inkjet = good!!

[pcb4]

Hi All

It could be the media, but more than likely the write speed. I have had this problem in the past with both. I found when freezing occured mid movie, it was the media. When freezing occured at the beginning of the movie, it was the write speed. Try writing at 4x, then work your way up. If not try different media. And of course shut down all programs (not essencial) running in the background.

I agree. Two more suggestions. Use only Verbatim DVD's. The quality is much better and the DVD itself is 40X more scratch resistent and not given to wearing out over time. Secondly, always shut down your background applications. There is a simple program out there called "End it All". It's free, google it. Caution though, when using it select Close all, not Kill all. Kill all is permanent.

[DetroitBaseball]

I found a 100 pack of Verbatim DVD-Rs for $35. Not bad.

[jvc]

Sam's Club sells the 100pk. of printable Verbs for $39.xx, and the regular ones are about $32 (I think).

[redc22]

I had this problem with some disc. Now I use Sony (Japan only) and I had not had any problems with freezing. I also use Imation dvd-R and it works also.

[aabbccdd]

I had this problem with some disc. Now I use Sony (Japan only)

the sonys will code out as Taiyo Yuden



and I had not had any problems with freezing. I also use Imation dvd-R and it works also.


thats some of the worst media you can buy

[MMM]

For Rbaron and all Slysofters ONLY(haha, yea right),

OK. After reading through all this, I have to say that there is a couple simple solutions you all should know about. But first buy some Sony stock like I have. And of course, these are not the only solution as many will tell you, but you will agree it is SIMPLE.

First, buy a SONY DVD player they can be as low as 59 bucks and up to 1300 bones for the highest end players. The key is that most of Sony's DVD players have a trademarked technology called...are you ready for this?......this will solve ALL the playback problems of scratched, warped, off-balanced, and most importantly burned DVD-Rs for stand-alone players...it's called Sony's Precision Drive 3 System. It's as easy as that and it WORKS! TRUST ME.

The second solution is get a better burner. I use my dinky Vaio laptop's Sony DVD writer and I have had no problems playing the DVDs written from it(I've already burned almost 250 DVD on it!). So either buy any Sony writer or one that other, more tech savvy, guys on this forum recommend as a quality writer.

Also, FYI, I have had CD STOMPER paper labels on ALL my DVDs that go back about 13 months, and they still play perfectly. I started off with Memorex DVD-R 16x, then Sony DVD-R 16x(Japan), then Taiyo Yuden DVD-R 4x(shiny top), then TY DVD-R 4x(inkjet printable), then found out the TY(inkjet printable ONLY) deteriorated after only 4 months, then never bought TY again, and now I am using only Sony DVD-R 16x (Taiwan). The oldest Sony DVD-R(Taiwan) I have is about 9-10 months old and I am reporting no problems with glue deteriorating the movie.

Hope this helped.
Aloha

[linx05]

I've read up on the Sony Precision Drive 3 System and it doesn't exactly do everything you said. It sounds as though it has an error correction system just for warped discs. And that's only when it is playing inside the player.

[rbaron]

For Rbaron and all Slysofters ONLY(haha, yea right),

OK. After reading through all this, I have to say that there is a couple simple solutions you all should know about. But first buy some Sony stock like I have. And of course, these are not the only solution as many will tell you, but you will agree it is SIMPLE.

First, buy a SONY DVD player they can be as low as 59 bucks and up to 1300 bones for the highest end players. The key is that most of Sony's DVD players have a trademarked technology called...are you ready for this?......this will solve ALL the playback problems of scratched, warped, off-balanced, and most importantly burned DVD-Rs for stand-alone players...it's called Sony's Precision Drive 3 System. It's as easy as that and it WORKS! TRUST ME.

The second solution is get a better burner. I use my dinky Vaio laptop's Sony DVD writer and I have had no problems playing the DVDs written from it(I've already burned almost 250 DVD on it!). So either buy any Sony writer or one that other, more tech savvy, guys on this forum recommend as a quality writer.

Also, FYI, I have had CD STOMPER paper labels on ALL my DVDs that go back about 13 months, and they still play perfectly. I started off with Memorex DVD-R 16x, then Sony DVD-R 16x(Japan), then Taiyo Yuden DVD-R 4x(shiny top), then TY DVD-R 4x(inkjet printable), then found out the TY(inkjet printable ONLY) deteriorated after only 4 months, then never bought TY again, and now I am using only Sony DVD-R 16x (Taiwan). The oldest Sony DVD-R(Taiwan) I have is about 9-10 months old and I am reporting no problems with glue deteriorating the movie.

Hope this helped.
Aloha

MMM,

Thanks much for the info. I need to update my DVD player because my DVD is also a VHS player. Two in one. I need to update to a single stand alone player.

I am disappointed to learn from you that the TY ink-jet printable DVD's deteriorate. I did not want to hear that. I use a program called Discus (for Mac & PC) You can find it here:

http://www.magicmouse.com/h_discus_detail.html

It can do labels and also ink-jet DVD's. Excellent program and it comes with hundreds of label choices.

Anyway, thanks for the tips and I WILL get a new DVD player.

Thanks,

Rich

[jvc]

I used the CD Stomper system, for paper labels, when I used paper labels. I've also ued Memorex labels. As I've stated before..........after a few months, when I tried to watch those movies again, they were unwatchable, until I removed the labels.

A friend bought a brand new Sony dvd player. He bought two Disney Movies (Lady & the Tramp, and Bambi II), and the Sony wouldn't play them. He took the Sony back and exchanged it for another one (same Sony model). It wouldn't play them either. I made copies of the movies for him, and they played perfectly. I don't have faith in Sony dvd players. Their receivers and tvs are ok though.......... :)

[rbaron]

Well that confused the crap out of me to find out that they are not a good as advertised.

So, what DVD player would all of you on this list buy?

Thanks......

[bjproc]

Well that confused the crap out of me to find out that they are not a good as advertised.

So, what DVD player would all of you on this list buy?

Thanks......

don't buy sony ;)

in the UK here, the cheapest dvd players play just about everything, the more expensive ones give you trouble

[MMM]

Rbaron,
I'm stating what I personally found. I have so many burned DVDs; this Sony player was just what I was looking for. I actually bought it and have it. Just make sure the Sony player says on the box and/or on their website that the player has the Precision Drive 3 system. Some older versions may have the Precision Drive 2 system; I don't know how well that works.

TRUST ME, it plays CORRECTLY burned DVDs FLAWLESSLY. I've had it for approx. 2 months already, and have played more than 20 burned DVDs with all amounts of compression with NO, again NO problems.

I love it!

And, FYI, I don't use the CD Stomper system; I just use their CD labels. They guarantee that they will stick for a long time to come. JVC, your probably gonna go crazy when I tell you this, but I eyeball it when I put the labels on, of course most are off center. They still play though and as long as Sony keeps improving the PD3 system, I'll be good.

I have an Epson R220, which I also recommend getting for labeling purposes, and I use the labeling software that came with it.

RICH, TRUST ME and TRY it, and report back!

Aloha

[rbaron]

MMM,

Alright I will give it a try. It will be a little while before I buy.

Thanks

Rich

P.S. Have a look at Discus for labeling..... works with all Epson R series printers. http://www.magicmouse.com/h_discus_detail.html

[TTNorth]

rbaron...what brand is the 2 in 1 dvd/VHS player you have? Not an LG?


MMM,

Thanks much for the info. I need to update my DVD player because my DVD is also a VHS player. Two in one. I need to update to a single stand alone player.

Anyway, thanks for the tips and I WILL get a new DVD player.



Rich

[rbaron]

No it is not an LG. It is a Sansung player.

Also I found a Sony DVD player at Circuit City. I seems like it is cheap. It does have the Precision Drive 3. Here it is. Can anyone tell me if that is a good replacement for the DVD/VHS player I have now? MMM maybe you can weigh in on this.

Thanks......

Sony DVD Player (DVP-NS55P/S)
SON DVPNS55PS
• Precision Cinema Progressive™
• Precision Drive™ 3 • Multi-format playback
• A/V versatility
Price was: $74.99
You save: -$5.00

[MMM]

That's the player I have, works great:agree: But, if you plan to get a HD TV soon, you might wanna invest in an upconverting player.
Good luck and let us know how it works out.

[mtfresh]

I have used anyDVD and cloneDVD for over two years as well. MY ENTIRE library of backups freeze at 1/2 to 3/4 of the way through!!! Almost EVERY ONE. This totally defeats the purpose and is VERY frustrating. We write at 1X. I'll check for updates to our Sony burner, but since this was a problem two years ago, when drive was new, I'm not holding out hope. I'll look for the other suggestion as well. My daughter is severely autistic. She LOVES to play with DVDs like they are cards and she ALSO LOVES to watch certain movies (I spent over $100.00 on one disc before I discovered backups!). For her, the playback freezing isn't too big a deal, but for us, especially when traveling, it is HUGE. Here at home, when it happens, we just pop in the original or move the DVD to one of my son's Play station 3 or Xbox. Weird that they ALWAYS playback on those. However, hotel rooms won't let you hook up your game systems to their tvs anymore so I'm getting to the point where I can't use my backups so, unless it is for my daughter, WHY BOTHER?? If it plays in a playstation 3, why won't it play anywhere else? URG.

[rbaron]

Wow, 2 years of freezing. I would have really been fed up by now.

From what I have learned is make sure you have the latest versions of the software. Also, you never said what DVD player you are using when they freeze. Since they play on the game box DVD I suspect it is the box you use to watch them.

Good luck and I am sure the more knowledgeable members of this forum wll weigh it on this.

Rich

[mtfresh]

Yes, we have labels on all our backups. We'll see what peeling them off does. We have about 10 DVD players in the house of varying ages. Sony +/- RW RECORDABLE is the best. However, we bought a new one and discs froze so we returned it and bought one off EBAY that was the same as the one we have that plays most consistent. We put it in the camper so we have one that we can take "on the road" and have some reliability. We use only Sony media and our burner is a sony DRU720A. The running in the background thing is a possibility, but the freeze place is consistent across all copies and in all kinds of different players so that would be wierd. I updated the firmware.
We'll see.

[MMM]

Yes, we have labels on all our backups. We'll see what peeling them off does. We have about 10 DVD players in the house of varying ages. Sony +/- RW RECORDABLE is the best. However, we bought a new one and discs froze so we returned it and bought one off EBAY that was the same as the one we have that plays most consistent. We put it in the camper so we have one that we can take "on the road" and have some reliability. We use only Sony media and our burner is a sony DRU720A. The running in the background thing is a possibility, but the freeze place is consistent across all copies and in all kinds of different players so that would be wierd. I updated the firmware.
We'll see.

Try a Sony DVD player w/ a Precision Drive 3 system!

[rbaron]

Ok, I went and bought a new Sony DVD player model #DVP-NS75H. I have watched three movies that I have recently ripped with DVDFab Platinum. All three of the movies have a glitch in them. By glitch I mean that the movie stalls for a brief instant then continues. It does not skip to another part of the movie it just stops for a half a second then continues.

I don't know what else to do.

Thanks to all that responded with their suggestions.

[jvc]

Ok, I went and bought a new Sony DVD player model #DVP-NS75H. I have watched three movies that I have recently ripped with DVDFab Platinum. All three of the movies have a glitch in them. By glitch I mean that the movie stalls for a brief instant then continues. It does not skip to another part of the movie it just stops for a half a second then continues.

I don't know what else to do.

Thanks to all that responded with their suggestions.


That sounds like the layer break..............

[rbaron]

What is a "Layer Break?"

[aabbccdd]

a layer break is what divides a dual layer DVD. are you using dual-layer?.

also make sure your using good blank media like Taiyo Yuden and or Verbatim and don't burn above 8x speed

check and make sure you have the latest firmware update for your drive/burner also;)

[rbaron]

I am using the Taiyo Yuden DVD's.

What I do not know how to do is burn the DVD's at 8x speed. I don't know where I would go to do that.

Can you help me find where I can adjust my speed of the burner?

Thanks in advance........

[aabbccdd]

I am using the Taiyo Yuden DVD's.

What I do not know how to do is burn the DVD's at 8x speed. I don't know where I would go to do that.

Can you help me find where I can adjust my speed of the burner?

Thanks in advance........


rbaron are you using clonedvd 2 + anydvd ? if you are you adjust the burn speed in clonedvd 2. use this guide

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72022

[mzmethie]

I have learned to use good dvd burners (not plextor or lite-on), wait at least 1 hour between burns to let the burner cool (thats why I have 4 burners), always use taiyo yuden premium disks (not the valueline), never use paper labels (and I heard that taiyo yuden printables were not good, this is a false rumor).
I know I have burned at least 600 taiyo yuden printables, no problems. The colors are not as vibrant as a ridata printable but the disk quality is better. Also I use anydvd and nero to burn. Nero is one of the best for burning disks. Always check verify when copying and also check to enable the all player compatibility. I have had very few problems with these guidelines. And I learned the hard way. I did not have anyone giving me advice.

[Webslinger]

I have learned to use good dvd burners (not plextor or lite-on),.

Real Plextor burners are good burners (provided you're using high end quality media).

PX-716A http://cdrlabs.com/reviews/index.php?reviewid=254&page=Conclusion 9/10
Px-760A http://cdrlabs.com/reviews/index.php?reviewid=286&page=Conclusion 9/10
Px-760A http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/Plextor-PX-760A-DVD-Burner-Review (Cdfreaks safe buy award)

Also visit http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=767

[jvc]

I have learned to use good dvd burners (not plextor or lite-on) :disagree: :disagree: :disagree: :disagree:
Your opinion................! What burners are you using, that are so great?
LiteOn burners are also very good burners, unless you happen to get hold of a bad one. That can happen with any brand! A lot of other brands, turn out to be rebadged LiteOns. I use a LiteOn 1633s, and have never had a minute of trouble with it.

[aabbccdd]

Real Plextor burners are good burners (provided you're using high end quality media).

PX-716A http://cdrlabs.com/reviews/index.php?reviewid=254&page=Conclusion 9/10
Px-760A http://cdrlabs.com/reviews/index.php?reviewid=286&page=Conclusion 9/10
Px-760A http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/Plextor-PX-760A-DVD-Burner-Review (Cdfreaks safe buy award)

Also visit http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=767

Websilinger the PX-716A arent on the market anymore you can still get the PX-716SA sata drive and the PX-716AL slot drive these are the best drives on the market 8mb cache. the PX-760A is inferior to PX-716A ,SA and AL IMO

[Webslinger]

Websilinger the PX-716A arent on the market anymore you can still get the PX-716SA sata drive and the PX-716AL slot drive these are the best drives on the market 8mb cache. the 760 is inferior to PX-716A ,SA and AL

I own both the PX-716A and PX-760A. Plextor is no longer producing either drive. Once they're gone, they're gone.
Plextor is also rumoured to no longer produce commercial drives. Supposedly, Plextor will merely be rebadging other
drives in the future (on a commercial level).

[MMM]

I have learned to use good dvd burners (not plextor or lite-on), wait at least 1 hour between burns to let the burner cool (thats why I have 4 burners), always use taiyo yuden premium disks (not the valueline), never use paper labels (and I heard that taiyo yuden printables were not good, this is a false rumor).
I know I have burned at least 600 taiyo yuden printables, no problems. The colors are not as vibrant as a ridata printable but the disk quality is better. Also I use anydvd and nero to burn. Nero is one of the best for burning disks. Always check verify when copying and also check to enable the all player compatibility. I have had very few problems with these guidelines. And I learned the hard way. I did not have anyone giving me advice.

Why not the valueline TYs? Does anyone know what this is about?

[oldjoe]

I have learned to use good dvd burners (not plextor or lite-on), wait at least 1 hour between burns to let the burner cool (thats why I have 4 burners), always use taiyo yuden premium disks (not the valueline), never use paper labels (and I heard that taiyo yuden printables were not good, this is a false rumor).
I know I have burned at least 600 taiyo yuden printables, no problems. The colors are not as vibrant as a ridata printable but the disk quality is better. Also I use anydvd and nero to burn. Nero is one of the best for burning disks. Always check verify when copying and also check to enable the all player compatibility. I have had very few problems with these guidelines. And I learned the hard way. I did not have anyone giving me advice.

Whatever works best for the individual. The PC that one is using will also factor in. I use Verbatim's (16X Silver & Hun-Printable) on Plextors, NEC's and Lite-On's.....burn at 16X and sometimes make as many as 10 burns in a row without stopping. I back a movie up to the HDD while another is burning. Never had an issue with any drive.

[aabbccdd]

MMM

the valueline Taiyo Yuden are fine. i used 1000s of them with no problems

[Webslinger]

MMM

the valueline Taiyo Yuden are fine.

Supposedly, those discs do not meet the standards set for their higher quality/more expensive lines.

[aabbccdd]

well i have used probably 8000 plus valueline Taiyo Yudens with NO problems and have done many many scans with great scores.and no playback problems. i have some 4 plus years old that still playback fine. so if you guys want to spend more money on the premiumline go ahead but not I

[Klickety-Klack]

I have two Sony burners, but generally use one for reading and the other for writing. Since the typical dvd takes 25-30 minutes to run thru clonedvd2, this is the drive getting the most mileage, and I save the files to HDD temporarily. Writing is usually done in 6-8 minutes per disk. So far over 900+ have been run thru the system. Thinking about getting a new Sony drive on the shelf, but with 2 drives I can probably run until one of them fails, then r&w with the survivor.

At that time then buy latest Sony burner again.

Usually I do all the reading as one phase, and then the writing as a separate operation. And, I use 12x writing speed on the 16x burners.

Blanks used are TDK 16X +R, from costco locally, and while they have a printable surface I don't do this.
Each disk contains just a number written in the center area, which references to a database.

This process has provided 100% reliability since I started it.

K

[Webslinger]

At that time then buy latest Sony burner again.


Sony doesn't make its own burners.

Blanks used are TDK 16X +R

TDK doesn't make its own media either.

[Clams]

Sony doesn't make its own burners.

Who does make Sony burners??

-W

[jvc]

Don't know about all of them, but a lot of Sonys are rebadged LiteOns.

[Webslinger]

Who does make Sony burners??
-W

Lite-on, Benq, etc.

[longtimecopier]

I've been burning DVD's for several years. I've used 6 different burners, from 5 different vendors, and media from more than a dozen different manufacturers. All have had episodes with the copy freezing; at least 1 in 10 were defective. A couple of months ago I replaced the 40 wire ribbon cable going to my DVD burner with an 80 wire one. Since then I have burned more than 70 DVD's, not one of which freeze up during playback.

[rbaron]

Where do you get an 80 wire cable??

And it just plugs into the back of the burner yes?

Rich

[MMM]

Hey RBaron,
How's the Precision Drive 3 system working out? Has it solved the freezing problem? It's awesome, right?:agree:

[oldjoe]

Where do you get an 80 wire cable??

And it just plugs into the back of the burner yes?

Rich

Any PC sales and/or repair shop will have 80 wire ribbons. They are also available at online vendors (i.e. Newegg) but the shipping is as much as the cost of the cable. 80 wire cables will have colored connectors.
Blue to MOBO
Black to Primary
Gray to Secondary

[rbaron]

Hey RBaron,
How's the Precision Drive 3 system working out? Has it solved the freezing problem? It's awesome, right?:agree:

No, the problem is still there even after I purchased a new DVD Sony player. I do suspect the burner as not burning correctlly. I need to get a handle on that before I make so many coasters.

Thanks for asking tho'...

[Webslinger]

No, the problem is still there even after I purchased a new DVD Sony player. I do suspect the burner as not burning correctlly. I need to get a handle on that before I make so many coasters.

Thanks for asking tho'...


http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=2516

[MMM]

No, the problem is still there even after I purchased a new DVD Sony player. I do suspect the burner as not burning correctlly. I need to get a handle on that before I make so many coasters.

Thanks for asking tho'...

Hmmm. That's funny. Maybe you unchecked something that wasn't supposed to be unchecked in the options sections in AnyDVD and/or whatever software you are using...including your DVD burner drive because I am not doing anything special. Try removing all those things and reinstalling them. Start over and don't touch anything and then try it.

I had a generic DVD player and a a couple Samsung players(one DVD/VHS combo and another upconverting player) and both had pixellating and then freezing and could not play the entire burned movies. Now I have no problems with the Sony player(w/ the PD3 system). So, I hope you didn't return the player because those problems are still going to be around no matter what you do, pretty much.

Good Luck!

[rbaron]

No, I still have the Sony player. I like it, I really do, it is just that I can't figure out what I am doing which causes my DVD's to skip, freeze. Sometimes I just copy the movie only and it freezes. I copy the entire movie menus and all and it plays perfect. Same burner, same media, same player.

Kind of frustrating.

Later.......