BLu-Ray CloneDVD?! [Archive]

penskeford

4th April 2011, 22:42

Please, for the love of god, make a version of clonedvd that isblu-ray compatible!

I'm so tired of handbrake, avs, and dvdfab, and ripbot264.

Thank You, and have a pleasant tomorrow.:rock:

FurryGuy

5th April 2011, 04:00

Ch3vr0n

5th April 2011, 05:37

You do know that BD-Rebuilder and AnyDVD together replace all the ones you just mentioned, they do a better job and BDRB is free

Carborundum

5th April 2011, 06:19

You do know that BD-Rebuilder and AnyDVD together replace all the ones you just mentioned, they do a better job and BDRB is free

I'd say AnyDVD + Handbrake is generally superior to AnyDVD + BDRB, because Handbrake is stable, standalone software whereas BDRB is in beta and requires ffdshow, haali and avisynth to work.

As Handbrake and BDRB both use x264, encoding time and quality should be pretty much identical (I haven't actually tested this).

Adbear

5th April 2011, 10:59

I'd say AnyDVD + Handbrake is generally superior to AnyDVD + BDRB, because Handbrake is stable, standalone software whereas BDRB is in beta and requires ffdshow, haali and avisynth to work.

As Handbrake and BDRB both use x264, encoding time and quality should be pretty much identical (I haven't actually tested this).
Not if you're wanting to shrink the Blu-ray down with no loss of disc structure, then BD rebuilder is what you need

Carborundum

5th April 2011, 11:34

Not if you're wanting to shrink the Blu-ray down with no loss of disc structure, then BD rebuilder is what you need
True, if the intention is to burn the movie to a disc, Handbrake is pretty much useless. It's very capable if all you want to do is to watch the movie on your HTPC, laptop, tablet or smartphone, however.

Recycle

5th April 2011, 11:55

Please, for the love of god, make a version of clonedvd that isblu-ray compatible!

I'm so tired of handbrake, avs, and dvdfab, and ripbot264.

Thank You, and have a pleasant tomorrow.:rock:

Well it would be good to know if your keeping the original format or converting it to another format just yellling BD compatible without knowing what your doing doesn't help either. I would say if you want to keep the format go with Imgburn and Anydvd HD make BD to iso and then burned back with imgburn so the format will still BD movie format.

phew

10th April 2011, 15:21

Slysoft IS working on a Blu-ray solution, as pointed out in numerous other threads.

Yes, for the last 3 years. It's getting old the "working on it" part.

Adbear

10th April 2011, 15:28

It's getting old having people over exaggerate on how long it's been

FurryGuy

10th April 2011, 23:10

Yes, for the last 3 years. It's getting old the "working on it" part.

If you are so annoyed at how long it is taking Slysoft to produce their solution, go and create the program yourself.

pcunite

20th April 2011, 21:58

The software that SlySoft develops is very much appreciated. What they have accomplished has beat many odds. Thank you gentleman for helping legitamate HTPC setups.

BillieBog

25th April 2011, 13:49

:bowdown: :rock: SlySoft, please take whatever time you need to do develop a BR-Clone because I know that when you do IT WILL WORK.

Thanks,

phew

26th April 2011, 13:48

I am not smart enough to write the sofware. But at least I don't write that I a working on it. Then write it will be available "soon". It has been 3 years, I don't care what you think. 3 years is not soon. If there is no market, or if it is impossible to do, just say so and I'll move on.

mike_r

26th April 2011, 13:56

I guess you can judge how easy it is by the number of similar products available. zero, zilch, nill.

Adbear

26th April 2011, 14:00

And once again he's wrong, it hasn't been 3 years, and he's obviously not able to read and get that fact right.

mike20021969

26th April 2011, 14:11

it hasn't been 3 years
It is almost 3 years since SamuriHL suggested a new CloneBD product :D
http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=111398&postcount=2

And it is 2 and a half years ago since SlySoft Development Team member Fernando mentioned it:
http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=135131&postcount=8

Fernando is developer of the following products...
SlySoft Developer - CloneDVD Mobile, CloneBD, CloneBD Mobile, SlyPlayer

Adbear

26th April 2011, 14:14

Even that wasn't 3 years yet, and it's not an official announcement, just speculation

mike20021969

26th April 2011, 14:25

Something from James on CloneBD from 2009 here:
http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=228189&postcount=2

RClark

26th April 2011, 15:16

2 1/2 years is not 3 years! Not even close (using Adbear math) :).

Adbear

26th April 2011, 15:16

That's not even 2 years old

Adbear

26th April 2011, 15:17

2 1/2 years is not 3 years! Not even close (using Adbear math) :).
2.5 years is not 3 years using anyone's math

Erkunder

27th April 2011, 10:02

2.5 years is not 3 years using anyone's math

Yes, it is. This is called "rounding (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rounding)". :p

Charlie

27th April 2011, 10:11

I'd rather get a good working version beta than to have one released that is far from par. Meaning if it was far from par this forum would be ridiculed with CloneBD threads. Trust me though I want this as much as the next user here.

Adbear

27th April 2011, 11:32

Yes, it is. This is called "rounding (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rounding)". :pNot really, 2.5 is still 2.5 and when using rounding you can round up or down so I could counter by saying it's 2 both of which would be wrong

calcu007

27th April 2011, 13:14

Not really, 2.5 is still 2.5 and when using rounding you can round up or down so I could counter by saying it's 2 both of which would be wrong
YOu even dont know rounding. In this case 2.5 round up to 3, not 2.

Ch3vr0n

27th April 2011, 13:52

neither do you :p 2.5 is a round number. Like rounded down from 2.51 :p

Adbear

27th April 2011, 14:18

YOu even dont know rounding. In this case 2.5 round up to 3, not 2.
No, you don't know rounding, you can round up or down, there's no set rule about rounding, just because most people round up from 2.5 doesn't mean you have to, it all depends on the circumstances.
But back to the original comment, 2.5 years is not 3 years, it's 6 months away

Erkunder

28th April 2011, 02:35

No, you don't know rounding, you can round up or down, there's no set rule about rounding, just because most people round up from 2.5 doesn't mean you have to, it all depends on the circumstances.

So you admit that 2.5 is 3 according to some widely used rounding operation using 1 significant figure?

But back to the original comment, 2.5 years is not 3 years, it's 6 months away

In order to irreversibly hijack this thread, I tried to calculate it properly: Between Fernando's (http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=135131&postcount=8) and mike20021969's posting (http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=308857&postcount=16), there are 1349208 minutes, which is 2.565284 Gregorian years, which is rounded to 3 years according to anyone's math, and not 2 years (one significant figure). It's not even 2.5 years using two significant figures, but 2.6 years. Thus, no need to discuss rounding up or down at .5. Finally, 3 years is better than 2 years, 2.6 years is better than 2.5 years. And 2.5 years overstates the precision (suggesting two significant digits), so 3 years is better than 2.5 years.

jokesonme

28th April 2011, 04:07

For Christ's sake you lot get a life :bang:

Adbear

28th April 2011, 05:18

I have to agree, you need to get a life, it hasn't been 3 years, and when he first started posting about it being 3 years was at the end of January. If you want to make a statement about the time that has such a huge error factor then fine, but it's way off from being accurate

Erkunder

28th April 2011, 06:10

I don't even know why you're continuing to go on about rounding. it can still be at 2.9999 recurring and you can round down, it all depends on what the circumstances are I would be just as valid to say I want to round to the nearest even number, to the nearest odd single decimal place or any other number of criteria. So rounding can be used to skew the figures whichever way you want to bias the outcome. It only makes it 3 years if you're rounding up which is a convention and not a rule.

This is why I'm continuing to go on about rounding: As long as you are dealing with less digits than what the highest precision "measurement" allows, 1349208 minutes or 2.565284 years, you are dealing with rounded values. If you don't like rounding, then 2.5 is as false as 3 or 2 or anything else except maybe 2.565284 itself. These 2.565284 years happen to round to 3 years for many -- probably most -- used scientific rounding schemes with regard to one significant figure. Which means that t = 3 years without further information on precision implies that t ∈ [2.5 years ; 3.5 years[ (for .5 rounding up), which is obviously true. This way of rounding is, as you said, a convention -- for a good reason. If you -- for some special reason -- prefer rounding _down_ to two significant figures, then t = 2.5 years implies that t ∈ [2.5 years ; 2.6 years[, which is also obviously true but does not invalidate the first statement. Luckily, lazy computers are the sole circumstances that usually justify rounding _down_only_ ;)

No matter what you want to say it's not been 3 years and he's been saying 3 years since January. It'll be ready when it's ready and no amount of whining is going to make it happen any quicker
And the 2 posts you reference to are not official statements, one is SamuriHL making guesses and he even states that and the other is Fernando making an offhand comment, neither of which are official announcements that they were working on anything at that point

I was referring to the time between Fernando's and mike20021969's (not SamuriHL's) postings (which first mentions the 2 1/2 years). If you tell me wich time period you refer to, I will try to figure out for you if it can be called "3 years" using a reasonable rounding scheme (i.e. not rounding down without considering lower digits :D ). This offer is valid only as long as I haven't got a life.

At least, we can agree on whining not being helpful.

Adbear

28th April 2011, 06:27

It's still not valid to round up to 3 years, at least my estimation of 2.5 years is much closer to the truth than being over 5 months out and gives a much smaller margin of error. And when you consider he's been saying the same thing for 3 months he's been rounding up well over even the normal rounding up convention

Erkunder

28th April 2011, 06:43

It's still not valid to round up to 3 years,

It's still not vaild to round 2.565284 to 3? Dammit, I will have to correct my formulary! And Wikipedia.

at least my estimation of 2.5 years is much closer to the truth than being over 5 months out and gives a much smaller margin of error.

Your estimation of t = 2.5 years might be closer to the truth, but nevertheless only true for your _rounding_down_, which means t ∈ [2.5 years ; 2.6 years[. For, er, more common rounding, it would mean t ∈ [2.45 years ; 2.55 years[, which would simply be false, no matter how close to the truth.

And when you consider he's been saying the same thing for 3 months he's been rounding up well over even the normal rounding up convention

I still haven't got a life, so if you rendered the time period in question more precisely, I'd check that for you.

Adbear

28th April 2011, 06:52

Yes you're right, you don't have a life

Erkunder

28th April 2011, 06:59

Yes you're right, you don't have a life

I was exaggerating. Just a lazy week at work and the urge to know it all. And what is your motivation? ;)

cardzetc

28th April 2011, 09:30

Not if you're wanting to shrink the Blu-ray down with no loss of disc structure, then BD rebuilder is what you need

Adbear
sorry, but I can't find a specific thread for this question. I see mentioned in your response about BD rebuilder fitting a larger GB count to a smaller GB disc without losing any detail. I know Anydvd & Clonedvd resize automatically, but I am just getting started with Blu-ray and right now am only using copy to harddisc/imgburn. This is easy but, when you copy to disc and you only have 31GB you have to use a 50GB disc(gets expensive). Please tell me more about how to use with BD rebuilder, or get set up the easiest way with BD rebuilder. I'm not well versed with a lot of the software like most users, so some tutoring would be well appreciated, thank you.

Ch3vr0n

28th April 2011, 09:45

all the info you need about bd-rebuilder is right here http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716

Adbear

28th April 2011, 09:58

I was exaggerating. Just a lazy week at work and the urge to know it all. And what is your motivation? ;)
keeps me from having to see or hear anything about the Royal Wedding

RBBrittain

28th April 2011, 13:39

keeps me from having to see or hear anything about the Royal WeddingCan't use that excuse much longer; the wedding is tomorrow. ;)

Adbear

28th April 2011, 14:31

LOL, I doubt it'll stop being on the news for at least aweek

mike20021969

28th April 2011, 14:49

This thread needs either locking or a good spring cleaning.
It's gone completely mad.

whatever_gong82

28th April 2011, 19:17

This thread needs either locking or a good spring cleaning.
It's gone completely mad.

Don't lock it, I'm having a great laugh at all the silliness!!!

:D

RClark

28th April 2011, 19:33

It's still not valid to round up
If this were a discussion about the size of a certain part of your anatomy... I bet you would round up. :agree:

calcu007

28th April 2011, 20:43

This guy, Adbear needs to go back to school and take rounding mathematics classes.

FurryGuy

29th April 2011, 00:16

keeps me from having to see or hear anything about the Royal Wedding

Which is why I am backing up a bunch of DVDs so I have a lot of things to watch instead of regular TV. Especially the news which will invariably get all weepy about the Royal Wedding. Bleh!

Too bad there isn't a vomit emoticon, it surely might get extensive use when talking about the UK Nuptials.

FurryGuy

29th April 2011, 00:16

This guy, Adbear needs to go back to school and take rounding mathematics classes.

Just get a better computer and never have to round ever again.

calcu007

29th April 2011, 02:07

Just get a better computer and never have to round ever again.
??? what???

FurryGuy

29th April 2011, 14:18

??? what???

Why????? Who???? Where???? How????

To Err is Human. To Really Foul Things Up Requires a Computer.

Adbear

29th April 2011, 14:50

This guy, Adbear needs to go back to school and take rounding mathematics classes.
No I don't, you need to go back to school and learn all the different ways of rounding as there are many as I already stated and are pointed out in the wikilink posted earlier. Just because you want to round up to 3 from2.5-2.6 doesn't make it any more valid than me rounding down to 2.5 as 2.5 is closer to 2.56 (as was pointed out is the actual figure at that time) than 3. It's also just as valid for me to say it was 2 depending on the rounding criteria. If you'd learnt all about rounding you'd know there's no set rule which I've already pointed out multiple times in this thread

Adbear

29th April 2011, 14:51

If this were a discussion about the size of a certain part of your anatomy... I bet you would round up. :agree:
Nope, don't need too

calcu007

29th April 2011, 19:49

No I don't, you need to go back to school and learn all the different ways of rounding as there are many as I already stated and are pointed out in the wikilink posted earlier. Just because you want to round up to 3 from2.5-2.6 doesn't make it any more valid than me rounding down to 2.5 as 2.5 is closer to 2.56 (as was pointed out is the actual figure at that time) than 3. It's also just as valid for me to say it was 2 depending on the rounding criteria. If you'd learnt all about rounding you'd know there's no set rule which I've already pointed out multiple times in this thread

Yes, there are rounding rules. Search again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rounding

Adbear

30th April 2011, 01:24

I didn't say there were no rules, I said there was no set rule (go back and actually read what I said), it's only by convention that you use round up and not round down, unless you state before hand which rule you want to use it's just as valid to round down as it is to round up. You can continue to nitpick and say I don't know anything about rounding but to claim I don't just because you use a convention and not a set rule when I pointed this out in my earlier posts means you know less about it than I do. It even states in the wiki post you linked to that it's purely by convention that people round up which I've already pointed out multiple times and you've decided to ignore.

udubdawg

13th June 2011, 19:21

Slysoft IS working on a Blu-ray solution, as pointed out in numerous other threads.

Right.....

Ch3vr0n

13th June 2011, 20:56

Right.....

If you don't believe it thats your problem, but they are

udubdawg

14th June 2011, 18:27

If you don't believe it thats your problem, but they are

If it is just a standard blu-ray burning software.... both 25gb & 50 gb....
should have been out least two years ago, at a minimum....

However, if they are adding the capability of burning the defunct HD DVD to a Blu ray disc and converting PAL to NTSC and vicea-versa, and burning standard DVD box sets to one Blu ray disk .... then yes it is worth a four plus year wait.... otherwise, no.... I'm looking at other software now......:clap:

Ch3vr0n

14th June 2011, 18:30

If it is just a standard blu-ray burning software.... both 25gb & 50 gb....
should have been out least two years ago, at a minimum....

However, if they are adding the capability of burning the defunct HD DVD to a Blu ray disc and converting PAL to NTSC and vicea-versa, and burning standard DVD box sets to one Blu ray disk .... then yes it is worth a four plus year wait.... otherwise, no.... I'm looking at other software now......:clap:

It won't be just "burn" software. From earlier post (not all of them confirmed) it will also have the ability to shrink BD-50's to BD25, remove cinavia, ... and a ton more

udubdawg

15th June 2011, 01:26

It won't be just "burn" software. From earlier post (not all of them confirmed) it will also have the ability to shrink BD-50's to BD25, remove cinavia, ... and a ton more
so, what is the current ETA? I own everything they make except the enterprise edition of game jackal .... But I have given up and spent $100 bucks on other software.....

Adbear

15th June 2011, 02:34

The current eta is 'when it's ready' if they had a set date they'd have posted it up already.
Unlike other software who just rip off others free work from Doom9, Slysoft are writing it from scratch which means a lot more work to get things right. Continually asking the same question won't get it written any faster.
Also it's very unlikely that it'll be able to remove Cinavia when it's released, I suspect that will be added at a later date as the priority (from what I've read posted on here by SlySoft) is to get the core program up and running along with the Slyplayer

udubdawg

15th June 2011, 14:13

udubdawg

15th June 2011, 14:16

mike20021969

15th June 2011, 14:20

by the time the software comes out
The release of CloneBD wont affect you now, will it?
I have given up and spent $100 bucks on other software
PS How did you know it would cost $100? :D

James

15th June 2011, 14:25

Some of the best software in history was built on top of Public domain CPM software.... if you have a good base to start with, why re-invent the wheel?
:doh:

Very simple: because it is violates open source licenses like the GPL. This is both unethical and illegal. Of course, slapping together a program based on libavcodec, libformat, ... will give you a competitive advantage. But this doesn't make it right.