Problem burning to DVD-R

[Free DVD Coasters]

I've been using a Liteon dvd-rom and LG GSA 4160B for a while and no problem. Now my LG wont burn to DVD-R. It will burn DVD-RW and DVD RAM (haven't tried DVD+R yet). Blank DVD-R disc properties come up as file system RAW but no available space. The drives will read DVD-R.
When I attempt to burn a DVD-R the writer hangs and I have to turn off pc.
Have uninstalled all burning software and re-installed individual programs to minimise compatability problems. Have tried Nero AnyDVD and CloneDVD2,
Have uninstalled the drives and let XP re-install and still the same.
So now I have purchased an ASUS DRW-1612BL, updated firmware.
The problem remains.
I'll also mention I have installed InCd on this machine and then removed it, whether this may be a culprit I am unsure.
Can someone give me some help on this?
I am currently using TDK DVD-R 1-8x
Thought I might have a bad batch of DVD's (but half of them have worked and now they just wont)
Bought some new TDK DVD-r 16x, but the problem is still there.

[oldjoe]

Be certain the Asus is connected correctly and then try a different cable to the Asus.

[shannon90210]

I've been using a Liteon dvd-rom and LG GSA 4160B for a while and no problem. Now my LG wont burn to DVD-R. It will burn DVD-RW and DVD RAM (haven't tried DVD+R yet). Blank DVD-R disc properties come up as file system RAW but no available space. The drives will read DVD-R.
When I attempt to burn a DVD-R the writer hangs and I have to turn off pc.
Have uninstalled all burning software and re-installed individual programs to minimise compatability problems. Have tried Nero AnyDVD and CloneDVD2,
Have uninstalled the drives and let XP re-install and still the same.
So now I have purchased an ASUS DRW-1612BL, updated firmware.
The problem remains.
I'll also mention I have installed InCd on this machine and then removed it, whether this may be a culprit I am unsure.
Can someone give me some help on this?
I am currently using TDK DVD-R 1-8x
Thought I might have a bad batch of DVD's (but half of them have worked and now they just wont)
Bought some new TDK DVD-r 16x, but the problem is still there.

I have had the same result - with DVD -R Media Using CloneDVD2

Using the 1Click5 // PRO Burn engine
- I must have it Set to "Try SAO First"
- or I have the same result

It has something to do - with the Burner
- It usually more effects LG ( based ) Drives

My solution is Simply to Use DVD +Rs only
- when using CloneDVD2 to burn
( I prefer +Rs anyway )

In the time I've spent on the LGSI forum
- We've seen this quite a lot
The "Try SAO First" setting usually resolves the 'freeze-up' Issue
- when burning -Rs with 1Click5 // PRO

We are not sure - exactly what causes this ;
It definitely depends on the Burner .
The Set-Up ?
If it also depends on an influence - from other software ?
- like if the Sonic Burn Engine - is also installed ?
- We're just not sure
There is definitely some conflict - somewhere

I don't really have a solution for you
I never resolved the Issue for Myself
I just wanted to share my experience
- before you go ripping your Computer apart

I Just use +Rs when Burning with CloneDVD2/ CloneCD

For your -Rs
You could try Burning the Back-Up Folder with IMGBurn/Nero
- See if you have the same result
( with IMGBurn/Nero - You may be able to Select SAO over DAO ( ? )


Are you able to Book-Type your DVD+Rs to DVD-ROM ?

re: http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?p=25489#post25489

;)

[Webslinger]

It has something to do - with the Burner
- It usually more effects LG ( based ) Drives

Clonedvd2 works fine with a 4163b here (except for the known jitter issues at 16x, but that has nothing to do with Clonedvd2).

What LG models are you aware of that are affected?

[Free DVD Coasters]

Have attached new cable for the ASUS. Everything works fine, just doesn't like to burn DVD-r.
Luckily I bought a new stack of DVD-r's in case it was a just a dud batch the first time, you can never have too many drink coasters!!!

[Webslinger]

The problem remains.

Do steps 3 and 4 from here (http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=1559) please. Please note that step 4 actually requires you to post information.

Bought some new TDK DVD-r 16x, but the problem is still there.

There are some pretty terrible TDKs being sold in general stores like Costco (not officially "b grade", but essentially the same thing). Try Maxell Plus, Maxell Broadcast Quality, Verbatim, or Taiyo Yuden (premium)

[shannon90210]

Clonedvd2 works fine with a 4163b here (except for the known jitter issues at 16x, but that has nothing to do with Clonedvd2).

What LG models are you aware of that are affected?

My [F] HP DVD Writer 640b E223 (Ide)(LG)
will Completely Lock-Up
You have to Close CloneDVD2 - through the Task Manager
- to even get the Tray to open
The Discs I've burned - with this result - were Burned and Finalized
- and They played Fine :confused:

I can't remember if I even tried with my
[E] MAD DOG MD-16X3DVD9-8X 1.F3 (Ide)
It's been awhile since I've even burned a -R


Now with the VSO engine
- Almost All LGs- Freeze without the "Try SAO First" Option
- ( except the newest H42 - I think )
.... but - it occasionally effects other Brand Burners - as well

I wish I had a clue - as to why
;)

[Webslinger]

My [F] HP DVD Writer 640b E223 (Ide)(LG)
will Completely Lock-Up
You have to Close CloneDVD2 - through the Task Manager
- to even get the Tray to open
The Discs I've burned - with this result - were Burned and Finalized
- and They played Fine :confused:

Have you tried disabling the .wav? visit http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=21632&postcount=5



I wish I had a clue - as to why
;)

You've probably already done this, but do you mind if I take a look at your filters, please? (step 4 from http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=1559 )

[Webslinger]

So now I have purchased an ASUS DRW-1612BL, updated firmware.
The problem remains.

Your Asus is set to "master" on the back of the drive, and it's not slaved to anything, right?

[shannon90210]

Have you tried disabling the .wav? visit http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=21632&postcount=5


You've probably already done this, but do you mind if I take a look at your filters, please? (step 4 from http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=1559 )

I wish I still had a -R to test .... All I have are some old -RWs lying around
... and Tons of +R TYs
.wav works fine on +Rs ... I'm no where near maxed on resources
... but would try - If I had a -R

I have - a few times - Removed All Filters - and Reinstall as Needed
- Still same result


----------------------------------------------------
Filter Driver Load Order http://www.bustrace.com
----------------------------------------------------

Upper Device Filter: redbook
Device Object: HP DVD Writer 640b
Lower Class Filter: AFS2K
Lower Class Filter: ElbyDelay
Lower Class Filter: ElbyCDFL
Lower Class Filter: PxHelp20
Lower Class Filter: AnyDVD
Lower Device Filter: imapi

Driver Name: redbook.sys
File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
File Description: Redbook Audio Filter Driver
File Version: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) [5.1.2600.2180]
Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Product Version: 5.1.2600.2180 [5.1.2600.2180]
Company Name: Microsoft Corporation

Driver Name: afs2k.sys
File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
File Description: Audio File System
File Version: 3.1.20.1064 [3.1.20.0]
Product Name: AFS
Product Version: 3.1.20.7(1064) [3.1.20.0]
Company Name: Oak Technology Inc.

Driver Name: elbydelay.sys
File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
File Description: Elby Delay Lower Filter Driver
File Version: 5, 1, 0, 1 [5.1.0.1]
Product Name: CDRTools
Product Version: 5, 1, 0, 1 [5.1.0.1]
Company Name: Elaborate Bytes AG

Driver Name: elbycdfl.sys
File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
File Description: ElbyCDIO Filter Driver
File Version: 5, 2, 1, 3 [5.2.1.3]
Product Name: CloneCD
Product Version: 5, 2, 1, 3 [5.2.1.3]
Company Name: SlySoft, Inc.

Driver Name: pxhelp20.sys
File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
File Description: Px Engine Device Driver for Windows 2000/XP
File Version: 3.00.11B [3.0.11.1]
Product Name: PxHelp20
Product Version: [2.0.0.0]
Company Name: Sonic Solutions

Driver Name: anydvd.sys
File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
File Description: AnyDVD Filter Driver
File Version: 6.1.3.6 [6.1.3.6]
Product Name: AnyDVD
Product Version: 6.1.3.6 [6.1.3.6]
Company Name: SlySoft, Inc.

Driver Name: imapi.sys
File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
File Description: IMAPI Kernel Driver
File Version: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) [5.1.2600.2180]
Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Product Version: 5.1.2600.2180 [5.1.2600.2180]
Company Name: Microsoft Corporation





----------------------------------------------------
Filter Driver Load Order http://www.bustrace.com
----------------------------------------------------

Upper Device Filter: redbook
Device Object: MAD DOG MD-16X3DVD9-8X
Lower Class Filter: AFS2K
Lower Class Filter: ElbyDelay
Lower Class Filter: ElbyCDFL
Lower Class Filter: PxHelp20
Lower Class Filter: AnyDVD
Lower Device Filter: imapi

Driver Name: redbook.sys
File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
File Description: Redbook Audio Filter Driver
File Version: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) [5.1.2600.2180]
Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Product Version: 5.1.2600.2180 [5.1.2600.2180]
Company Name: Microsoft Corporation

Driver Name: afs2k.sys
File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
File Description: Audio File System
File Version: 3.1.20.1064 [3.1.20.0]
Product Name: AFS
Product Version: 3.1.20.7(1064) [3.1.20.0]
Company Name: Oak Technology Inc.

Driver Name: elbydelay.sys
File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
File Description: Elby Delay Lower Filter Driver
File Version: 5, 1, 0, 1 [5.1.0.1]
Product Name: CDRTools
Product Version: 5, 1, 0, 1 [5.1.0.1]
Company Name: Elaborate Bytes AG

Driver Name: elbycdfl.sys
File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
File Description: ElbyCDIO Filter Driver
File Version: 5, 2, 1, 3 [5.2.1.3]
Product Name: CloneCD
Product Version: 5, 2, 1, 3 [5.2.1.3]
Company Name: SlySoft, Inc.

Driver Name: pxhelp20.sys
File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
File Description: Px Engine Device Driver for Windows 2000/XP
File Version: 3.00.11B [3.0.11.1]
Product Name: PxHelp20
Product Version: [2.0.0.0]
Company Name: Sonic Solutions

Driver Name: anydvd.sys
File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
File Description: AnyDVD Filter Driver
File Version: 6.1.3.6 [6.1.3.6]
Product Name: AnyDVD
Product Version: 6.1.3.6 [6.1.3.6]
Company Name: SlySoft, Inc.

Driver Name: imapi.sys
File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
File Description: IMAPI Kernel Driver
File Version: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) [5.1.2600.2180]
Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Product Version: 5.1.2600.2180 [5.1.2600.2180]
Company Name: Microsoft Corporation

[Webslinger]

shannon90210,

Oddly, I have been seeing problems with those who happen to have Pxhelp20, but I fail to see how that could cause any issues. Redbook and imapi are required, obviously.

Given that in your case the burn seems to be locking up at the end with Clonedvd, I would take a look at disabling the .wav that plays at the end of the burn (that has caused lockups on some systems), but that doesn't necessarily explain why Clonedvd2 won't lockup when using +Rs on your system. Regardless, the sound playing is not the OP's issue.

You've tried standard controllers, right?

[Free DVD Coasters]

upper and lower filters are both REG_MULTI_SZ

[shannon90210]

You've tried standard controllers, right?

Not sure what - you're referring to
- It's all HP Stock Drivers - and Updated


I didn't mean to hi-jack the thread :o
I wish I had a DVD -R to test
I might pick up a few - next time I'm out
Now I'm Curious again

.... but for me .... I really never pursued the Issue
- as I really prefer Book-Typed +Rs better - anyway

;)

[Webslinger]

upper and lower filters are both REG_MULTI_SZ

No, use one of the programs listed please. You're not giving us the right info.

[Webslinger]

Not sure what - you're referring to


http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=1455402&postcount=3

[Webslinger]

.... but for me .... I really never pursued the Issue
- as I really prefer Book-Typed +Rs better - anyway


Yeah, sorry . . .

I see nothing wrong with your filters either. Pretty normal . . .

[Free DVD Coasters]

No, use one of the programs listed please. You're not giving us the right info.

ok sorry for delay
upperfilters= GEARAspiWDM
lowerfilters=
ElbyDelay
ElbyCDFL
AnyDVD
Pfc
PxHelp20
AFS2K

I have set the jumper to master and disconnected other dvd burner

Just in case you need more!!!

Filter Check Tool v3.4

An Upper Filter found is: GEARAspiWDM
Filterdriver properties are:


A Lower Filter found is: ElbyDelay
Filterdriver properties are:
Name: ElbyDelay
Caption: ElbyDelay
Description: ElbyDelay
AcceptPause: False
AcceptStop: True
DesktopInteract: False
DisplayName: ElbyDelay
ErrorControl: Normal
ExitCode: 0
PathName: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\ElbyDelay.sys
Version Info: 5.0.0.1
ServiceSpecificExitCode: 0
ServiceType: Kernel Driver
Started: True
StartMode: Manual
StartName:
State: Running
Status: OK
TagId: 0


A Lower Filter found is: ElbyCDFL
Filterdriver properties are:
Name: ElbyCDFL
Caption: ElbyCDFL
Description: ElbyCDFL
AcceptPause: False
AcceptStop: True
DesktopInteract: False
DisplayName: ElbyCDFL
ErrorControl: Normal
ExitCode: 0
PathName: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\ElbyCDFL.sys
Version Info: 4.3.3.1
ServiceSpecificExitCode: 0
ServiceType: Kernel Driver
Started: True
StartMode: Manual
StartName:
State: Running
Status: OK
TagId: 0


A Lower Filter found is: AnyDVD
Filterdriver properties are:
Name: AnyDVD
Caption: AnyDVD
Description: AnyDVD
AcceptPause: False
AcceptStop: True
DesktopInteract: False
DisplayName: AnyDVD
ErrorControl: Normal
ExitCode: 0
PathName: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\AnyDVD.sys
Version Info: 4.0.4.1
ServiceSpecificExitCode: 0
ServiceType: Kernel Driver
Started: True
StartMode: Manual
StartName:
State: Running
Status: OK
TagId: 0


A Lower Filter found is: Pfc
Filterdriver properties are:
Name: pfc
Caption: Padus ASPI Shell
Description: Padus ASPI Shell
AcceptPause: False
AcceptStop: True
DesktopInteract: False
DisplayName: Padus ASPI Shell
ErrorControl: Normal
ExitCode: 0
PathName: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\pfc.sys
Version Info: 2.5.0.204
ServiceSpecificExitCode: 0
ServiceType: Kernel Driver
Started: True
StartMode: Manual
StartName:
State: Running
Status: OK
TagId: 0


A Lower Filter found is: PxHelp20
Filterdriver properties are:
Name: PxHelp20
Caption: PxHelp20
Description: PxHelp20
AcceptPause: False
AcceptStop: True
DesktopInteract: False
DisplayName: PxHelp20
ErrorControl: Normal
ExitCode: 0
PathName: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\PxHelp20.sys
Version Info: 2.2.62.0
ServiceSpecificExitCode: 0
ServiceType: Kernel Driver
Started: True
StartMode: Boot
StartName:
State: Running
Status: OK
TagId: 7


A Lower Filter found is: AFS2K
Filterdriver properties are:
Name: AFS2K
Caption: AFS2k
Description: AFS2k
AcceptPause: False
AcceptStop: True
DesktopInteract: False
DisplayName: AFS2k
ErrorControl: Normal
ExitCode: 0
PathName: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\AFS2K.sys
Version Info: 3.1.21.0
ServiceSpecificExitCode: 0
ServiceType: Kernel Driver
Started: True
StartMode: System
StartName:
State: Running
Status: OK
TagId: 1

[Webslinger]

upperfilters= GEARAspiWDM

Part of the Gear burning engine. Comes with iTunes and Drive Image 7.0.


Pfc

PFC - Padus ASPI Shell filter driver. Comes with Nero 6.x/7.x.x if you choose to install it, comes with WinDVD Creator, it comes with DiscJuggler and it comes with NVIDIA Purevideo decoder.

PxHelp20

Part of Sonic Burning engine, it's made by prassi/veritas and licensed to Sonic. Comes with Winamp, 1click DivxToDVD and (older versoins of) Digion Audio.

AFS2K

AFS2K - CD-Rom Driver by OAK Software and HP Memories Disc.

I have set the jumper to master and disconnected other dvd burner

You don't need to disconnect your other burner.

O.k, your filters look fine to me (or at least, I know of no known issues with them).

Are you using an 80 pin cable? Ensure it's attached appropriately (not connected as slave).


Also, try this: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=1455402&postcount=3

[Free DVD Coasters]

yep the cable is set in master position - ie the end one

unsure of 80 pin? but is standard IDE

[Free DVD Coasters]

should I check anything in CMOS?

when I review the driver for dvd player it says it is the latest version for windows
version 5.1.2535 from 2001
Does this sound correct? shouldn't it refer to a newer one

[Webslinger]

yep the cable is set in master position - ie the end one

unsure of 80 pin? but is standard IDE

Try http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=1455402&postcount=3

And if it still doesn't work, then I really have no other suggestions other than trying recommended blank media. You can also try what shannon90210 suggested, and use +R media instead (booktype it to "dvd-rom").

Don't burn at 16x if you're using 16x rated media (try burning a little slower); try disabling other programs that may be running in the background while you're burning (close out of email, web browsing, etc.).

[Webslinger]

unsure of 80 pin? but is standard IDE

visit http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/confCable80-c.html

[Free DVD Coasters]

Thanks for your help

[Webslinger]

should I check anything in CMOS?

no

shouldn't it refer to a newer one

Nothing to be overly concerned about.

[Free DVD Coasters]

do you have a link so I can double check the jumper position

[Webslinger]

do you have a link so I can double check the jumper position

I don't. Is it not labeled on the back (usually on top close to the back) of the drive or in the manual?

[Free DVD Coasters]

Ok, and thanks again
Me feel a format coming on

[Webslinger]

Me feel a format coming on

Uhh, I see no reason to do that. Get some recommended blank media first.
Or try your burner in another system.

[Free DVD Coasters]

solves most problems, but yeah I shall try the easy steps first

[shannon90210]

do you have a link so I can double check the jumper position


this should help ;
163

re: http://support.necam.com/Optical/NEC_DVD_CD_quickstartguide.pdf

;)

[shannon90210]

You've tried standard controllers, right?
Had the "Ultras' installed ..... Installed the Standard

at first burn ..... I seem to be getting a faster avg burn rate ....
I'll have to keep an eye on that ... 8) - to confirm

I'll pick up some -Rs - to see if it makes any Difference ... You never know

thanks .....
8)

[Webslinger]

Had the "Ultras' installed ..... Installed the Standard

at first burn ..... I seem to be getting a faster avg burn rate ....
I'll have to keep an eye on that ... 8) - to confirm

I'll pick up some -Rs - to see if it makes any Difference ... You never know

thanks .....
8)


I don't know if it's related, but on an older AMD dual core system (and I've now reached the point where in August I'm going to switch my girlfriend's system to intel quad core when the Q6600 drops to about $270-$300 U.S., because I'm sick and tired of drivers/hotfixes, using "set affinity", etc. to just get certain games working properly with AMD's dual cores on XP even . . . eventually I started using runfirst.exe to solve these issues for her; I just don't enjoy having to explain how to fix these quirks over and over; conversely, Intel's Conroes work perfectly without additional tweaking on my notebook, so . . .), I was experiencing issues when I had other programs running in the background and also burning with Clonedvd2 at the same time (the famous write 10 error . . .).

Anyway, I'd be interested in whether dvd-rs now work for you (you might also want to try disabling the .wav that plays at the end).

[oldjoe]

do you have a link so I can double check the jumper position

If your PC is a prebuilt, the jumpers are most likely set to CS(Cable Select). The new Asus drive would have been set to Master from the factory.

[Free DVD Coasters]

Jumpers set to correct position - thanks Shannon
IDE Bus reinstalled
The problem refuses to leave without more of a fight.
My thoughts are that an option to write to DVD-R has been switched off somewhere - this is beyond me as to where or if that is even a possibility.
A software compatibility error has become entrenched and no amount of cleaning or reinstalling has thusly proved successful in removing it, causing my current DVD-R burn dilema.
I will be trying Verbatim DVD+R before the week ends.
This will be followed (if unsuccesful) by my faithful friend the format. Always guaranteed to rid ones PC of those constant windows niggles and speed up the computer to 'Blimey - thats quick'.
Thanks to all for your input

[maximz2005]

Hey guys,

I had the same problem recently. I have a Sony VHS to DVD burner and I use Staples DVD-R disks. I burned some of my cassetes and tried to play the DVD. On the burner, before I took the CD out, I tried it, everything worked fine. Then, I put it into my PC and after a while, it finally loaded. It said free space: 0 bytes. used space: 0 bytes. I went into properties and saw that it said, "File System: RAW".

I found the fix right away. Being a dumbass :), I accidentally forgot to finalize the DVD. If you have the same burner, you go into System Menu --> Finalize.
That helped. After that, my PC played all my CDs.

Hope I helped!:),
-Maximz2005