Creating DVD speed.

[sniperscrubb]

Hello,

I have a question, i am trying out the CloneDVD with ANYDVD trial. It is taking at least 60 mins to CREATE a dvd file, is this NORMAL? If not, what am I doing wrong? It seems like it is reading the DVD in real time?

I used to copy and pass copy dvds in 15-20 mins with DVD XPRESS.

[DetroitBaseball]

That's not normal. I can do everything in 30 mins at the most.

[mthmannc]

I am having the same problem.

[DetroitBaseball]

Others have reported this problem too.

[mmdavis]

There are read and write speed options in CloneDVD. What speed do you have those set for?

[mthmannc]

I have changed media, I/O cable and burners (same model just different units) nothing seems to work. I am using Verbatim 8X DVD+R and DVD-R. Both have the same times of 60+ minutes to complete the burn phase. I have altered my burn speed from 4X, 6X, 8X and maximum, and nothing seems to change the speed.

[mmdavis]

Others have reported this problem too.

A lot have been talking specifically about a read speed problem with the Plextor PX760A. Has your burner preferred speed changed and have you verified that your IDE is set for DMA? That affects speed as well.

[mthmannc]

I am using a Maddog MD-16XDVD9-8XE. I have checked everything that has been recommended.

[mmdavis]

Do you have the latest firmware update from October '06? http://www.mdmm.com/optical_storage_drivers.php

The Mad Dog site for some reason doesn't let you see a manual for it so I can't see what options there are pertaining to speed issues.

[sniperscrubb]

There are read and write speed options in CloneDVD. What speed do you have those set for?

Where is the menu to set the speed? I dont see it. Its not under preferences.


THE WRITE SPEED Is 58 mins too. Thats 2 hrs to read and write?

[sniperscrubb]

Ok, I just went out and bought an external IO MAGIC 16x DVD. Now the read speed is 5 mins. My other machines is an HP Pavilion and it is taking over 60 mins to read and write, although the read write speed is 4/8 it is crazy.

[DetroitBaseball]

Maybe the drive is dieing.

[mthmannc]

I updated my firmware and am trying again. I just started the process at 8X and the estimated time for 'creating DVD files' on the top bar was 313 minutes that is not a typo 313 minutes. I canceled the process and went back and did a restart and selected 'maximum' for speed and now the 'creating DVD files' is 28 minutes. I will let you know the time estimated when it begins to write.

[DetroitBaseball]

How old is the drive and how much is it used?

[mthmannc]

It is new and I just started using it last week.

[DetroitBaseball]

I wonder if it is using DMA....

[mmdavis]

From the model you gave it is an external drive, correct?

[mthmannc]

I have DMA enabled on both primary and secondary

[mthmannc]

From the model you gave it is an external drive, correct?


Yes it is external.

[mthmannc]

I updated my firmware and am trying again. I just started the process at 8X and the estimated time for 'creating DVD files' on the top bar was 313 minutes that is not a typo 313 minutes. I canceled the process and went back and did a restart and selected 'maximum' for speed and now the 'creating DVD files' is 28 minutes. I will let you know the time estimated when it begins to write.

It just started the 'write' phase. It began with a 28 minute write time but at the 2% mark the write time jumped to 53 minutes and at the 4% it jumped to 71 minutes.

[mthmannc]

The total write time was 83 minutes with a total processing time of 1hour 49 minutes as stated by CloneDVD prior to ejecting the disc. It was set on DVD5, Speed 'maximum'. All the DMA is selected and the ubit is advertised to booktype defaulted to DVD-ROM. I have tried at all copy speeds. I will try the next time at 6X since the disc is 8X and so is the unit.

[mthmannc]

Am trying it again now at 6X speed and 2% I have an estimated write time of 53 minutes, 3% it is up to 67 minutes, 4% 71 minutes.

[DetroitBaseball]

Obviously the speed doesn't matter. Did you try it with a different DVD though?

[mthmannc]

I have burned three different DVDs today and used two DVD+Rs and one DVD-R. I am really baffled!

[mmdavis]

When you were setting the speeds, was that in CloneDVD or is there a speed selection on your drive? I looked through the documentation and didn't see a speed selection though there must be somewhere, probably in the software that came with it. It came with a Nero suite, is there a process in Nero that may be running at the same time, although I would think that would give you errors. Plextor has a program that comes with their drives called Plextor Tools that controls speed settings. Is there something comparable with the Mad Dog or Nero? You should have speed setting with the software (CloneDVD) and hardware (Mad Dog or Nero). The hardware can override the software setting and yours may be doing the same thing.

[mthmannc]

The only software required for Maddog is the drivers in case it won't automatically install. There is a Nero Suite but there is nothing in there to select speed I checked yesterday. According to Maddog everything is supposed to be automatic.

[mmdavis]

I am assuming this is using a USB port not Firewire. Have you tried another port to see if something may be running at the same time and possibly slowing it down?

[mthmannc]

I am using USB and will try a different port next time I burn and let you know if there is any change.

[Webslinger]

I am using USB and will try a different port next time I burn and let you know if there is any change.

Ohhh. Is you're computer using USB 2.0 ports--or older ones?

[mthmannc]

USB 2.0 ports are what I have

[Webslinger]

USB 2.0 ports are what I have

USB burners can be really horrible to troubleshoot. I don't have a lot of experience with them. Hopefully, someone can help you out.

I think Clonedvd's burn speed though is influenced by the writing strategy dictated by the firmware. That is, if you burner's firmware believes a certain blank disc type should be written slowly, the option to write faster in Clonedvd might not work (but I could be wrong).

[mthmannc]

What type of burner would you recommend?

[Webslinger]

What type of burner would you recommend?

Internal, non-usb drives

visit http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=5233&postcount=1

[mmdavis]

Check the threads in this section. http://forum.slysoft.com/forumdisplay.php?f=25

Also, you may try to use a DVD-Rom or CDRW/DVD-ROM to read the disc and put it on as fast as you can, then use the burner to write. The combination of burner, speed and media sometimes takes some testing. Better to burn a little slower and have a good back-up, than faster and make coasters. But the read time should be quick.

[Rico]

Sniperscrubb - You need to insure your burnewr is using DMA not pio mode.

Go to: device mgr > ide ata/atapi controller > secondary ide channel r. click > properties > advanced settings "if it says pio mode this will explain your long burns"

Good Luck
Rico

[DetroitBaseball]

Sniperscrubb - You need to insure your burnewr is using DMA not pio mode.

Go to: device mgr > ide ata/atapi controller > secondary ide channel r. click > properties > advanced settings "if it says pio mode this will explain your long burns"

Good Luck
Rico
I believe the poster already said it was in DMA mode.

[mmdavis]

Make sure that your burner is not in a hub. It needs to have a port all its own. Putting printers, scanners, mice, keyboard, etc in a hub is OK, but any kind of drive needs to be the only thing on the port. If you have an external drive check it also. I have an external drive and when I installed CloneDVD it used that drive for its Temp file. That is OK as long as it is on a port by itself. And USB is going to be slower than IDE or SATA.

[mthmannc]

I am going to install an internal burner and see what it does for me. It is another Maddog 8X but will be IDE.

[Webslinger]

I am going to install an internal burner and see what it does for me. It is another Maddog 8X but will be IDE.

Don't make it share the same cable as your reader.

8x is not that speedy, by the way.

[mthmannc]

Actually the reader is 16X but the media is 8X

[Webslinger]

Actually the reader is 16X but the media is 8X

Try some 16x rated media then. Try burning it at 12x.

[mthmannc]

I will try that next