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sanderh
12th November 2008, 08:49
I still have some questions about ReClock. I ll try to make it as short as possible and understandable (my English is not that good as I m from Holland):

First let take a look at the Audio Settings:
Sound Pre-buffer size (in ms): standard on 500, decreasing this value gives my the feeling that the lip sync get more accurate. What is this funtion for and what is best to pick?
Max latency for PCM audio and Spdif (in%): I use my Spdif output but what is best to pick here? 5%? And what does decreasing or increasing do?
Use AC3 encoder for PCM sound: what for?
Accept Spdif formats: what for?
Enable audio timestretching: what for?

Then there are the Video Settings. Everything here is clear to me :)

Advanced Settings
Give high CPU priority to player In Ogo's version enabling this option caused for a lot of people more damage than good. How is this nowdays?

Ok, now let s go to the Reclock Properties when media is actually playing:

Clocks Correction
Slave reference clock to audio: What does it do?

Media Adaptation
speed: Auto best to pick?
locked: check it or not? What does it do?
Pal speeddown Ok, here a thing that I want to go into a little bit deeper: Am I correct if I say that when using a display that support a wide frequency range (24,25,48,50 and 60Hz) that it is best to leave this option OFF? So just let PAL movies play on 25Hz and NTSC movies on 23,976Hz which is both supported by my projector?

Sound Adaptation
Do resampling with hardware: what is this for?
Pal speeddown what is this for? Is it related to the other PAL speeddown checkbox under Media Adaptation?


Lot s of question and hope for lot s of input! Thanks for all help you guys.

cbemoore
12th November 2008, 10:02
I still have some questions about ReClock. I ll try to make it as short as possible and understandable (my English is not that good as I m from Holland)

Lot s of question and hope for lot s of input! Thanks for all help you guys.


TIP:
Maybe it is an idea to make some king of Tut/Faq what everything exactly does in ReClock so it s better understandable/configurable for newbies?

Have you read the ReadMe.rtf file that comes as part of the ReClock installation? It should answer most of your questions.

sanderh
12th November 2008, 10:09
Most of the questions I asked are relied on the NEW ReClock from SlySoft. The manual from Ogo gives no answer to most of my questions. Thanks for your reply anyways! Maybe you can go into my questions?

James
12th November 2008, 10:33
So many questions, so little time...
I still have some questions about ReClock. I ll try to make it as short as possible and understandable (my English is not that good as I m from Holland):

First let take a look at the Audio Settings:
Sound Pre-buffer size (in ms): standard on 500, decreasing this value gives my the feeling that the lip sync get more accurate. What is this funtion for and what is best to pick?
The default values should be fine.
Read OGOs manual.


Max latency for PCM audio and Spdif (in%): I use my Spdif output but what is best to pick here? 5%? And what does decreasing or increasing do?

Don't use SPDIF. Please.
5% will give you nothing but crackles with SPDIF.
Read OGOs manual.


Use AC3 encoder for PCM sound: what for?

To avoid SPDIF. It converts PCM to AC3 (SPDIF) in real time.


Accept Spdif formats: what for?

If you insist in using SPDIF. But don't.


Enable audio timestretching: what for?

If your must run the media at a different speed, because of your monitor.


Advanced Settings
Give high CPU priority to player In Ogo's version enabling this option caused for a lot of people more damage than good. How is this nowdays?

Fine. ;)


Ok, now let s go to the Reclock Properties when media is actually playing:

Clocks Correction
Slave reference clock to audio: What does it do?

Read Ogo's manual.


Media Adaptation
speed: Auto best to pick?
locked: check it or not? What does it do?

Read Ogo's manual.
Auto. Not locked.


Pal speeddown Ok, here a thing that I want to go into a little bit deeper: Am I correct if I say that when using a display that support a wide frequency range (24,25,48,50 and 60Hz) that it is best to leave this option OFF? So just let PAL movies play on 25Hz and NTSC movies on 23,976Hz which is both supported by my projector?

No. No. No. No.
You are in Holland? You want to do PAL Speedup removal:
Watching PAL DVDs?
Here's why you need ReClock: http://www.schmidt-web.info/malte/english.html
Use your eyes. Use your ears.


Sound Adaptation
Do resampling with hardware: what is this for?

Read Ogo's manual. Leave it off.


Pal speeddown what is this for? Is it related to the other PAL speeddown checkbox under Media Adaptation?

No, it is *not* related at all. It is just a sound pitch adjustment. Use your ears. Leave it off.

sanderh
12th November 2008, 10:52
Hi James,

First of all I would like to congratulate you with such a great product that you are very nicely bringing back on the market! I will for sure buy the brand new ReClock when it is ready. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!

Now, as for your answers, I keep having some questions:


The default values should be fine.

Check! I ll do this.


Don't use SPDIF. Please.

I ve read more topic here where you suggest NOT the use SPDIF. But what if, like in my case, you have a high-end amplifier with extreme good DD/DTS decoding on-board? Isn t it so that you MUST use SPDIF than? Correct me if I m wrong please!


5% will give you nothing but crackles with SPDIF.

I m not getting crackles or something like that. Maybe I m messing up SPDIF with AC3 or something? Please correct me/inform me because am I missing to big picture here:confused:


No. No. No. No.
You are in Holland? You want to do PAL Speedup removal:
Watching PAL DVDs?
Here's why you need ReClock: http://www.schmidt-web.info/malte/english.html
Use your eyes. Use your ears.

read this article lot s of times to understand it. So if I check PAL speeddown, am I correct when I say that in that case I only need to make ONE custom res. with Powerstrip and that the one should be 1920x1980@23,976Hz (or a multiple of this).


Read Ogo's manual. Leave it off.

check!


No, it is *not* related at all. It is just a sound pitch adjustment. Use your ears. Leave it off.

So when DO people check this box? You didn t made it for fun I assume.


James, again, thxz for all input and good work untill now! :bowdown:

James
12th November 2008, 10:55
I ve read more topic here where you suggest NOT the use SPDIF. But what if, like in my case, you have a high-end amplifier with extreme good DD/DTS decoding on-board? Isn t it so that you MUST use SPDIF than? Correct me if I m wrong please!

Here is the catch: You cannot use PAL-Speedup removal if the amp has to decode the bitstream.

James
12th November 2008, 10:59
So when DO people check this box? You didn t made it for fun I assume.

No, Ogo did. If you want PAL Speedup reversal, but your monitor cannot display 24/48/72 Hz.
It just adjusts the pitch. It is "PAL Speedup reversal" for the poor. ;)
The other one is "PAL Speedup reversal" for the rich. ;)
And both won't work with SPDIF.

sanderh
12th November 2008, 11:03
Here is the catch: You cannot use PAL-Speedup removal if the amp has to decode the bitstream.

Didn t knew this :(

EDIT:
HOWLY COW! I m now thinking about what you say and i THINK i can come to the conclusion that I never used the decoder of my amp.! I ve installed the AC3filter on my sytem so my HTPC has always done the decoding! (Am I correct?)

But, most of the media I own (.wmv and .mkv HD files) needs to be decoded by a filter like AC3filter first because my amp. cannot do this correct?

So......eventually, what signal is feed to my amp in my situation which I m using now? (Media Player Classic, ReClock, Powerstrip and digital coax. out of soundcard).

James
12th November 2008, 11:06
Didn t knew this :(

EDIT:
HOWLY COW! I m now thinking about what you say and i THINK i can come to the conclusion that I never used the decoder of my amp.! I ve installed the AC3filter on my sytem so my HTPC has always done the decoding! (Am I correct?)

But, most of the media I own (.wmv and .mkv HD files) needs to be decoded by a filter like AC3filter first because my amp. cannot do this correct?

So......eventually, what signal is feed to my amp in my situation which I m using now? (Media Player Classic, ReClock, Powerstrip and digital coax. out of soundcard).
Dunno. Depends on the settings of AC3filter.

sanderh
12th November 2008, 11:08
Dunno. Depends on the settings of AC3filter.

hmmm, you re right, didn t think of that. The AC3 filter does not decode I think because it is set to 'AS IS' (no sound modification, just passthrough).

Jong
12th November 2008, 11:58
hmmm, you re right, didn t think of that. The AC3 filter does not decode I think because it is set to 'AS IS' (no sound modification, just passthrough)."AS IS" does not mean that AC3Filter is not decoding. It just means it will not change the encoded rate or format. Whether it decodes or passes through is determined by whether "s/pdif" is ticked, whether AC3Filter is set to load at all for that audio type, and, if s/pdif is ticked, what is set on the s/pdif tab.

sanderh
13th November 2008, 03:31
Forgot to mention it, I have indeed also ticked the box SPDIF.

Maybe a bit off-topic, but can you explain what the following options do:

-Detect SPDIF stream in PCM data
-Use AC3 Encoder
-Output Spdif as PCM
-Restrict SPDIF sample rate
48kHz 44kHz 32kHz
-Disallow PCM output in SPDIF mode

Jong
13th November 2008, 03:35
Forgot to mention it, I have indeed also ticked the box SPDIF.

Maybe a bit off-topic, but can you explain what the following options do:

-Detect SPDIF stream in PCM data
-Use AC3 Encoder
-Output Spdif as PCM
-Restrict SPDIF sample rate
48kHz 44kHz 32kHz
-Disallow PCM output in SPDIF modehttp://ac3filter.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10

leeperry
13th November 2008, 07:32
Auto. Not locked.
I've always set it to auto/locked :)

I don't think it really matters, does it :confused:

ashlar
13th November 2008, 10:43
Read Ogo's manual. Leave it off.Well... this I take objection to. On my system using hardware resampling provides a smoother playback experience, maybe because there's one less thing for Reclock to do, I don't know. Considering when Ogo wrote that part of the manual, it would be interesting to understand which card do it correctly and which don't. With my X-Fi I have no problems.

James
13th November 2008, 16:45
I've always set it to auto/locked :)

I don't think it really matters, does it :confused:

Yes, it only matters if you don't set it to auto.