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matthew
20th June 2007, 18:19
For those interested... there is a beta version of the next release (v2.9.18.555) here.
http://sandbox.slysoft.com/gj/SetupGameJackal.exe

Please post feedback and/or issues in this forum.

G-Klav
20th June 2007, 18:45
Well, I installed it, rebooted and then tried to make a new profile.

Same error message from the game ("Insert the CD"), but at least no bluescreen and GJ did some profile managing afterwards, after the game (Age of Empires II The Conquerors) had failed to load and just before it deactivated the profile.

So slowly but steadily, we're getting there...

Webslinger
20th June 2007, 20:55
Are there any beta release notes? What's changed?

Rats. I was hoping http://sandbox.slysoft.com/beta/changes_gamejackal.txt would work.

matthew
20th June 2007, 22:36
Are there any beta release notes? What's changed?

Rats. I was hoping http://sandbox.slysoft.com/beta/changes_gamejackal.txt would work.

See Programs->SlySoft->Game Jackal->Readme

Webslinger
20th June 2007, 22:58
See Programs->SlySoft->Game Jackal->Readme

Thank you :bowdown:

Webslinger
20th June 2007, 23:39
Unfortunately, profiles created from the desktop still don't work properly and point to maplom_sc.exe. I also notice a difference in scanning when creating a profile (nwn2.exe in this case) from the desktop as opposed to directly within Game Jackal. I'm skeptical that the new profile created from an icon on the desktop would work even if I did change the shortcut properties from maplom_sc.exe to GameJackal_cl.exe.

Edit: Well, I don't have to be skeptical anymore; it doesn't work, as suspected.

New profiles created from within Game Jackal do work.

Loonie
21st June 2007, 02:36
After an uberquick test: My Oblivion profile now asks me for the disk, although if I select 'retry', it then loads. Remaking the profile might have an effect, although I only have access to my laptop and no disks at the moment, owing to moving.

I need to test C&C3 to see how it handles SuckuROM now.

khlb
21st June 2007, 13:44
Still no success with Tomb Raider - Anniversary, Collectors Edition, English
(For Distribution Outside the UK Only)

Result: "Conflict with Emulation Software detected.
Please have a look at http://www.securom.com/message.asp?m=emu&c=13000 for further, more detailed information."

Created a new TR-A profile form scratch - using the default suggestions offered.

visit http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=36112&postcount=24 for specific information

matthew
21st June 2007, 18:32
Unfortunately, profiles created from the desktop still don't work properly and point to maplom_sc.exe. I also notice a difference in scanning when creating a profile (nwn2.exe in this case) from the desktop as opposed to directly within Game Jackal. I'm skeptical that the new profile created from an icon on the desktop would work even if I did change the shortcut properties from maplom_sc.exe to GameJackal_cl.exe.

Edit: Well, I don't have to be skeptical anymore; it doesn't work, as suspected.

New profiles created from within Game Jackal do work.

This is a different issue to the one I mentioned was fixed. This has been fixed in v2.9.18.560 (should be available for download soon).

Webslinger
21st June 2007, 18:33
This is a different issue to the one I mentioned was fixed. This has been fixed in v2.9.18.560 (should be available for download soon).

Woot! :clap:

matthew
21st June 2007, 21:17
This is a different issue to the one I mentioned was fixed. This has been fixed in v2.9.18.560 (should be available for download soon).

New version
http://sandbox.slysoft.com/gj/SetupGameJackal_2.9.18.560.exe

Imperceptible
21st June 2007, 21:21
Thanks for the update, installing now.

Changes:

Release v2.9.18.560 - release
* Fixed an issue that was causing profiles created with the "Convert to a Game Jackal profile" option to point an incorrect exe.
* Minor updates.

Webslinger
21st June 2007, 22:01
.560 is working well as far as Neverwinter Nights 2 goes. I created a new profile from my desktop--and it works! :clap:

Now I can remove one of the stickies!

SHARKMEAT
21st June 2007, 22:49
I have a question..Why does it still show v2.8.17.500, in the Update Version Info section of GJ after I updated to the latest verison ??.....CHEERS

Webslinger
21st June 2007, 22:53
I have a question..Why does it still show v2.8.17.500, in the Update Version Info section of GJ after I updated to the latest verison ??.....CHEERS

Weird . . when I click "Update Version Info" in Game Jackal, nothing happens.

DonCarlos
22nd June 2007, 10:22
Oh great Game Jackal now has Vista32 support.That sounds for me vista64 is on the way right?lets say net week:D:D:D

d.chatten
22nd June 2007, 10:32
Weird . . when I click "Update Version Info" in Game Jackal, nothing happens.I have the same issue with this new beta version 2.9.18.560.

EDIT: This issue is also pressent in the release/none beta version 2.9.18.550.

roachgod
22nd June 2007, 10:43
Hey, this is a beta version, a quick-fix. Why expect all features of the official releases? It works anyway.

d.chatten
22nd June 2007, 10:53
Hey, this is a beta version, a quick-fix. Why expect all features of the official releases? It works anyway.I have just checked the release/none beta version 2.9.18.550 and it seems that this issue is also pressent.

Webslinger
22nd June 2007, 11:46
Hey, this is a beta version, a quick-fix. Why expect all features of the official releases? It works anyway.

Because Sharkmeat seems to indicate that feature does something (it's the only reason I mentioned it) . . .

khlb
22nd June 2007, 12:56
No this is really awesome. 8)

With this beta - 2.9.18.560 - Tomb Raider - Anniversary works for me! :clap:


My results:
http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=36478&postcount=13

:D

evlncrn8
22nd June 2007, 13:55
you didnt do anything different like disconnect ide drives/starforce nightmare etc?

Webslinger
22nd June 2007, 14:10
you didnt do anything different like disconnect ide drives/starforce nightmare etc?

I doubt that he would have to. The game is securom detected, and the latest beta is supposed to address newer securom protections.

khlb
22nd June 2007, 14:13
you didnt do anything different like disconnect ide drives/starforce nightmare etc?

No - I inserted my DVD - created a fresh new profile, ejected the DVD. Last thing I did was to "Create a desktop shortcut" offered in the tools menu.

Then started to do some tomb raiding .... As it should be. :)

Webslinger
22nd June 2007, 15:01
Yes, I'm liking this .560 release. The only other issues I can find apart from "Update Version Info" not doing anything is the links under "Obtaining Help and Support" don't appear to work for me. But these are very minor issues.

.560 is more like the Game Jackal I know and like. :agree:
And with updated Securom support, people have a legitimate reason to be paying the insignificant $10 upgrade fee now (many of us already knew Slysoft would come through). :clap:

Webslinger
22nd June 2007, 15:02
After an uberquick test: My Oblivion profile now asks me for the disk, although if I select 'retry', it then loads.

All it would be doing is a disk check, so that's pretty weird. Oblivion doesn't have any protection.

khlb
22nd June 2007, 15:27
Ok - I don't want to alarm the community, but I have hit a snag regarding TR-A:eek:

The thing is: If I launch TR -A from *within* "Game Jackal - My Game Profiles" then the game always launches. Now if I launch the game from the desktop icon Game Jackal created - then it is unfortunally a hit and miss case with this latest beta.


So - 10 launches down my advise is thus: to start newer SecuROM 7 games from within Game Jackal- well with this beta at least.
:doh:

@matthew: It is the "Conflict with Emulation Software detected.
Please have a look at http://www.securom.com/message.asp?m=emu&c=13000 for further, more detailed information." I get now and then when I start the game from the desktop - but *never* from Game Jackal. :confused:

Webslinger
22nd June 2007, 15:35
The thing is: If I launch TR -A from *within* "Game Jackal - My Game Profiles" then the game always launches. Now if I launch the game from the desktop icon Game Jackal created - then it is unfortunally a hit and miss case with this latest beta.

What file are you profiling from? tra.exe ? Does that normally launch the game immediately--or do you get some menu asking if you want to launch the game, update, etc?

Did you lock the profile after creating one from the desktop?

khlb
22nd June 2007, 16:40
What file are you profiling from? tra.exe ? Does that normally launch the game immediately--or do you get some menu asking if you want to launch the game, update, etc?

Did you lock the profile after creating one from the desktop?

Sorry for the delay, I was in Peru again - launched from the desktop this time. And no - I still haven't figured this out yet. :)

1 - Yes - tra.exe from the installed game directory.
2 - When I doubleclick the Game Jackal TR-A profile the game itself launches i.e Eidos movie, nVidia movie etc. The autorun tr-a-launcher is bypassed.

3 - "Lock the profile" :confused:
Select read-only attributes in general tab or a spesific gj-option?
Please eleborate.

Note: I didn't create a game profile by rightclicking the desktop-shortcut created by Eidos. My shortcut was created with Game Jackal --> Tools menu --> Create desktop shortcut

Webslinger
22nd June 2007, 16:56
3 - "Lock the profile" :confused:

Yeah, within Game Jackal, select the appropriate profile, right click and select "lock capture mode". I normally do this right after I create any profile and test to ensure it works.

I also find I have to wait about 5-10 seconds before attempting to run a game again (after exiting). Otherwise, I experience problems.

khlb
22nd June 2007, 17:15
Yeah, within Game Jackal, select the appropriate profile, right click and select "lock capture mode". I normally do this right after I create any profile and test to ensure it works.

I also find I have to wait about 5-10 seconds before attempting to run a game again (after exiting). Otherwise, I experience problems.

Thank you for that great tip. Rightclicking a profile within GJ revealed a even quicker way to create a desktop shortcut. :)

But to the matter at hand - no major difference locking/unlocking a profile for me at least. Waiting a few seconds may work, but it can be just coincidence. To early to tell.

But the major fact remains - a latter revision SecuROM title can be profiled.
For that I'm most pleased with my latest purchase.

Ok - let's take a peep at StarForce and Tages when this update gets a final stamp, please? I have a Long Journey with Dreamfall ahead of me ...

Webslinger
22nd June 2007, 17:40
But to the matter at hand - no major difference locking/unlocking a profile for me at least.

Yeah, but you need to lock it immediately after creating a profile--and not after it starts failing.

For that I'm most pleased with my latest purchase.

Yes, I feel this latest beta is definitely a sign of progress. I'm relieved that profiling bug from the desktop has been fixed, and it's good to see support for newer Securom releases.

khlb
22nd June 2007, 18:09
Yeah, but you need to lock it immediately after creating a profile--and not after it starts failing.


Ok - I deleted my profile to test this Locker. Created a profile and locked it at the first instance. It didn't help me very much I'm afraid. I still must launch this game from Game Jackal Launch Control Center - Firing Room (http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/lps/fr.html). :D

matthew
22nd June 2007, 19:24
Ok - I don't want to alarm the community, but I have hit a snag regarding TR-A:eek:

The thing is: If I launch TR -A from *within* "Game Jackal - My Game Profiles" then the game always launches. Now if I launch the game from the desktop icon Game Jackal created - then it is unfortunally a hit and miss case with this latest beta.


So - 10 launches down my advise is thus: to start newer SecuROM 7 games from within Game Jackal- well with this beta at least.
:doh:

@matthew: It is the "Conflict with Emulation Software detected.
Please have a look at http://www.securom.com/message.asp?m=emu&c=13000 for further, more detailed information." I get now and then when I start the game from the desktop - but *never* from Game Jackal. :confused:


This is a little odd... can you please do the following.
Go to the GJ directory and delete the file "profile.log" and then try the desktop shortcut again. Can you then PM the contents of the log file to me.

JackiRipper2000
23rd June 2007, 04:01
REVISIONS AND UPDATES

Release v2.9.18.565 - release
* Update version info link fixed.

http://static.slysoft.com/SetupGameJackal.exe

khlb
23rd June 2007, 13:10
This is a little odd... can you please do the following.
Go to the GJ directory and delete the file "profile.log" and then try the desktop shortcut again. Can you then PM the contents of the log file to me.

Done! Allthough the lack of a most wanted paperclip when you want to add a attachment forced me to upload it to support(at)slysoft.com


For your convenience: [Ticket#2007062313264]

:)

matthew
29th June 2007, 22:01
Done! Allthough the lack of a most wanted paperclip when you want to add a attachment forced me to upload it to support(at)slysoft.com


For your convenience: [Ticket#2007062313264]

:)

Thanks, I received the file and there was nothing strange. Are you still having this problem with the latest version of GJ?

khlb
2nd July 2007, 12:46
Yes I do. Occasionally - but not so frequent as before with final 2.9.18.565 build.

It is only SecuROM-protected games I have tested this last week-end of June (C&C 3 - Kane Edition and Tomb Raider - Anniversary). Geez - we have completed 1.st-half of 2007 allready.:)

It is the 13000 code I still see. Once or twice have I got a 1000 response. This errorcode-responce is not reproducable for me unfortunately.

My 13000 workaround is through the main menu as I have told before.
I have also started to explore the possibilities with the option "Show profiles in tray menu". I find that function to be a neat and quick way to launch my games. When launching a game from the desktop returns a 13000, the tray icon works.

Humble request: Show the gameicons on the tray menu list. ;)

Anakha56
2nd July 2007, 14:59
i would love to have the icons showing in the tray menu list...

so far I have not had any issues with CnC3 Kane Edition using the latest version...