saw3 and open season

[burnandrip]

just got saw3 for the 5th. time and open season for the 2nd. time,as quick as they get reconzied my red fox goes to grey and can not shrink either movie.

[Webslinger]

just got saw3 for the 5th. time and open season for the 2nd. time,as quick as they get reconzied my red fox goes to grey and can not shrink either movie.

Hello,

Please read http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=1451939&postcount=1

and post the answers back here.

In particular, I would like answers to 1,2,3,4, 7, and 8.

Thank you

[rjmacnc]

1) Ensure you're using the lastest version of Anydvd:
- Check - 6.1.1.4
2) State a)the specific version of Anydvd you're using, b)the specific version(s) of the burning application(s) you are using (and stating "latest versions" isn't sufficient information; use full version numbers), and c)the specific version(s) of whatever other burning application(s) you have installed on your system.
6.1.1.4, Nero 7 Ultra Edition, and DVD Shrink 3.2

3) Specify the a)full title, b)region code, c) country, and d) release date of the disc that you're experiencing issues with.
Saw III, Region 1, United States, Jan 22, 2007

4) Specify a)the brand and b)model number of your optical reader and writer with c)firmware versions for these optical drives. d) Let us know what operating system (version number and service pack, if applicable) you're using as well.
HD LT ST DVD Rom GDR8162B, Sony DVD-RW DRU-810A, Windows XP Pro w/ SP2

5) What blank media are you using? Specify a) brand name b)type (-R, +R, -RW, +RW, RAM, DL, etc.) c)media code, d) capacity/size, e) batch codes/serial codes (often found printed on the inner plastic hub of the blank disc), and f)country (factory information would be great as well, if possible) where the media was made (look on the physical packaging; do not rely on programs to accurately give you this information).

If you don't know how to obtain media codes, you may find the following programs useful:

http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com and http://www.dvdinfopro.com/

6) At what speed are you burning your blank media?

7) Click the red fox icon in your system tray. Select "status" on the left hand side of your screen. With the problematic disc inserted in your computer, click the appropriate drive tab letter (the drive containing the disc) in Anydvd. In the window below the drive letter, copy and paste the information Anydvd gives you in your post asking for help.
Summary for drive E: (AnyDVD 6.1.1.4)
SONY DVD RW DRU-810A 1.0A JUN06 ,2005
Drive (Hardware) Region: 0 (not set!)

Media is a Data DVD.
Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 2 (opposite)
Size of first Layer: 2084960 sectors (4072 MBytes)
Total size: 4169920 sectors (8144 MBytes)

Video DVD (or CD) label: Saw_3_Unrated
Media is CSS protected!
Video Standard: NTSC
Media is locked to region(s): 1!

RCE protection not found.
DVD structure appears to be correct.
Found & removed structural copy protection (Arccos, Puppetlock)!
Found & removed bogus title set!
Autorun not found on Video DVD.
Found & removed 90 bad sector protections!
Emulating RPC-2 drive with region 1!

8) State the full a)error message(s) you encountered, b)tell us what program(s) you were using when you received the error message(s), and c) describe in detail what you were doing when you received the error message(s).
DVD Shrink encountered and error and cannot continue.
Failed to read [CD ROM]

[Webslinger]

DVD Shrink encountered and error and cannot continue.
Failed to read [CD ROM]

Saw 3 Region 1 can be backed up fully using Anydvd 6.1.1.4 and Clonedvd2, Clonecd, and Nero Recode. I am of the opinion it won't work with Shrink yet and Anydvd. You may have to wait until James gets the disc.

[Clams]

Saw 3 Region 1 can be backed up fully using Anydvd 6.1.1.4 and Clonedvd2, Clonecd, and Nero Recode. I am of the opinion it won't work with Shrink yet and Anydvd. You may have to wait until James gets the disc.

That's correct. As of this writing, Saw3 will NOT work with AnyDVD and DVDShrink. I'm gonna wait it out. Nothing against CloneDVD, but I'm used to Shrink, happy with Shrink, and hate to train myself on new software once I'm happy. I'm sure AnyDVD will catch up to Saw3 soon - it always does.

-W

[Buddy]

:agree: I had quite a time getting my computer to copy SAW III, all my programs: DVD Shrnk, 1Click DVD Copy, CLONE DVD, would not even see the DVD in the burner, I even brought the DVD back to the store telling them it was defective, when I got the new SAW III one home, I had the same problem, nothing would read the disk! As a last ditch effort, I put the DVD in, opened Nero Recode to Copy full DVD, browsed it as in my E: drive, and low and behold it WORKED! Nero encoded it, then I clicked BURN, and expected some sort of error, BUT IT WORKED! I was astounded! I made a copy with NO problem, and from the COPY made by Nero, I used DVD Shrink to put it on the hard drive. I should mention that I upgraded my OEM Nero 6.x.x.x to the latest NERO FREE UPGRADE to get NERO Recode, but found that the full program didn't work with DVD Shrink( I would get can't find TRF Error), so I removed the upgrade, but kept Nero RECODE, and it looks like it has great ripping qualitys, that my other programs can't do or match! Anyway, I got to copy SAW III, and to be honest, I just stumbled onto it! ANYDVD ROCKS! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK GUYS!:bowdown:

[Clams]

I have Nero also.. and could get the free update. But again.. I'm too lazy to wanna use anything but DVDShrink 3.2 :)

And I'll continure to use Shrink until I get into HD-DVD or Blue-Ray. that's the whole point and beauty of AnyDVD - It works with whatever ripper and burner YOU want to use. I'd rather wait out Saw3 than to install and learn anything other than Shrink.

I hope when they release the "Saw3 update" they mention it by name in the release notes. :D

-W

[rosegahm]

I also tried burning Saw 3 with slysoft 6.1.1.4 along with dvd shrink and it didnt burn for me. If i pressed on full disk, the only thing that came out was: Dvd shrink encountered a problem and can not continue, failed to read file E:\ . so then i pressed on: Re- author and on the drive the movie was in, and i got only: Audio and video TS- folders. What is it that i am doing wrong?

So the update from slysoft 6.1.1.4 did not work for me.
Please responde as soon as possilble. Thanks:(

[b1030]

I have Nero also.. and could get the free update. But again.. I'm too lazy to wanna use anything but DVDShrink 3.2 :)

And I'll continure to use Shrink until I get into HD-DVD or Blue-Ray. that's the whole point and beauty of AnyDVD - It works with whatever ripper and burner YOU want to use. I'd rather wait out Saw3 than to install and learn anything other than Shrink.

I hope when they release the "Saw3 update" they mention it by name in the release notes. :D

-W

I also have been using Shrink for years. Great free software for it's time. They no longer support this program so as time goes by, you're gonna find more and more DVD's that shrink cannot handle. Not unlike DVD XCopy by 321 Studios, was obsolete quickly with new encryption methods used.
CloneDVD 2 is extremely easy to learn and use.
I suggest you download the free trial of Clone DVD and play with it a few weeks. Sure you'll be satisfied with it's ease of use and support.
Hope this helps,
Brad

[XBURN]

Anydvd 6.1.1.4 and Clonedvd2 do work together for Saw3.

I tried a different method at first with,

DVD Decrypter
Ripit4me
FixVTS

And it worked as well.

[Clams]

I also have been using Shrink for years. Great free software for it's time. They no longer support this program so as time goes by, you're gonna find more and more DVD's that shrink cannot handle.

Sorry to dissagree but I should NEVER find a conventional single or duel-layer DVD that Shrink cannot handle.

If Shrink cannot handle a conventional DVD then it is ENCRYPTED - and that's what AnyDVD is exactly FOR - to make sure Shrink CAN handle it. Just give Slysoft a chance to get a copy and see what they did to SAW3 - they'll crack it.

Again... So long as the "legacy DVD" format does not change (and it won't) then DVDShrink 3.2 coupled with AnyDVD WILL get them all. The only thing unsupported with Shrink is newer COPY PROTECTION, It's only purpose today is as a "dumb-ripper" and a GREAT shrinker. The newer copy protection is EXACTLY what AnyDVD is for, nothing to do with Shrink. DVDShrink will always work with a conventional (non HD or Blue-Ray) DVD once the newer *copy protection* is negated by AnyDVD.

-W (I'm not speaking to NEW DVD technologies lile HD and BLUE-RAY, which I don't expect Shrink to EVER handle)

[4x4le]

I too had problems using the latest version of any dvd with shrink, then I downloaded the latest version of dvd clone 2 as a trial to see if its something that I would want to get, and I still cannot copy saw 3. I dont know how some people are doing it but I hope the problem is fixed soon. Darn these new releases!

[Clams]

According to the other SAW3 thread, James at Slysoft is getting a copy of SAW3 in to see what they did to it. There have been many sporadic reports of SAW3 working and not-working with various decripter/ripper combos. Just give them a moment to look it over. One great think about Slysoft... as the DVD companies keep building better mousetraps - Slysoft keeps building a better mouse. :D

-W

[Charlie]

Their mousetraps as you call it to is effecting the original on playback on a stand alone. Saw 3 and the texas chainsaw massacre both skipped and paused on PC and the player. I made a back up of the 2 and no skips or nothing. Now we are eventually going to BD or what I want HDDVD I hope it is better quality by then and not crappy media or presses.

[4x4le]

since they are starting to be limited on what copy blockes they can make to not allow us to copy them is making them mess up playing on normal dvd players, hopefully they will just give up.

[Webslinger]

I too had problems using the latest version of any dvd with shrink, then I downloaded the latest version of dvd clone 2 as a trial to see if its something that I would want to get, and I still cannot copy saw 3. !

Anydvd 6.1.1.4 + Clonedvd2 2.9.0.3 (not dvd clone) + Saw 3 R1 = no problems

If you do have a problem, chances are you have a bad original disc (even if it looks fine) that needs to be exchanged. Many bad discs of Saw 3 R1 are out there.

[oldjoe]

I also have been using Shrink for years. Great free software for it's time. They no longer support this program so as time goes by, you're gonna find more and more DVD's that shrink cannot handle. Not unlike DVD XCopy by 321 Studios, was obsolete quickly with new encryption methods used.

I also have to disagree with the statement about Shrink. Shrink was not the problem with SawIII, AnyDVD, as well as other decrypters, could not handle it. I used RipIt4Me-FixTVS........... and Shrink did its job effortlessly.
I do agree with your statement about many other softwares not staying around.The "new" version of XCopy (neXtCopy) as well as 1Click, are good examples. They are slow to update and people want what they pay for to work when they want it. That's what has always made AnyDVD a worthwhile investment.

[Charlie]

I will disagree with you on your statement as DNC is keeping up on updates and is able to do all movies. As for 1 click there is an update but when:p

[jleejr65]

i also had a problem the first time i tride to burn saw3! but the latest version of Anydvd and Clonedvd2 worked w/o a hitch the second time around!! dont like dvd shrink or nero 7 ultra edition at all....

[garryb]

I tried DVD Shrink coupled with Any DVD to backup Saw III and it failed. Uploaded the trial version of Clone DVD2 and worked fine the first time. Watched on stand alone and there were no errors or skips....VERY SATISFIED

[Babydollanne]

Hi,
I also used my Nero Recode to encode Open Season and it worked great, my anydvd is always running in the background so I use copy disc and then just used the main movie. I also put my directory folder to go to my dvd burner instead of image,ect.........
Anne

[Clams]

I also have to disagree with the statement about Shrink. Shrink was not the problem with SawIII, AnyDVD, as well as other decrypters, could not handle it. I used RipIt4Me-FixTVS........... and Shrink did its job effortlessly.



Totally agree with OldJoe.
I don't understand why some people don't get that blaming Shrink for a rip problem, is like blaming a pencil for a spelling problem :D

Shrink is (nowadays) just a very dumb ripper that needs a good decrypter ahead of it for it to do it's job properly. With the exception of SAW3 (which Slysoft is working on) I've ALWAYS been more than happey with AnyDVD and whatever ripper I chose to use.


-W

[skeetman]

Backed up full version of SAW III last night to HD with 6.1.1.4 using the old version of DVD Fab and then used shrink to burn it. Played just fine in the DVD player.

[trussme]

Hello,

Please read http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=1451939&postcount=1

and post the answers back here.

In particular, I would like answers to 1,2,3,4, 7, and 8.

Thank you HERE"S MY PROBLEM:
"First Time"...AnyDVD has not worked for me in many moons. Just used 6.1.1.4 without a problem on "FLY BOYS".....put in "Open Season"....red fox Icon in tray stayed faint for an unusually long time, cleared... gave me OK to continue Screen...opened DVD Shrink 3.2 , Identified File, clicked to Open File, Got : ....can not continue...Failed to read file "F:\" ....IS IT possible there is a new Sony encription in this DVD...it was just released today...THANKS!

[Webslinger]

HERE"S MY PROBLEM:
"First Time"...AnyDVD has not worked for me in many moons. Just used 6.1.1.4 without a problem on "FLY BOYS".....put in "Open Season"....red fox Icon in tray stayed faint for an unusually long time, cleared... gave me OK to continue Screen...opened DVD Shrink 3.2 , Identified File, clicked to Open File, Got : ....can not continue...Failed to read file "F:\" ....IS IT possible there is a new Sony encription in this DVD...it was just released today...THANKS!

Anydvd 6.1.1.4 will not support this title with Shrink yet.

Like Saw3, Open Season and Anydvd 6.1.1.4 will likely work with Clonedvd2, Clonecd, and Nero Recode--but not Shrink, yet.

[trussme]

I was hoping you'd say what you did ( "not yet")....I've used Shrink 3.2 (w/Nero Ultra) for a long time with AnyDvd flawlessly....NOT, that I'm opposed to spending the $$ for Clone DVD..."change", comes hard for a 67 year old f--t like me ...I've been into A/V stuff since I was 17.. sooooo, if your'e going to fix/upgrade 6114 to work with Shrink, just let me (us) know...otherwise, I guess I'll not be "backing up" my Open Season DVD...it'd probably make a nice coaster in 4 or 5 months, anyway...:agree:

[DAB Badboy]

I see there is an update of 1 click DVD copy Pro that claims to handle "Saw 3".

"2.4.1.4 (Jan 30, 2007) This version contains a CPRx update and several bug fixes to deal with movies like "Saw III". The log and settings files are now stored in the Public documents folder (Vista) and in the "...All Users/Application Data" folder for all other versions of Windows to avoid user rights issues."

... to quote from the version history.

[Webslinger]

I was hoping you'd say what you did ( "not yet")....I've used Shrink 3.2 (w/Nero Ultra) for a long time with AnyDvd flawlessly....NOT, that I'm opposed to spending the $$ for Clone DVD..."change", comes hard for a 67 year old f--t like me ...I've been into A/V stuff since I was 17.. sooooo, if your'e going to fix/upgrade 6114 to work with Shrink, just let me (us) know...otherwise, I guess I'll not be "backing up" my Open Season DVD...it'd probably make a nice coaster in 4 or 5 months, anyway...:agree:

Hi,

I don't develop Anydvd. I'm just a customer, like you, who happens to use Anydvd. So I can't really fix anything.

That said, you mentioned you have Nero Ultra 7. Update Nero Ultra 7 to 7.7.5.1 and try to back it up with Anydvd 6.1.1.4 and Nero Recode. I have reason to believe doing so might work.

The Shrink developer, by the way, went on to help develop Nero Recode. So the programs are somewhat similar.

[Clams]

Hi,

The Shrink developer, by the way, went on to help develop Nero Recode. So the programs are somewhat similar.

Now that's VERY intersteing!! Thanks!

I'd love to see some quality and performance comparisons between the two- from those that have used both a lot.

-W

[Webslinger]

Now that's VERY intersteing!! Thanks!

I'd love to see some quality and performance comparisons between the two- from those that have used both a lot.

-W

Recode's transcoder is, arguably, a little better (but not by a huge margin, in my opinion). This is probably obvious due to the fact Shrink hasn't been updated while Nero Recode has.

[trussme]

[QUOTE=Webslinger;3021]Hi,



That said, you mentioned you have Nero Ultra 7. Update Nero Ultra 7 to 7.7.5.1 and try to back it up with Anydvd 6.1.1.4 and Nero Recode. I have reason to believe doing so might work.

Your'e suggesting then, that I not use Shrink...but try this Nero Recode?

[Webslinger]

Your'e suggesting then, that I not use Shrink...but try this Nero Recode?

Well, you own it already. Make sure you update to Nero Ultra 7.7.5.1 first.

Ideally, I would recommend Clonedvd2, but since you mentioned learning a new program being an issue and since you already own Nero Recode (and it's somewhat similar to Shrink) . . .

Honestly, Clonedvd2 has to be one of the easiest programs to learn. I recommend trying the free trial out. Clonedvd2 uses a very simple interface, and it works.

[XBURN]

I looked into current version of AnyDVD and Shrink for Open Season.

Its a no go on my system like Saw 3 at first.

But I feel within the next 2 hours I' ll try the solution I did with Saw 3 as current version of AnyDVd and CloneDVD2. I only tried this combo once on Saw 3 and it worked and as the saying goes "if it ain' t broken why fix it" so the new combo I will try and most likely be satisfied.

Thanks Slysoft.

[trussme]

Well, you own it already. Make sure you update to Nero Ultra 7.7.5.1 first.

Ideally, I would recommend Clonedvd2, but since you mentioned learning a new program being an issue and since you already own Nero Recode (and it's somewhat similar to Shrink) . . .

Honestly, Clonedvd2 has to be one of the easiest programs to learn. I recommend trying the free trial out. Clonedvd2 uses a very simple interface, and it works.

Thanks... Nero wants $79. to update my Nero version ( I had 6.6, not 7.0) so, that is not an option. My feeling is "the foxes will fix this"...because that is what Any Dvd should do...rather than refer me to another product to fix an apparent temporary miscue in Any Dvd that will be addressed...and eventually fixed.

[Webslinger]

Thanks... Nero wants $79. to update my Nero version ( I had 6.6, not 7.0)

You can update to 6.6.1.4 for free then and still use Nero Recode.

[trussme]

You can update to 6.6.1.4 for free then and still use Nero Recode.

....but you do believe, as I, that a fix is in the works...???

[Charlie]

....but you do believe, as I, that a fix is in the works...???

He's just a mod here and is in no way in control of what is going on....on the inside. He is very knowledgeable though grant you that.

[XBURN]

I looked into current version of AnyDVD and Shrink for Open Season.

Its a no go on my system like Saw 3 at first.

But I feel within the next 2 hours I' ll try the solution I did with Saw 3 as current version of AnyDVd and CloneDVD2. I only tried this combo once on Saw 3 and it worked and as the saying goes "if it ain' t broken why fix it" so the new combo I will try and most likely be satisfied.

Thanks Slysoft.

Confirmed Open Season (movie only) can be done with newsest version of AnyDVD and CloneDVD2.

Just watched the whole copy and looks great.

[Clams]

....but you do believe, as I, that a fix is in the works...???


James at SlySoft posted on another thread that he's getting a copy of Saw3 Region1 ASAP - to get to the bottom of it. So yes, I believe a fix will be forthcoming. Have they EVER failed us yet??

-W

[Webslinger]

....but you do believe, as I, that a fix is in the works...???

As others have stated, I am not a Slysoft developer. I'm just a Slysoft customer, like you.

I'll tell you what I know:

1. James has previously stated he is waiting for his R1 Saw 3 disc to finally arrive. At that point, he may look into the Shrink problem.

2. James is working heavily at the moment on a new and exciting Slysoft product.

Do I believe this Shrink issue will be addressed in the future? Yes.
Can I tell you exactly when? I have no idea.

[Webslinger]

For those of you with Open Season, please do this:

http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=330

Thank you

[Fina Type]

I just bought Open Season and used ripit4me, DVDDecripter, Fix/VTS, then DVD Shrink. Movie Burnt Fine ;)

[Charlie]

I just rented Open Season and used ripit4me, DVDDecripter, Fix/VTS, then DVD Shrink. Movie Burnt Fine


Do we allow talk of renting to copy a DVD here?:doh:

[trussme]

For those of you with Open Season, please do this:

http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=330

Thank you

Webslinger, just tried to "PLAY" my new Open Season DVD (the one that won't Open/Rip using Any Dvd + Shrink) in three different DVD drives in all 3 of our computers...won't play either in any of them!!!..........so, what's your take on this?:confused:

[Webslinger]

Webslinger, just tried to "PLAY" my new Open Season DVD (the one that won't Open/Rip using Any Dvd + Shrink) in three different DVD drives in all 3 of our computers...won't play either in any of them!!!..........so, what's your take on this?:confused:

Does it play with Anydvd disabled?

If not, my take is you have a bad disc that needs to be exchanged (even if it looks fine).

[Clams]

As others have stated, I am not a Slysoft developer. I'm just a Slysoft customer, like you.

I'll tell you what I know:

1. James has previously stated he is waiting for his R1 Saw 3 disc to finally arrive. At that point, he may look into the Shrink problem.

Do I believe this Shrink issue will be addressed in the future? Yes.
Can I tell you exactly when? I have no idea.

Please don't try to couch this as JUST an issue with Shrink. ("The Shrink Problem") Referring to parts 2 and 3 of your own Sticky, Locked, Post of Yesterday...... "Best Way to Rip with AnyDVD"


2. With the latest version of Anydvd running, drag and drop the video_ts folder to your desktop using Windows Explorer. Alternatively, you don't need to rip at all and can just directly import the disc into whatever burning application you want, provided Anydvd is running in the background. You don't necessarily need to rip first at all. Not having to rip first at all is one major advantage of using Anydvd.

3. If you can't get what you want using #1 and #2 first, then you right click on the fox icon on your toolbar and select rip video-dvd to hard disk--but only if methods 1 and 2 fail first. This method uses an old version of FixVTS, which is often not required. .

I can *assure* you that Windows Explorer or the built in AnyDVD rip-tool cannot get SAW3 onto the hard disk iether. This with Shrink not even in the equation. The problem is with Saw3 and several normal rip methods, not just Shrink.

-W

[Charlie]

Ao why was I able to backup the whole disc using clonedvd2 and anydvd then? I think it is a shrink problem that can't get fixed.

[Clams]

So why was I able to backup the whole disc using clonedvd2 and anydvd then? I think it is a shrink problem that can't get fixed.

Because CloneDVD2 (and a few other rippers) seem unnafecfted by whatever was done (new) to Saw3. We all know this....

But again, the problem is not JUST with Shrink... The very fact that you can't do a regular Windows Explorer rip of the vidio folder indicates that there is some COPY PROTECTION that isn't_getting_broken. <sigh>

And **who** said it's not going to be fixed? The Slysoft dood himself (not the volunteer moderator) said he was getting a copy of SAW3 Region One in order to see what the issue is.

-W

[Charlie]

On getting fixed I was referring to the outdated dvd shrink.

[Clams]

On getting fixed I was referring to the outdated dvd shrink.

It's old, but it works on what we can agree to call "legacy DVD's" - now that Blu-Ray and HD are out as the Next Gen DVD's.

Yes... it is out dated... it's as least as outdated as a 20 year old hammer.
ie Shrink is too DUMB to be obsolete... so long as the COPY PROTECTION is truely broken ahead of it.

-W

[Charlie]

Very true I love to compress with it but that's all plus like the remove adverts feature too.

[Webslinger]

Please don't try to couch this as JUST an issue with Shrink. ("The Shrink Problem") Referring to parts 2 and 3 of your own Sticky, Locked, Post of Yesterday...... "Best Way to Rip with AnyDVD"


I have no idea what you're talking about. What I posted is the best way to rip with Anydvd.

And while Shrink may not be the only ripper that has problems with Anydvd and this title (1-Click works fine now as well, btw), Shrink certainly does have an issue with this title if you're only using Anydvd. I wasn't trying to "couch" anything. If you read it as otherwise, that's unfortunate.

I can *assure* you that Windows Explorer or the built in AnyDVD rip-tool

You'll notice those are listed in order of significance. The #1 method does work.

[Clams]

I have no idea what you're talking about. What I posted is the best way to rip with Anydvd.

And while Shrink may not be the only ripper that has problems with Anydvd and this title (1-Click works fine now as well, btw), Shrink certainly does have an issue with this title if you're only using Anydvd. I wasn't trying to "couch" anything. If you read it as otherwise, that's unfortunate.

You'll notice those are listed in order of significance. The #1 method does work.

I was just noting that your own posted #2 and #3 methods (that normally work with every other movie) will not work with Saw3 and AnyDVD alone.

I was also using this post to point out that a movie that's had it's copy protection stripped doesn't even NEED a commercial ripper to get it on the hard drive , your #2 method works *every* time on a truely naked DVD.
-W

[Webslinger]

I was just noting that your own posted #2 and #3 methods (that normally work with every other movie) will not work with Saw3 and AnyDVD alone.

/shrug ok

I was also using this post to point out that a movie that's had it's copy protection stripped doesn't even NEED a commercial ripper to get it on the hard drive , your #2 method works *every* time on a truely naked DVD.


The #2 method works on most protected titles as well, provided Anydvd is running in the background.

[Clams]

/shrug ok

The #2 method works on most protected titles as well, provided Anydvd is running in the background.

I totally agree... that's what I meant by "naked" - once protected but now stripped of all protection by AnyDVD. (ie stripped bare for windows to rape and pillage) :D

And that #2 method has never failed me yet.. so long as AnyDVD is running. It's only with these 2 new titles that it's failing - as is methood #3.

-W

[Webslinger]

And that #2 method has never failed me yet.. so long as AnyDVD is running. It's only with these 2 new titles that it's failing - as is methood #3.



I guess some people don't believe me, but I honestly hope this issue will be addressed in a future update. I have reason to believe it will be.

[Clams]

I guess some people don't believe me, but I honestly hope this issue will be addressed in a future update. I have reason to believe it will be.


I believe you. Just to make that clear. I was just objecting to the use of specific language to refer to it as "the problem with Shrink". We OK now?

-W

[Webslinger]

I believe you. Just to make that clear. I was just objecting to the use of specific language to refer to it as "the problem with Shrink". We OK now?


No problem

[res2cue]

I personally am grateful for this "sticky"... I had never thought, or heard of number 2 method, can't wait to try it... but I have to admit if I've been ripping to my hd for no reason all this time, I'm going to do my best to kick myself in the head!:bowdown:

[oldjoe]

I will disagree with you on your statement as DNC is keeping up on updates and is able to do all movies. As for 1 click there is an update but when:p

BUT, not in a timely fashion. Read my posts thoroughly.
"They are slow to update and people want what they pay for to work when they want it."

[oldjoe]

....but you do believe, as I, that a fix is in the works...???
Of course there is. Has AnyDVD ever failed before?:D

[Charlie]

BUT, not in a timely fashion. Read my posts thoroughly.
"They are slow to update and people want what they pay for to work when they want it."


And this differs from the waiting on a good update to use dvd shrink and anydvd why? No I not knocking any software just a thought. As some people are waiting on james to get the disc.

[oldjoe]

Ao why was I able to backup the whole disc using clonedvd2 and anydvd then? I think it is a shrink problem that can't get fixed.

Shrink is not the problem. The problem is getting it decrypted before you use Shrink.

[oldjoe]

And this differs from the waiting on a good update to use dvd shrink and anydvd why? No I not knocking any software just a thought. As some people are waiting on james to get the disc.

If you follow the posts on SawIII, there is no problem. RipIt4Me - FixTVS and Shrink. I didn't have to wait at all. That's what customers want from a product that they pay for.

[Charlie]

If you follow the posts on SawIII, there is no problem. RipIt4Me - FixTVS and Shrink. I didn't have to wait at all. That's what customers want from a product that they pay for.


OK the problem is anydvd + dvd shrink you decided to add a diffrent decrypter to terminate the problem but the origina; problem remains at hand.

[Microburn]

If you follow the posts on SawIII, there is no problem. RipIt4Me - FixTVS and Shrink. I didn't have to wait at all. That's what customers want from a product that they pay for.
I agree customers that buy a product just want what they paid for so I have to wait a whole four days for Anydvd to update to take care of SawIII the update was very fast and the last I knew this was one of the very first companies to get the update out so quickly great news for all SS users!!!:D :D :D

[oldjoe]

OK the problem is anydvd + dvd shrink you decided to add a diffrent decrypter to terminate the problem but the origina; problem remains at hand.

The problem, in the equation that you chose, is not Shrink. The problem, in that equation, is AnyDVD. Shrink is capable compressing the data. That's what it does.

[Charlie]

The problem, in the equation that you chose, is not Shrink. The problem, in that equation, is AnyDVD. Shrink is capable compressing the data. That's what it does.


So we can agree that anydvd and dvd shrink will not or won't do this title. All other apps I have will. As I have used a lot of others with no issues.

[oldjoe]

So we can agree that anydvd and dvd shrink will not or won't do this title.

AnyDVD will not do the title. Shrink was never the problem with SawIII. It ONLY compresses. Here is a link to the workings of Shrink (http://www.mrbass.org/dvdshrink/). Perhaps this will help you to understand what Shrink does.

[Webslinger]

I think we all know what Shrink does. I think we all know what Anydvd does.

This sticky pretty much covers the issue at the moment:
http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=417

Please stay on topic. Thank you.

[Buddy]

I had quite a time getting my computer to copy SAW III, all my programs: DVD Shrnk, 1Click DVD Copy, CLONE DVD, would not even see the DVD in the burner, I even brought the DVD back to the store telling them it was defective, when I got the new SAW III one home, I had the same problem, nothing would read the disk! As a last ditch effort, I put the DVD in, opened Nero Recode to Copy full DVD, browsed it as in my E: drive, and low and behold it WORKED! Nero encoded it, then I clicked BURN, and expected some sort of error, BUT IT WORKED! I was astounded! I made a copy with NO problem, and from the COPY made by Nero, I used DVD Shrink to put it on the hard drive. I should mention that I upgraded my OEM Nero 6.x.x.x to the latest NERO FREE UPGRADE to get NERO Recode, but found that the full program didn't work with DVD Shrink( I would get can't find TRF Error), so I removed the upgrade, but kept Nero RECODE, and it looks like it has great ripping qualitys, that my other programs can't do or match! Anyway, I got to copy SAW III, and to be honest, I just stumbled onto it! ANYDVD ROCKS! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK GUYS!"

Added note: NERO Recode allows you to copy SAW III fine, it's actually a good ripper, your problem is you have upgrade your NERO 6 to the new FREE upgrade. remove the main program (other wise DVD shrink will not work with the new NERO upgrade, as far as kicking out original disk, and then giving you the "cannot find TRF" error, and keep the Recode section of it. DVD Shink that is my favorite program will just not read the disk (you get the error E:\ cant be read,) along with my other ripping software I was surprised Nero Recode would do it. DVD Shrink will no longer be upgraded, and as time goes by it will work less and less,, time to start thinking of the future, and a new way to RIP. Nero Recode is a simple easy program for anyone to use, lets all give it a try, my results so far have been 100% problem free! I would LOVE someone to revamp DVD Shrink, and keep it up to date,, any takers?

[Webslinger]

I would LOVE someone to revamp DVD Shrink, and keep it up to date,, any takers?

The developer of Shrink went on to help develop Nero Recode, which is one reason why Recode is so similar to Shrink (and arguably has a slightly better transcoder than Shrink).

[TPLAT]

I had quite a time getting my computer to copy SAW III, all my programs: DVD Shrnk, 1Click DVD Copy, CLONE DVD, would not even see the DVD in the burner, I even brought the DVD back to the store telling them it was defective, when I got the new SAW III one home, I had the same problem, nothing would read the disk! As a last ditch effort, I put the DVD in, opened Nero Recode to Copy full DVD, browsed it as in my E: drive, and low and behold it WORKED! Nero encoded it, then I clicked BURN, and expected some sort of error, BUT IT WORKED! I was astounded! I made a copy with NO problem, and from the COPY made by Nero, I used DVD Shrink to put it on the hard drive. I should mention that I upgraded my OEM Nero 6.x.x.x to the latest NERO FREE UPGRADE to get NERO Recode, but found that the full program didn't work with DVD Shrink( I would get can't find TRF Error), so I removed the upgrade, but kept Nero RECODE, and it looks like it has great ripping qualitys, that my other programs can't do or match! Anyway, I got to copy SAW III, and to be honest, I just stumbled onto it! ANYDVD ROCKS! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK GUYS!"

Added note: NERO Recode allows you to copy SAW III fine, it's actually a good ripper, your problem is you have upgrade your NERO 6 to the new FREE upgrade. remove the main program (other wise DVD shrink will not work with the new NERO upgrade, as far as kicking out original disk, and then giving you the "cannot find TRF" error, and keep the Recode section of it. DVD Shink that is my favorite program will just not read the disk (you get the error E:\ cant be read,) along with my other ripping software I was surprised Nero Recode would do it. DVD Shrink will no longer be upgraded, and as time goes by it will work less and less,, time to start thinking of the future, and a new way to RIP. Nero Recode is a simple easy program for anyone to use, lets all give it a try, my results so far have been 100% problem free! I would LOVE someone to revamp DVD Shrink, and keep it up to date,, any takers?

The latest versions of AnyDvd with CloneDvd2 or 1Click or 1Click Pro will back it up.

[Buddy]

Yes I had head that the developer of DVD Shrink moved to NERO, and maybe he had something to do with NERO Recode being able to work the way it does, making copys of movies other programs can't even see,,anyway I like to think so!:bowdown:

[Webslinger]

Yes I had head that the developer of DVD Shrink moved to NERO, and maybe he had something to do with NERO Recode being able to work the way it does, making copys of movies other programs can't even see,,anyway I like to think so!:bowdown:

You may want to look for a firmware update for your optical reader and/or possibly an update to your ide/ATA/SATA bus drivers. Something is wrong there.

Have you tried Anydvd in "safe mode"?

[Charlie]

The latest versions of AnyDvd with CloneDvd2 or 1Click or 1Click Pro will back it up.

DVD neXt COPY and DVD95 Copy, DVD Rebuilder will too

[Buddy]

You may want to look for a firmware update for your optical reader and/or possibly an update to your ide/ATA/SATA bus drivers. Something is wrong there.

Have you tried Anydvd in "safe mode"?
Hi Webslinger, my firmware is up to date, and no, I haven;t tryied AnyDVD in safe mode, thats some thing that I will try when next problem arises. Thanks for the hint, I'll give it a try! Tonight I did The Marine, and Flyboys witout a problem ANYDVD ROCKS!:bowdown:

[Clams]

Added note: NERO Recode allows you to copy SAW III fine, it's actually a good ripper, your problem is you have upgrade your NERO 6 to the new FREE upgrade. remove the main program (other wise DVD shrink will not work with the new NERO upgrade, as far as kicking out original disk, and then giving you the "cannot find TRF" error, and keep the Recode section of it. DVD Shink that is my favorite program will just not read the disk (you get the error E:\ cant be read,) along with my other ripping software I was surprised Nero Recode would do it.

If NERO Recode will Rip AND do the transcode (read shrink), as well as hook to the nero burning ROM - why do you need to put DVDShrink back into the equation at all???

-W (getting confused)

[Buddy]

If NERO Recode will Rip AND do the transcode (read shrink), as well as hook to the nero burning ROM - why do you need to put DVDShrink back into the equation at all???

-W (getting confused)
I like to use DVD Shrink after the movie is completed using Recode, so I can get it on my hard drive using the Recode disk, I find that the easyiest way, and then make addtional copies when I want to, directly from the HD. Seems to work well for me this way.:agree:

[Buddy]

Yawn,,,,,, good discussion,, but time for bed,,,,,,,night all, dreaming of ANYDVD for sure,,,,,,, IT ROCKS! :bowdown:

[Webslinger]

-W (getting confused)

You're not the only one.

But oh well, whatever he's happy with is fine with me.

[squidman]

Found out that Virtual (BEEP) Professional and Latest Anydvd running in the back ground back ups are no problemo, Bad part you must burn using a dual layer burner and a dual layered disk and back up the entire disk, if you use Clone CD/DVD selection in the Virtual(BEEP) Professional even the latest encrytions are totally ignored and you can back up the newest movies even without waiting for AnyDvd to catch up. Love DVD Shrink and AnyDVD combo yet you have to wait over a week to get the latest bugs out of them.

[GreenHead]

My movie burnt fine but I just have them talking over the whole movie. I used anydvd and clonedvd. I only selected the movie (the top one) removed everything else. This also happened on Step Up.

[Webslinger]

My movie burnt fine but I just have them talking over the whole movie. I used anydvd and clonedvd. I only selected the movie (the top one) removed everything else. This also happened on Step Up.

You selected the wrong audio in Clonedvd2.

visit http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=2690&postcount=4

[coeurdelion]

i got the same problem with the open season ,i could not burn it, on the error message that said ''doesn't recognize the dvd drive,but after installing the new version of any dvd 6114,problem was solved but don't forget that i cleared computer from any version even cleared the line by executing by the fonction ''start,execute,then tap regedit,regedit shows ''hkey-currentuser then click on ''software'' then cleared the line identify as 'slysoft' then shut down computer ,restart computer,reinstall anydvd version 6113 or 6114
that's it

[coeurdelion]

sometimes when i can burn a specific movie,i copy the file ''video_ts''from the dvd to the hard disk and after in browsing in clone dvd2 i locate the directory where i put the ''video_ts and i burn the movie,it's works but not for all.

[nerdherdman]

I was able to copy saw3 with Nero 7.7.5.1 recode and Any DVD 6.1.1.4. I have not previewed the entire movie. It copied without a hitch. Clone DVD version 2.9.0.3 and Any DVD 6.1.1.4 will not copy the same Saw3 DVD. It gets a sector read error message somewhere around vts_04_0.vob.

[Webslinger]

It gets a sector read error message somewhere around vts_04_0.vob.

There have been some reports of some compatibility issues with Anydvd/Clonedvd2 and specific burners (with specific firmwares). Mostly, based on what I've read, these have been newer Liteon drives.

[SlyFox 1]

If NERO Recode will Rip AND do the transcode (read shrink), as well as hook to the nero burning ROM - why do you need to put DVDShrink back into the equation at all???

-W (getting confused) You are right. Shrink is an old unsupported program, there are many programs that cost little or nothing that you can use. If in fact the author of Shrink as has been said here is now employed by Nero it would make sense for him to make Recode not compatible with Shrink so people will buy Nero. I do not even know if this is true but we could speculate for hours and nothing will be accomplished. When and if Shrink can open these titles is not known, I am sure it will be accomplished at some point. I do not think its a number 1 priority.:disagree:

[DetroitBaseball]

You are right. Shrink is an old unsupported program, there are many programs that cost little or nothing that you can use. If in fact the author of Shrink as has been said here is now employed by Nero it would make sense for him to make Recode not compatible with Shrink so people will buy Nero. I do not even know if this is true but we could speculate for hours and nothing will be accomplished. When and if Shrink can open these titles is not known, I am sure it will be accomplished at some point. I do not think its a number 1 priority.:disagree:
DVD Fab and RipIt4Me are free and work good.

EDIT: I just successfully copied Open Season on Windows Vista with CloneDVD 2.9.0.3 and AnyDVD 6.1.1.4. Works good.

[GreenHead]

:clap: Thanks for your help Webslinger. I never messed with audio. Whatever it picked as default I left it. Switched and it worked.

[Webslinger]

:clap: Thanks for your help Webslinger. I never messed with audio. Whatever it picked as default I left it. Switched and it worked.

No problem

Glad it worked.

[RAMROD]

I just copied open season using clonedvd2 V2.9.0.3 and anydvd 6.1.1.4 had no problems. Movie and all extra features play fine.

[DetroitBaseball]

I just copied open season using clonedvd2 V2.9.0.3 and anydvd 6.1.1.4 had no problems. Movie and all extra features play fine.
Same here.

[oldjoe]

I think we all know what Shrink does. I think we all know what Anydvd does.

This sticky pretty much covers the issue at the moment:
http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=417

Please stay on topic. Thank you.

Yes, that link does explain what AnyDVD does but there seems to be some misconception about DVDShrink. Hence my posts.
My apologies for getting "off topic".

[oldjoe]

On getting fixed I was referring to the outdated dvd shrink.

Nothing is outdated in Shrink. It still does what it supposed to do.:clap: