View Full Version : Are studios keeping prices up and causing shortages on BD-R50's?
Space Huskey
27th October 2008, 01:47
By this time, I had expected to see prices on dual layer Blu-Ray blanks start to fall at least a little. But the cheapest prices for these discs is still about $29 to $30 each.
Additionally, it seems they are in severely short supply lately. You have to search long and hard to find vendors who even have them in stock lately.
Does anyone suspect studio involvement in this? To me it's obvious.
The question however is is it legal, and is there anything that can be done to expose it and stop it?
Space Huskey
27th October 2008, 01:55
***** ******, one second after I post my thread gets moved to a forum with hardly any exposure? Control freaks much?
I fail to see how blank discs classify as "high definition hardware."
But whatever, if this is the kind of community you want to run here, good luck with that.
DrinkLyeAndDie
27th October 2008, 02:01
***** ******, one second after I post my thread gets moved to a forum with hardly any exposure? Control freaks much?
I fail to see how blank discs classify as "high definition hardware."
But whatever, if this is the kind of community you want to run here, good luck with that.
Your post was moved to where it should have been posted in the first place. Your wanting exposure doesn't supersede how and where to post.
As for not understanding how blank BD-R discs fit under High Definition Hardware, a BD burner, which is a piece of hardware, is used hence it goes in this forum. The posters who actually care about HD/BD are more prone to read this forum than the General Chat forum, anyway.
If you do return to the forums in the future I suggest reading the forum rules here (http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=4) (http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=4) and be more civil. Consider this a warning. :policeman:
oldjoe
27th October 2008, 14:29
You will not see any major drop in Blu-Ray media (pre-recorded or blank) or Blu-Ray hardware until consumers show interest in it.
DrinkLyeAndDie
27th October 2008, 15:58
I doubt much money is being made on BD blank sales. It costs more to produce BD media than other blank media. With lower demand for such media even with the price being high they aren't likely making back nearly what they spend.
The format wars ended so Christmas of 2008 was supposed to be big for BD. With the current worldwide economic turmoil I expect BD sales to be lackluster in terms of standalones, movie releases, readers/burners for PCs, and blank media. This definitely won't help BD gain a faster adoption rate.
While it would seem logical that prices should drop it isn't necessarily true. There is no longer competition from HD-DVD and the BD camp spent a lot of money winning that war. Competition was a motivator for cheaper prices and with no competition there's no reason to price low. Selling blank BD media cheaply won't help them make back money that went against their profit margins and with the economy they want to make as much as they can.
The shortage of BD media and high prices could be compared to OPEC limiting oil production and the resulting high costs when they do.
Pelvis Popcan
28th October 2008, 04:44
I was beginning to wonder about this myself.
I can buy a movie on a BD50 and pay under $15 in many cases.
I can buy two BD-R25's for $9.00 each.
But if I want a BD-R50, it costs me a minimum of $29.00.
If I want a BD-RW50, it costs me a minumum of $43.00.
What a joke.
http://www.meritline.com/50gb-blu-ray-disc.html
Pelvis Popcan
28th October 2008, 04:47
You will not see any major drop in Blu-Ray media (pre-recorded or blank) or Blu-Ray hardware until consumers show interest in it.
It would seem to me plenty of consumers have interest in making backups of their BD50 discs. Just look at the popularity of the AnyDVD HD forum here on slysoft.com.
If making a backup costs more than buying the movie, there's no question the studios think that benefits them.
fast eddie
28th October 2008, 12:40
Put your Blu-ray structure on BD-R (25gb) if you downsize the source movie only approximately 90% of all movies will fit.
OR
A DVD+R DL (8.5gb) approximately two to three will complete the Blu-Ray movie only with NO lost of compression and bitrate, quality of the video same as the source Blu-ray disk.
:)
Major Blu-ray disk manufacture is building a new plant, prices to fall in 2009 on blank Blu-ray disks.
BDMinus
28th October 2008, 19:16
The problem is the movie studios don't want people making copies of their movies. I think blank disc manufacturers need a license to be able to make blu-ray blanks and those licenses probably have fees attached that make it impossible or highly improbably to make cheap blanks. Maybe some company in china or where ever the cheap stuff is made will market some cheap blanks but would you want to use them...cheap bad dvd media isn't touched by people who want quality backups and they won't touch cheap bad blu-ray media either.
Pelvis Popcan
29th October 2008, 16:13
Put your Blu-ray structure on BD-R (25gb) if you downsize the source movie only approximately 90% of all movies will fit.
OR
A DVD+R DL (8.5gb) approximately two to three will complete the Blu-Ray movie only with NO lost of compression and bitrate, quality of the video same as the source Blu-ray disk.
:)
Major Blu-ray disk manufacture is building a new plant, prices to fall in 2009 on blank Blu-ray disks.
Not an option for people wanting a 100% non-reauthored clone backup.
Slinger07
29th October 2008, 20:39
At this time, it is best to just rip a image to your HD and play from there or use TSMuxer to rip 'Movie-Only" to a 25GB BD-RE until the cost of those 50gb BDR's come down.
I just started muxing movie-only and playing that on my BD Player, and storing my originals for such time the 50gb BDR's become affordable. I read on this forum that Slysoft is working on 'CloneItAll' which will make this task much simpler.