Rip with ImgBurn With AnyDVDHD Running In The Background?

[bbanderic]

Hi All,

I'm curious, can you use ImgBurn to rip Blu-ray and DVD's to ISO with AnyDVDHD running in the background to remove the copy/structure protections. Are there any limitations by doing it this way and will it do the job just as well as using AnyDVDHD by itself?

I'd like to use the above method because ImgBurn can create .md5 and MDS files along with the ISO, all in one step.

Thanks

[mike_r]

Blu-Ray yes no problem. This works sometimes with DVDs but you have to consider the possible structural protection : in this case you might need to rip to hard drive 1st and then create ISO (or use CloneDVD to create the ISO)

[bbanderic]

Blu-Ray yes no problem. This works sometimes with DVDs but you have to consider the possible structural protection : in this case you might need to rip to hard drive 1st and then create ISO (or use CloneDVD to create the ISO)

Thanks for the response Mike. I don't have CloneDVD, don't think I would use it enough for the price I would have to pay for it.

So Blu-ray, no problem, good. As for DVD, you're saying that if the DVD has structure protection that AnyDVD wouldn't remove it properly or completely if used with ImgBurn?

My only issue with using AnyDVDHD by itself, for dual layer DVD anyways, is that I would need an MDS file to preserve the original layer break if I were to burn to disc later on and I don't believe AnyDVDHD provides one where ImgBurn does. Any ideas?

[James]

Thanks for the response Mike. I don't have CloneDVD, don't think I would use it enough for the price I would have to pay for it.


You really should reconsider. CloneDVD is a very powerful tool. ;)

[bbanderic]

You really should reconsider. CloneDVD is a very powerful tool. ;)

I'm sure it is as Slysoft makes GREAT products and the support is unmatched, I don't know what I'd do without AnyDVDHD.

As for CloneDVD, as far as I can tell it does basically what DVD Shrink used to do, which is good. However, I don't think it supports Blu-ray which is a must as I'm sort of moving away from DVD.

Right now, I'm backing up all of my DVD's and Blu-rays to external hard drives to use with a media player down the road. I'm doing "full" backups, special features, audio options and all. Not really intersted in stripping anything away, except for copy/structure protections of course.

Curious, does CloneDVD create MDS files automatically when ripping dual layer DVD's to ISO?

[mike_r]

As for DVD, you're saying that if the DVD has structure protection that AnyDVD wouldn't remove it properly or completely if used with ImgBurn?

If you use the AnyDVD rip to hard drive function then the protection is removed (essentially the DVD remastered on the fly). If you use ImgBurn with AnyDVD in the background then you'll miss out the remastering and end up with a useless .ISO file.

[fast eddie]

If you are at the final stages of back-up and ready to burn to a blank disk, and are using Imgburn to burn to a blank disk, you don't want anything running in the background (if possible) this would slow down your burn speed unless you have a very powerful high resources, high end CPU computer.

Ripping, downloads, burning I make an effort to have ALL AVAILABLE resources and not doing two things at once.

:agree:

[bbanderic]

If you are at the final stages of back-up and ready to burn to a blank disk, and are using Imgburn to burn to a blank disk, you don't want anything running in the background (if possible) this would slow down your burn speed unless you have a very powerful high resources, high end CPU computer.

Ripping, downloads, burning I make an effort to have ALL AVAILABLE resources and not doing two things at once.

:agree:

I use ImgBurn to burn all of my Blu-ray and DVD's, I always make sure that AnyDVDHD is disabled when doing so.

[James]

Curious, does CloneDVD create MDS files automatically when ripping dual layer DVD's to ISO?

It does something similar, .dvd files.

[Pelvis Popcan]

Very misleading information posted in this thread.

An ISO file created with ImgBurn is NOT useless by far. Saying that it is is a grossly inaccurate statement.

If a DVD contains no structural protection, then an ISO file created with ImgBurn will be perfectly fine, same as Blu-Ray.

AnyDVD patches structural protection on a DVD on the fly. When you have a DVD with structural protection, it will work fine in any software player or a set top player. It will also work with SlySoft's tools and some other third party tools as well. But AnyDVD's "on the fly" patching of structural protection cannnot create a compliant ISO file that will work with all third party tools. So in this case, you have to use CloneDVD to copy the DVD to the hard drive first. CloneDVD is a remastering tool which will re-create the structure of the VIDEO_TS folder so that it is now compliant and it should work with all third party tools.

When you make an ISO file with ImgBurn, you are created a 100% bit-for-bit mirror of the DVD as seen by your computer with AnyDVD runnng in the background. It retains all information on the original disc, including UDF metadata, DVD-ROM contents, original file and mastering dates, the original disc label, and original disc indentification data. When you use CloneDVD, it remasters the disc, but only the VIDEO_TS folder. You lose original UDF metadata, DVD-ROM contents, dates, etc.

Again, the following things are equal:

- Original DVD in drive with AnyDVD running
- ISO file created with ImgBurn of original DVD with AnyDVD running

Even if a disc has structural protection and you made an ISO with ImgBurn and you found you later wanted to use a third party tool on it that won't work due to structural protection, you could mount the ISO with Virtual Clone Drive (freeware) and then use CloneDVD on it first.

I recommend that you create an ISO when:

- You want as close a copy to the original disc as possible
- You are using dual layer blanks to burn dual layer original DVD's
- You are using single layer blanks to burn single layer original DVD's
- You are using SlySoft software

I recommend you remaster (use CloneDVD) when:

- You don't care about a copy being as close as possible to the original
- You want the movie only
- You are using single layer blanks to burn dual layer original DVD's
- You are using third party software to remaster DVD's (DVD Shrink for example)

By the way, I left this out to make it simple, but:

- In AnyDVD, "Rip to Image" will accomplish the same thing that ImgBurn will... create an ISO file that is a mirror of the original disc with AnyDVD running.
- In AnyDVD "Rip Video DVD to Harddisk" will accomplish the same thing that CloneDVD will... remaster the VIDEO_TS folder so that the DVD structure is reauthored so that it is now compliant with third party tools. It actually uses code from CloneDVD. (But doesn't have the options that CloneDVD does to remove content or re-compress video.)

For the life of me I cannot understand the outright disdain... hostility even... at the thought of making an ISO file of a DVD with structural protection. The only disadvantage that I can see is that it won't be compliant with some third party tools. But as I mentioned, you can fix the ISO if later on if needed!

I use AnyDVD to make backups only and I always use dual layer media when the original is dual layer. I therefore always make ISO's. I have never had one that doesn't play, or, doesn't play without requiring an AnyDVD update first!