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DetroitBaseball
24th February 2007, 23:18
It looks like I am going to be buying a new burner, so I would like some suggestions. I need a good, reliable drive that won't dry up my wallet.
Webslinger
24th February 2007, 23:25
It looks like I am going to be buying a new burner, so I would like some suggestions. I need a good, reliable drive that won't dry up my wallet.

If you can find them: Benq 1650/1655

http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=5233&postcount=1
DetroitBaseball
24th February 2007, 23:31
I am seriously looking at this one. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827106050

Any suggestions about it?
Webslinger
24th February 2007, 23:32
I am seriously looking at this one. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827106050

Any suggestions about it?

I would avoid it (mostly due to potential firmware issues with Anydvd).
DetroitBaseball
24th February 2007, 23:34
I would avoid it.
Why? It sounded good to me.
Webslinger
24th February 2007, 23:36
Why? It sounded good to me.

Some people apparently claim to be having problems with the newer Lite-on burners and Anydvd (and it's not just that thread):

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=208522
DetroitBaseball
24th February 2007, 23:39
Some people apparently claim to be having problems with the newer Lite-on burners and Anydvd (and it's not just that thread):

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=208522
Oh yeah, I remember that thread. Well I am unsure of what to do Web, I can't find those Benq ones. I just want a quality, reliable drive.
Webslinger
24th February 2007, 23:49
Oh yeah, I remember that thread. Well I am unsure of what to do Web, I can't find those Benq ones. I just want a quality, reliable drive.

How about Pioneer DVR-111 ?

Plextor PX-760 (pricey)?
DetroitBaseball
24th February 2007, 23:51
How about Pioneer DVR-111 ?

Plextor PX-760 (pricey)?
http://www.pricegrabber.com/p__Pioneer_DVR_111D_Dual_Layer_DVD_RW_Writer_Black ,__17849090/search=Pioneer%252BDVR-111

What about this though Web http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827151133 ?
Webslinger
24th February 2007, 23:53
http://www.pricegrabber.com/p__Pioneer_DVR_111D_Dual_Layer_DVD_RW_Writer_Black ,__17849090/search=Pioneer%252BDVR-111

What about this though Web http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827151133 ?

New Egg has the Pioneer (oh, wait they're out of stock)

I don't want to start turning you away from other brands, because eventually I'm going to start getting flamed by fans of those brands.
DetroitBaseball
24th February 2007, 23:57
New Egg has the Pioneer (oh, wait they're out of stock)

I don't want to start turning you away from other brands, because eventually I'm going to start getting flamed by fans of those brands.
This one looks good then. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827129007

Or I could get this one. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827129001

The first one is in-stock. And it is 18x instead of 16x.
Webslinger
25th February 2007, 00:00
The problem is I haven't seen any reviews of the 112 yet--and that second link is showing out of stock. :(

If the second link were in-stock, I would tell you to buy it.
DetroitBaseball
25th February 2007, 00:02
The problem is I haven't seen any reviews of the 112 yet--and that second link is showing out of stock. :(

If the second link were in-stock, I would tell you to buy it.
A little more background. I have dual drives. I have a Sony DVD-ROM, which will get replaced, and a Philips DVD+-RW which will stay. So if I get this DVD+-RW drive, I'll have dual DVD burners, sweet! I'm just waiting to see which one of those I should buy.
Webslinger
25th February 2007, 00:04
A little more background. I have dual drives. I have a Sony DVD-ROM, which will get replaced, and a Philips DVD+-RW which will stay. So if I get this DVD+-RW drive, I'll have dual DVD burners, sweet! I'm just waiting to see which one of those I should buy.

The Pioneer DVR-111 is a safe bet if you can find one.
DetroitBaseball
25th February 2007, 00:06
The Pioneer DVR-111 is a safe bet if you can find one.
Here's an article on CD Freaks for the 112D. http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=201109
Webslinger
25th February 2007, 00:07
The Pioneer DVR-111 is a safe bet if you can find one.


The Plextor PX-760A is pricey, but comes with a $30 rebate, if you buy before Feb. 28th (I have one):

http://www.plextorshop.com/products/pdfs/rebates/PX-760A/Rebate_$30_PX-760A_02.28.07.pdf
Webslinger
25th February 2007, 00:09
Here's an article on CD Freaks for the 112D. http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=201109

Personally, I would wait for cdfreaks, cdrlabs, or cdrinfo to post an official review first. Up to you
DetroitBaseball
25th February 2007, 00:09
The Plextor PX-760A is pricey, but comes with a $30 rebate, if you buy before Feb. 28th (I have one):

http://www.plextorshop.com/products/pdfs/rebates/PX-760A/Rebate_$30_PX-760A_02.28.07.pdf
Plextor costs too much. There's even a firmware upgrade available for the Pioneer DVR-112D too. I'll probably go that way if the DVR-111 doesn't come in.
Webslinger
25th February 2007, 00:10
Plextor costs too much. There's even a firmware upgrade available for the Pioneer DVR-112D too. I'll probably go that way if the DVR-111 doesn't come in.

OK, up to you, of course
TPLAT
25th February 2007, 01:13
The CompUSA near my house has a Micro Advantage or something like that dvd burners for $50.00 that`s a rebadged BenQ DW1650.
mmdavis
25th February 2007, 01:22
I don't know how much you are willing to pay, but the price isn't bad and it has a rebate. This is a Plextor 760-A. I bought one from them.
http://shop3.outpost.com/product/4810910;jsessionid=HdMTbIGRUdbesgbFShR86g**.node1? site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
DetroitBaseball
25th February 2007, 01:25
I don't know how much you are willing to pay, but the price isn't bad and it has a rebate. This is a Plextor 760-A. I bought one from them.
http://shop3.outpost.com/product/4810910;jsessionid=HdMTbIGRUdbesgbFShR86g**.node1? site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
The Pioneer DVR drives are 1/3 of the price and are probably equivalent in performance, that is a waste of money.
TPLAT
25th February 2007, 01:33
I don't know how much you are willing to pay, but the price isn't bad and it has a rebate. This is a Plextor 760-A. I bought one from them.
http://shop3.outpost.com/product/4810910;jsessionid=HdMTbIGRUdbesgbFShR86g**.node1? site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

Even with a rebate I still wouldnt buy another Plextor drive, I think there quality has been going down and now with them cutting back production by 90% overseas and for the first time there offering rebates only goes to show that they realise they are in trouble not only sales wise but quality wise. My first 760A drive quit recognising any type of disc after 2 months and the three replacement 760A drives I got from Plextor all had DVD+RW media problems. I know others who had the same problems with DVD+RW media and the 760A and I also know others who had no problems what so ever with DVD+RW media on a 760A. I even went as far as installing all three replacement 760A drives in 4 different pc`s with the same results.
Webslinger
25th February 2007, 02:28
and for the first time there offering rebates

Plextor has offered rebates on all their drives at some point going back to their first burnproof cd-r drive.

My first 760A drive quit recognising any type of disc after 2 months and the three replacement 760A drives I got from Plextor all had DVD+RW media problems. I know others who had the same problems with DVD+RW media and the 760A

While I appreciate you experienced issues, the latest TLAs (which I believe are being sold out now) seem fine. I'm not experiencing any issues with any media.

I would agree, however, that Plextor drive quality is not what it use to be (that said, I still find them to better than average, provided you wait for older tla revisions).
TPLAT
25th February 2007, 02:44
Plextor has offered rebates on all their drives at some point going back to their first burnproof cd-r drive.



While I appreciate you experienced issues, the latest TLAs (which I believe are being sold out now) seem fine. I'm not experiencing any issues with any media.

I would agree, however, that Plextor drive quality is not what it use to be (that said, I still find them to better than average, provided you wait for older tla revisions).

This is the first time I saw a rebate offered on a Plextor drive, if they were offered in the past I wasnt aware of it so on that I`ll take your word for it, as for media problems I only had problems when trying to use DVD+RW media, if the disc had any light scratches it would either not write to it and if it did write to the lightly scratched DVD+RW disc it would make it unreadable, I also had one replacement 760A that would even wreck a brand new DVD+RW disc. The first 760A I had had absolutely no problems with burning to any kind of media for the few months that it did work. The same DVD+RW discs that the 760A wouldnt burn to would burn fine in any other drive I had, so from the experience I had I will never buy another Plextor again.
Webslinger
25th February 2007, 03:00
I had, so from the experience I had I will never buy another Plextor again.

I certainly don't blame you. I doubt Plextor will be making any of its own drives in the near future either.

But the rebates have always been offered.
zebadee
25th February 2007, 07:12
Hi :)
Just to stir things up. I am not a Lite-On fan. However I do have a Lite-On SHW-16H5S & LH-20A1P.
The 16H5S is an excellent scanner & so so writer.
The 20A1P* however is currently the fastest & most consistant writer I have. Quality being more than exceptable. Surprised therefore to find as a reader/scanner it is ****. (N.B. This is a replacement as the first were total **** 1 didn't write to a full disc, the other unable to read any disc at all.)
If wanting to go for a banker though either the Pioneer 111/112 are excellent. Along with LG H22/42(L/N).
*The f/w issue hasn't been an issue for me at all. I suspect that it's quality control being *** that has resulted in so many problems with this model. It's learned media is suspect too. Making you wonder if there's a problem with the EEPROM. So all in a very mixed result is got from this drive.
N.N.B. I should add that quality wise the Lite-On is still last in quality, but only just. But at least 30 secs quicker than any of my other drives.
A couple of scans:

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/4637/sshot48um1.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8409/sshot54gq6.png (http://imageshack.us)
trussme
25th February 2007, 07:44
http://www.meritline.com/pioneer-dvr-112d-18x-dvd-10x-dl-dvd-drive.html

they got both the 111 &112, for $33...only diff I can see, is the 112 does DLs at 10X (111 is rated 8X)...friend just purchased the 112 & has much praise for it. He has had 6 burners to date...says the 112 is the best so far (for the money)....done 50+ burns w/noooooo problems.
Webslinger
25th February 2007, 13:06
I suspect that it's quality control being *** that has resulted in so many problems with this model.

N.N.B. I should add that quality wise the Lite-On is still last in quality



Actually, this echoes my thoughts entirely, but, uh, you obviously don't mind facing the wrath of Lite-on fans (so, I think I'll go back to hiding from them . . .) It's easier to post links sometimes and be moderately vague than to face flames. ;)
wombraider44
13th July 2007, 03:11
This one looks good then. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827129007

Or I could get this one. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827129001

The first one is in-stock. And it is 18x instead of 16x.

AREN'T THESE TWO LINKS FOR THE THE EXACT SAME THING?

PLEASE TELL ME THE DIFFERENCE