Blu-Ray to SD DVD

[Hanko44]

Maybe the answer is already here somewhere - but my searches
did not find it.

Can I rip a Blu-Ray and then be able to write it out as a SD DVD
for playing and viewing on legacy DVD and non-HD TVs?

[Adbear]

No, you'd have to take the video and audio stream then use software to convert it to mpeg2 for DVD

[Hanko44]

No, you'd have to take the video and audio stream then use software to convert it to mpeg2 for DVD

I figured I would need to do something like that.

SamuriHL has published a lot of great step-by-step procedures before.

I thought maybe there was one of those cook books around :clap:

[fast eddie]

No matter what route you go or both std def or hi def you need to get a HDTV.

1. playing std def DVD on a upscale DVD player output at 1080p to your HDTV by HDMI
or
2. playing hi def Blu-ray on your Blu-ray player output at 1080p to your
HDTV by HDMI.


Now you can take your std def mpeg2 DVD and convert them to Blu-ray and play them on you Blu-ray player to your HDTV.
:agree:

[Hanko44]

No matter what route you go or both std def or hi def you need to get a HDTV.

1. playing std def DVD on a upscale DVD player output at 1080p to your HDTV by HDMI
or
2. playing hi def Blu-ray on your Blu-ray player output at 1080p to your
HDTV by HDMI.


Now you can take your std def mpeg2 DVD and convert them to Blu-ray and play them on you Blu-ray player to your HDTV.
:agree:

A standard def DVD is 480i

Blu-Ray is 1080p.

If I rip a Blu-Ray to my HD with AnyDVDHD - I have a 1080p
file.

It would be logical to use some kind of software to down-convert
the 1080p to 480i. Correct?

[Hanko44]

Hanko44

Why go all the trouble convert HD to SD? Why don't u get a DVD disc from a first place?

but if you want to enjoy the HD with your HDTV then

Get a HD media player such as limHD-310s, TVIX M6500A
These players can even
- Play M2TS files (ripped bluray files), AVI, TS, TP, TRP, MKV, MOV, WMV, ISO, VOB, MP4, ASF, MPG
- Decode DTS-HD MA to DTS-core - good for whom has the 5.1 sound
- 1080p via HDMI and lots more
- Network-able for streaming AV
- Consume less then 30W of power
- Hardware video encode engine built-in
You can get those in PC MALL, Meritline, DATOptic.com ... or other resellers
You don't have to spend 1000's of dollar to play 1080p

Just rip BR, copy or stream the biggest file to these player... enjoy.

Of course if you want to compress down to a DVD or DL DVD you can do that to but it takes a long time with Core2 Dou 2.24Gh

DATOptic offers software encoder with these players

I already own (3) Blu-Ray Players and I have three HD Theaters.

I also have multiple houses. Someday - I'll get more Blu-Ray
players for the other house. For now - I use SD DVD there
with an up-converting DVD player to 1080i.

[Adbear]

Hanko44

Why go all the trouble convert HD to SD? Why don't u get a DVD disc from a first place?

but if you want to enjoy the HD with your HDTV then

Get a HD media player such as limHD-310s, TVIX M6500A
These players can even
- Play M2TS files (ripped bluray files), AVI, TS, TP, TRP, MKV, MOV, WMV, ISO, VOB, MP4, ASF, MPG
- Decode DTS-HD MA to DTS-core - good for whom has the 5.1 sound
- 1080p via HDMI and lots more
- Network-able for streaming AV
- Consume less then 30W of power
- Hardware video encode engine built-in
You can get those in PC MALL, Meritline, DATOptic.com ... or other resellers
You don't have to spend 1000's of dollar to play 1080p

Just rip BR, copy or stream the biggest file to these player... enjoy.

Of course if you want to compress down to a DVD or DL DVD you can do that to but it takes a long time with Core2 Dou 2.24Gh

DATOptic offers software encoder with these playersWhy is it that your solution for everything is to buy one of these boxes? To most of us they are a complete waste of time and money

[Webslinger]

Why is it that your solution for everything is to buy one of these boxes? To most of us they are a complete waste of time and money

He's been banned for spamming. I'm not sure why I didn't notice earlier.

[Tox]

why not just taking the dvd and make a copy of the dvd instead of bothering with down-conversation? if you don't have it you are allowed to rent it for the purpose. 3 bucks or less and you save a lot of time and nerves.

btw what is an sd dvd? :p

[Hanko44]

why not just taking the dvd and make a copy of the dvd instead of bothering with down-conversation?

btw what is an sd dvd? :p

SD - Standard Definition versus HD - High Definition.

I have one of those players also - now OBSOLETE.

[Bigrick]

SD - Standard Definition versus HD - High Definition.

I have one of those players also - now OBSOLETE.


i believe TOX was being sarcastic when he asked what SD DVD was

[Hanko44]

i believe TOX was being sarcastic when he asked what SD DVD was

NO PROBLEM :clap:

[JimSa]

Try ConvertXtoDVD3. It might be what you're looking for.

[PrincipalityFusion]

How about trying the actual standard dvd and save yourself some time and money:o

[mojojojo1972]

Well the guy like myslef might be renting Bluray for £1.65 a film and enjoying it in all its glory and then copying it to standard def to save even more money as blank Blu-ray for me is an easy £7 quid a pop.The way things are I get a copy for about £2 quid all in and I rent 4 films per months so £8 quid compared to £35 quid is alot of money,I dont have a huge Harddrive,So in response to all the why bother getting blu-ray just get the dvd all comes down to getting to watch it in its glory even just once:)And then still owning a good quality copy as back up


The processs is not at all that long maybe 2 hours to convert and put to blank dvd-r etc

I use anydvdhd then tsmuxer then roxio to convert and burn to disc


I guess the £1.65 is around $3

[Tox]

i believe TOX was being sarcastic when he asked what SD DVD wasI was. there IS NO sd dvd! It's a common mistake to believe the "hd" in "hd dvd" stands for high definition. but it stands for high density because the term refers to how much data you can put on it and NOT that you can put high definition video on it. always remember hd dvd is a general purpose optical medium you can put ANY data you wish on it. you wouldn't neither call vhs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vhs) old-vhs or something just because of the introduction of s-vhs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-VHS).

@PrincipalityFusion yeah, that's exactly what i said ;)

[Hanko44]

How about trying the actual standard dvd and save yourself some time and money:o

I AGREE renting the Movie might be the least amount of work.

For my OWNED Library of Blu-Ray movies - I thought it would
be nice to have a SD-DVD version of it at my 2nd house where
I don't have a Blu-Ray Player.

And yes the other easier alternative is just to buy my 4th
Blu-Ray player for the 2nd house.

[Hanko44]

The processs is not at all that long maybe 2 hours to convert and put to blank dvd-r etc

I use anydvdhd then tsmuxer then roxio to convert and burn to disc


I guess the £1.65 is around $3

You are saying use AnyDVD to rip the Blu-Ray to HD.

I understand tsmuxer will convert the audio?

And then use Roxio to convert the video and burn to an SD-DVD?

[Hawk]

A standard def DVD is 480i

Blu-Ray is 1080p.

If I rip a Blu-Ray to my HD with AnyDVDHD - I have a 1080p
file.

It would be logical to use some kind of software to down-convert
the 1080p to 480i. Correct?

Just a correction standard def DVD is 480p not 480i

[Adbear]

Just a correction standard def DVD is 480p not 480iit can be either p or i depending on how you encode the mpeg file

[Hawk]

My Bad then, then in that case majority might be 480p

[Hanko44]

My Bad then, then in that case majority might be 480p

I think we can all agree resolution is 720x480 either i or p :clap:

[Adbear]

I think we can all agree resolution is 720x480 either i or p :clap:
Unless it's 720x576

[vamsilak]

sowwy to butt in

i do have advise and question
convertxdvd does the excellent job

my question is is there any sifty that can converts 1080p bluray movie into 720p bluray movie
i know there's ripbott
it takes forever on quadcore is there any other softwares!!!!pleae help

[Adbear]

I would expect it to take many hours to convert depending on what format it's converting into, Mpeg2 would be quickest but would need a higher bitrate, and therefore a larger file at the end of encoding to get the same quality as H264,. For a decent 2 pass h264 encode I'd expect it to take 10-20 hours

[bwana]

so can someone point me in the right direction-- what is the best way to do the conversion?

[mojojojo1972]

prism convertor is another good program to use to convert to mpeg which i use as well,It also downloads any codec on the fly that you need

[bwana]

neither of those apps will convert the m2ts files in the stream folder of "sex in the city"

interestingly i found an app called 'blu-ray to mpg converter' at this website

< link removed >

that is said to be publish by slysoft and when you download it you get a file named 'SetupAnyDVD_50915'

however, no such file exists on the actual slysoft site. what's up with that?!

[Tox]

seems fraudulent to me. they even call the blu-ray disc "Blu-ray DVD".

[Conundrum]

so can someone point me in the right direction-- what is the best way to do the conversion?
I'm curious about this too. I would like to take a blu-ray and make a high quality DVD so I can take it with me when traveling.

[DrinkLyeAndDie]

I have no idea what that software is. I can only speculate that the website screwed up in listing software. The price is the price of AnyDVD HD and they list Slysoft as the developer and the installer appears to be AnyDVD.

From what I saw I wouldn't recommend downloading from that site. The only place to download AnyDVD HD is from Slysoft's servers. As for the supposed software for conversion... I have no idea what it is. Btw, HD-DVD & AACS support came first in AnyDVD HD 6.1.2.0 beta which makes that filename make even less sense. Offhand I'm not sure what version BD support was added in.

Edit: I checked out the file just b/c I was curious. I extracted the installer and it is AnyDVD HD 6.4.2.0 which was released on May 2, 2008.

[mojojojo1972]

I'm curious about this too. I would like to take a blu-ray and make a high quality DVD so I can take it with me when traveling.



Prism convertor does very much work with m2ts it might say format uncompatable but believe me it converts to mpeg2 a treat better than most that i have tried so much so that i purchased the full program just to convert to mpeg2

Start up Anydvdhd and rip to hd

Tsmuxer to extract the streams you want and clip the credits of the end

Prism convertor to convert to mpeg2 which will play in any standalone dvd player..You set the settings at 720x576..9k bitrate for both min/max and what ever audio you want it at as well and you finish up with a quality dvd at anything from 3gb to 4gb in size

In all the process takes from start to finish around 3 to 4 hours depending on your set up

[Adbear]

If you always set the min and max to 9k (which I'm assuming is 9mb/s) then it won't always fit on a single layer disc as at those settings, setting the max to 9 would be ok, but if you also set the min to the same then that means you would be looking at an average of 9 which gets you around 1 hour with an ac3 track at 448kbps

[SamuriHL]

The prism website doesn't list what audio formats it supports. Like with convertxtodvd I suspect it'll not work on HD audio formats. That means you also have to extract a core audio when using TSMuxer if I'm not mistaken. All in all, the whole process is a royal PITA. Hopefully someday CloneDVD Mobile will start supporting Blu-ray conversions to whatever format you want. That'd be ideal. Still not an easy thing to do, but, imagine using that to convert to a high res mpeg2 file with ac3 or dts audio and then being able to master your DVD with whatever you want. We'll get there someday, I'm sure. For now, this process really does suck.

[bwana]

Prism convertor does very much work with m2ts it might say format uncompatable but believe me it converts to mpeg2 a treat better than most that i have tried so much so that i purchased the full program just to convert to mpeg2

Start up Anydvdhd and rip to hd

Tsmuxer to extract the streams you want and clip the credits of the end

Prism convertor to convert to mpeg2 which will play in any standalone dvd player..You set the settings at 720x576..9k bitrate for both min/max and what ever audio you want it at as well and you finish up with a quality dvd at anything from 3gb to 4gb in size


a few questions for the noobie
1)why is tsmuxer needed if i am staying in ntsc? what am i supposed to change m2ts files to so prism can read them?
2)how do i add multiple files to tsmuxer-add or append?
3)why 720x576 if am on ntsc?
4)prism convertor chokes in vista 32-does it work for you?

[Adbear]

you would need to use tsmuxer so you can extract the streams and possibly convert the HD audio track into AC3 before taking it into the prism software

[mojojojo1972]

The prism website doesn't list what audio formats it supports. Like with convertxtodvd I suspect it'll not work on HD audio formats. That means you also have to extract a core audio when using TSMuxer if I'm not mistaken. All in all, the whole process is a royal PITA. Hopefully someday CloneDVD Mobile will start supporting Blu-ray conversions to whatever format you want. That'd be ideal. Still not an easy thing to do, but, imagine using that to convert to a high res mpeg2 file with ac3 or dts audio and then being able to master your DVD with whatever you want. We'll get there someday, I'm sure. For now, this process really does suck.



Yep Hd audio is not an option it tries to convert but comes through all messed up lol trial and error I suppose,I use the 9mb's bit rate at max and min to try and keep a excellant quality conversion,If the file does'nt fit to dvd-r there is always DL:)

[SamuriHL]

Then it's no better than using ConvertXToDVD IMO. And I don't consider that a really good option. You have to strip everything down to the basic level before you even start the conversion. Not a very good and user friendly procedure.

[bwana]

still at step 1-trying to figure out tsremuxer. no support is avalable from the smartlabs website-no docs, no manual, nada.

any pointers? do i add or append? how do i get a 'normal dvd' out of a bluray disc? i am under the illusion that i can buy a bluray disc to pllay on my ps3 at home and convert it to dvd for playing in my car or my friends house.

anyway, i successfully converted the largest file in the stream folder (35gigs!) from m2ts to a ts file. however, converts chokes on it-it says it doesnt recognize the file type.

[mojojojo1972]

Then it's no better than using ConvertXToDVD IMO. And I don't consider that a really good option. You have to strip everything down to the basic level before you even start the conversion. Not a very good and user friendly procedure.


The only thing getting stripped right down is the audio the rest of the procedure would be the same if i was storing on harddrive or bd-r before you would convert,I tried convertX and just did'nt like the program at all,I also tried format factory and many more


The conversion is the only option for me at this time as I would love to keep them on a huge hardrive or even straight to Bd-r,I guess it comes down to what your satisfied with in the end product and my conversions keeps my kids and myself happy:)

[SamuriHL]

I personally have no use for such a conversion. I have a laptop with BD capability for portable blu-ray playback and both my kids have a PC so I can easily make an ISO they can play over the network. Nonetheless I know that a lot of people are into this kind of thing and I'd personally like to see it become easier. Right now, not so much. The audio thing will mostly work until you hit a TrueHD track with no core ac3 audio. Then it'll have to be ripped apart with eac3to, converted, and joined all back together in tsmuxer before you can start the conversion to DVD. Not what I consider user friendly. The process we came up with for making movie only copies is bad enough. This process is just monotonous IMO. All for DVD quality. sigh :)

[robertleeanderson]

The main reason that I actually buy movies is so that I can loan them out to friends.

I have one friend who can play bluray movies.

So, it'd be sweet if could copy all of my bluray discs to DVD to have as loaners. We'll see if this works!

[foxymoron]

Hi there, I am new.
I came across the web about your questions and thought perhaps the following may be of interest.

What you need is:
You need the FOX to rip the Blu-ray
You need ‘tsMuxeR’ (free) http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html
And then you need a burner program to burn to DVD5 or DVD9. (4.3Gig or 8Gig, dual layer) That’s all.

How to:
After you have ripped the Blu-ray to the HDD, drag the largest m2ts file (you find the file on hard drive where you put it/BDMV/Stream, usually more than 20Gig) into ‘tsMuxeR’. There you will see 2 pans on top. Drag the file into the first one. The one beneath will display all streams in detail that are contained in this file. This is usually a long list and varies from one movie to another.

The first line is the video stream and the second the master audio stream.
The following streams are other audio streams, usually in foreign language that can be removed if not wanted. The next lines are mostly presentation streams (PGS), i.e. copy warnings and so on that can be removed as well. All streams are clearly identified, i.e. MPEG-2, DTS-HD’ DTS, AC3 and PGS, and so are the languages. Everything can be removed except the first 2 lines that will hold the main movie and sound, i.e. video and audio DTS-HD, unless one wishes to include a second language or copy warnings. After this cleanup one can mux the selected lines together. I usually select ‘TS muxing’.

The muxed file contains DTS-HD audio. Not every software can deal with DTS and that’s why I use ‘ConvertXtoDVD’ which does a very good job and has a multitude of functions under the hood. It converts the DTS-HD to AC3-2 or 6, shrinks and burns the video to DVD5 or DVD9.
http://www.vso-software.fr/products/convert_x_to_dvd/

The finished disk is a high quality video. :D