Buy memory now! [Archive]

Webslinger

23rd June 2007, 19:44

Memory "should" hold or even drop in pricing for awhile.

No. DDR2 won't.

visit http://forum.ncix.com/forums/index.php?mode=showthread&forum=190&threadid=1368817&msgcount=14&subpage=1

"Sorry everyone. Extremely sharp price increases in memory the last few days (30% to 40%!) with no end in sight right now. We'll do what we can to offer deals, but expect everything to go up quickly. "

"Adam_C
NCIX staff member
Ram pricing is cyclical. There are typically shortages as vendors ramp up for back to school desktop/notebook sales, or when production switches to other categories of memory such as flash. DDR3 has little to do with things as it's a low production part. Having caught a glimpse of some of the upcoming memory prices, I'd say don't delay if you are even remotely thinking of purchasing. "

Somone also sent me this info:

"After talking directly to a sales rep, he even pointed out that 40% is conservative, that some of their prices are due to rise by 50%! This 30%-50% increase is across the board. Whether you believe this is price fixing by the memory manufacturers doesn't matter. What matters is that with such a huge price fluctuations, there is the opportunity for short-term profit taking.

Now is the time to buy DDR2 memory for yourself, and perhaps extra for resale. Not sure if the risk is worth it? I also gleaned some extra insider information that nobody knows: NCIX staff are buying their own store memory for resale!"

NCIX's suppliers service both Canada and the U.S. (and NCIX has a decent online reputation . . . over 9 at resellerratings and elsewhere). They aren't going to risk lying, and kill their reputation.

the market is flooded

I don't deal with old information.

It's always a guessing game

Suit yourself. DDR2 prices are going up, especially once stores run out of existing stock.

I always try to stock up while prices are low so I can give my customers a good deal when prices go up.

If your customers use DDR2, now is time to stock up.

Webslinger

23rd June 2007, 21:23

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1525&Itemid=1

"Our industry sources believe that DDR2 memory is about to get more expensive. It hit the lowest price the last few weeks.

In the last two weeks DDR2 chips got more expensive and it is just a matter of time until you see DDR2 module prices going up. You can buy DDR2 2 GB kits for about €85 but you can expect that this memory will become more expensive soon.

If you want to get DDR2 memory the time is right now, in a week or two it ought to be more expensive. Don’t tell that we haven’t warned you."

But hey, suit yourself . . .

Info is corroborated by both suppliers and a huge online store.

mike20021969

24th June 2007, 05:32

webslinger,you should've posted the information in your last 2 posts when you started this thread then oldjoe could've considered this extra information before making his post which you went and trampled all over with your source link+quotes.
when you say If you're thinking about building a new system, now is the time to buy DDR2 memory. Expect memory prices to shoot up 30-50%. you should've included where you got the information from from the start.

oldjoe

24th June 2007, 09:51

Those links seem to be mostly speculation but you never know. I'll keep a close watch on my resources for any evidence of rising prices.

Webslinger

24th June 2007, 09:58

Those links seem to be mostly speculation

You have staff and ordering managers saying "Having caught a glimpse of some of the upcoming memory prices . . ."

That's not speculation. That's NCIX ordering managers looking at supplier costs rising on their computers because they want to restock.

Webslinger

24th June 2007, 10:05

webslinger,you should've posted the information in your last 2 posts when you started this thread

Wow. How about next time I simply don't post instead of being attacked as though I'm making everything up? :mad:
Do you think I just make stuff up when I post?

I was trying to be nice and let people know, and I get attacked for it? Not happening again . . .

ZO1

24th June 2007, 10:26

mike20021969

24th June 2007, 11:13

Wow. How about next time I simply don't post instead of being attacked as though I'm making everything up? :mad:
Do you think I just make stuff up when I post?

I was trying to be nice and let people know, and I get attacked for it? Not happening again . . .sorry if you feel i was attacking you.
i've never thought that you ever made anything up in any of your replies.
if oldjoe hadn't made his comment,we'd probably never have read all that extra detailed information that you later posted (and which i found interesting to read).
absolutely no offence was intended.again apologies if it came over that way.
:bowdown:

Webslinger

24th June 2007, 11:53

sorry if you feel i was attacking you.
i've never thought that you ever made anything up in any of your replies.
if oldjoe hadn't made his comment,we'd probably never have read all that extra detailed information that you later posted (and which i found interesting to read).
absolutely no offence was intended.again apologies if it came over that way.
:bowdown:

O.k., sorry. I owe you an apology. I misinterpreted what you wrote. Next time I will try to provide sources (I'm a bit lazy, so I'll make an effort to remember next time).

Webslinger

24th June 2007, 11:54

FYI, I appreciated the info, thanks.

no problem

oldjoe

24th June 2007, 16:59

You have staff and ordering managers saying "Having caught a glimpse of some of the upcoming memory prices . . ."

That's not speculation. That's NCIX ordering managers looking at supplier costs rising on their computers because they want to restock.

"Upcoming" when? Of course RAM will rise as the supply deletes, as it always has. That's the cycle that RAM has always ran due to the manufacturing practices. There speculation could quite possibly have some merit if they are ordering well into the latter part of the year as most larger suppliers do. One other consideration might be that DDR2 has been exceptionally low priced recently and the supply has depleted sooner than anticipated?
I also appreciate the info and I will, as I said earlier, keep a close eye on my suppliers prices.

Webslinger

24th June 2007, 17:05

"Upcoming" when?

visit http://forum.ncix.com/forums/index.php?mode=showthread&forum=190&threadid=1368817&msgcount=29&subpage=1

"Sorry everyone. Extremely sharp price increases in memory the last few days (30% to 40%!) with no end in sight right now. We'll do what we can to offer deals, but expect everything to go up quickly. "

Sounds pretty quick to me.

"Due to pricing instability in the memory market, memory pricing may not be accurate and orders may be subject to review or cancellation until further notice. This includes all memory products currently in stock, and anything listed as not in stock will be subject to increases or cancellation. "

If NCIX has to consider cancelling existing customers' orders (this hasn't happened yet) due to sudden price increases, that's pretty serious stuff (as it would really upset NCIX's customers . . . that's a customer relations nightmare situation). Presumably that would be more likely to happen to customers who have placed orders for items that are not in stock (so the items would be "on order").

The full message is . .

"Due to pricing instability in the memory market, memory pricing may not be accurate and orders may be subject to review or cancellation until further notice. This includes all memory products currently in stock, and anything listed as not in stock will be subject to increases or cancellation.

Where possible, we will try to honour pricing on in stock items ONLY, but this will be determined on a case by case basis.

Memory pricing currently offered in our promotions will held at offered pricing for as long as possible, but promotional offers may be revoked without prior notice.

Sorry everyone. Extremely sharp price increases in memory the last few days (30% to 40%!) with no end in sight right now. We'll do what we can to offer deals, but expect everything to go up quickly. "

Webslinger

25th June 2007, 10:12

from http://techreport.com/onearticle.x/12710

System memory spot prices are on the rise
by Cyril Kowaliski - 01:31 pm, June 20, 2007

We've heard from various sources that system memory prices would start to go up in the second half of this year, and that trend appears to already be in effect. As DRAMeXchange reports, spot prices for 512Mb (64MB) DDR2 memory chips jumped by 22.8% to 27.5% (depending on the memory type) between June 11 and June 20. One of the factors behind this increase is a little unusual, though:

Some channel distributors in Shenzhen, who aggressively pre stock amid the smuggling-fighting measures in southern China, is one of the major causes for the price rebound. Since China imposes 17% VAT on imported goods, some China-based channel distributors often smuggle DRAM chips from Hong Kong in order to avoid the VAT cost. Yet, the strict smuggling-fighting measures recently prompted them to aggressively source DRAM chips from spot market under shortage concern, thus boosting prices accordingly.

The other factor behind the increase, according to DRAMeXchange, is longer production cycles caused by the transition to 70nm process technology.

oldjoe

28th June 2007, 10:31

As of yesterday, June 27, 2007, DDR2 RAM prices, on all the internet retailers that I find, is dropping or holding steady.:confused:

Webslinger

28th June 2007, 10:36

As of yesterday, June 27, 2007, DDR2 RAM prices, on all the internet retailers that I find, is dropping or holding steady.:confused:

You'll have to wait for in-stock depletion before seeing changes (I did notice Crucial PC-8500 price drops on 2 gig kits, but I doubt those would have been affected much anyway as there's hardly a demand for them except from overclockers); 2-4 weeks before NCIX customers start yelling, I'm told (possibly sooner) . . .

oldjoe

28th June 2007, 10:42

You'll have to wait for in-stock depletion before seeing changes (I did notice Crucial PC-8500 price drops on 2 gig kits, but I doubt those would have been affected much anyway as there's hardly a demand for them except from overclockers).

That has been my point all along. RAM prices are always dependent on stock.
Post #5 in this thread.............
RAM is manufactured in "MASS" quantities, the market is flooded, prices drop until the quantity is very depleted. Then the prices go up. It's always a guessing game.

Webslinger

28th June 2007, 10:45

That has been my point all along. RAM prices are always dependent on stock.

This is from your first post:

Memory "should" hold or even drop in pricing for awhile.

I'm not sure what you mean by "awhile". The price increase is imminent.

The prices are going up already elsewhere:

visit http://www.behardware.com/news/8911/ddr2-prices-soar.html (and the prices have been going up in other countries)

"DDR2 prices soar
Posted on 21/06/2007 at 20:50 by Marc

For several days now the price of DDR2 has climbed. Since our last report on June 12, the 64 MB DDR2-667 chip has increased from $1.79 to $2.36, or a 32% gain. On the contrary, the price of DDR-400 is decreasing, which has meant that the two are getting closer because it is now at $2.66, or a 2.9% drop."

http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/77909774/m/903003865831

Webslinger

28th June 2007, 10:57

http://www.arnnet.com.au/index.php/id;173763745

RAM prices on the rise
DDR2 memory up 25 per cent and likely to increase again
Rob Irwin 26 June, 2007 16:24:28

"DDR2 prices have leapt 25 per cent in the past fortnight and could go up even further in July.

CEO of RAM module-maker, OCZ Technology, Ryan Petersen, said in a blog that Taiwan's Powerchip Semiconductor had reduced its weekly output of chips, leading to a recent price hike that had already hit the local market.

Confirming the hike from a local perspective was Plus Corporation managing director, Nigel Fernandes.

"RAM had dropped and was at a good price point two weeks ago, but now it's gone up 25 per cent," he said. "It's across the board from all the vendors like Kingston, Corsair and the more generic ones."

While the recent price hike might have generally taken RAM back to where it was before its recent mini-drop, Petersen gave voice to industry speculation that Powerchip Semiconductor might be holding inventory.

Other speculation centred on the RAM maker swapping fab capacity to higher density parts or implementing previously scheduled new die shrinks - either of which could ultimately lead to further price hikes.

"With the major Intel CPU price cuts coming next month, you can be sure demand for more memory in the channel will go up this July," he wrote. "And we all know what happens when demand goes up with low supply."

Plus Corporation's Fernandes remains unfazed.

"Two or three years ago when RAM was $200 a stick, a 10-20 per cent swing was significant," he said. "Now, when I'm paying $39 a stick, up from $35, the cost is just absorbed into the price of the system. We'll just watch it and see how it goes."

oldjoe

1st July 2007, 10:57

My dealer sources are all holding steady and some have been having some good specials.
Several brands (Corsair-Crucial-Patriot & others) have some excellent rebates going on. Many online vendors (i.e. Newegg....ZZF) are running some good specials. My best guess would be that prices will rise sharply about late fall....as per usual.

Webslinger

1st July 2007, 11:00

oldjoe

5th July 2007, 11:08

Net retailers are having some really good bargains on DDR2 RAM (Patriot, Crucial,OCZ and Corsair in particular). Most are w/rebates but still good deals.

Webslinger

5th July 2007, 11:22

Net retailers are having some really good bargains on DDR2 RAM (Patriot, Crucial,OCZ and Corsair in particular). Most are w/rebates but still good deals.

Yeah, some rebates are helping to negate some of the price increases I've seen this week (but the memory still costs more). Corsair XMS2 DHX TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX 4GB ram went up at several places (and now NCIX and some other stores are out of stock). This excellent ram is mostly recommended for 64 bit systems (in part due to the memory limitation in 32 bit Windows). This stuff is far better than OCZ gold.

Edit: Seems to be out of stock at many places now including New Egg.

oldjoe

5th July 2007, 14:55

Yeah, some rebates are helping to negate some of the price increases I've seen this week (but the memory still costs more). Corsair XMS2 DHX TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX 4GB ram went up at several places (and now NCIX and some other stores are out of stock). This excellent ram is mostly recommended for 64 bit systems (in part due to the memory limitation in 32 bit Windows). This stuff is far better than OCZ gold.

I have yet to see any price increases.....w/or without rebates. I'm still seeing steady or lower prices ...........as per usual for this time of year.

Webslinger

5th July 2007, 15:07

I have yet to see any price increases.....w/or without rebates. I'm still seeing steady or lower prices ...........as per usual for this time of year.

On all out of stock items, I'm seeing price increases from supplier listings, which confirms what the OCZ ceo stated. What does your supplier(s) have listed for pricing on TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX?

oldjoe

5th July 2007, 15:19

On all out of stock items, I'm seeing price increases from supplier listings, which confirms what the OCZ ceo stated. What does your supplier(s) have listed for pricing on TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX?

I'm seeing steady prices with rebates and little to none Out of stock.

TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX......2X1GB....$104 w/$35 rebate.
2X512...not XTC...$52

Webslinger

5th July 2007, 15:21

I'm seeing steady prices with rebates and little to none Out of stock.

TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX......2X1GB....$104 w/$35 rebate.
2X512...not XTC...$52

TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX is 4Gb only:

http://www.corsairmemory.com/_datasheets/TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX.pdf

2x1G is TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (most places have this in stock still) not TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145176 (OOS at newegg) rebate ends July 9th

oldjoe

5th July 2007, 15:28

TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX is 4Gb only:

http://www.corsairmemory.com/_datasheets/TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX.pdf

2x1G is TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (most places have this in stock still) not TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX

Newegg shows it in a 2X1GB pack......4GB.......$269 with $30 rebate

Webslinger

5th July 2007, 15:35

Newegg shows it in a 2X1GB pack......4GB.......$269 with $30 rebate

This is the ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145176
it's OOS (out of stock until July 9th, coincidently, the same day the rebate ends).

Again 2x1G is TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX is 2 gigs (this is in stock most places), which I wasn't referring to.

TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX is 4Gb only (oos NCIX, Newegg, etc., with the rebate ending July 9th).

These are specific part numbers. TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX can only be 4 GB.

oldjoe

5th July 2007, 15:43

This is the ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145176
it's OOS (out of stock until July 9th, coincidently, the same day the rebate ends).

Again 2x1G is TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX is 2 gigs (this is in stock most places), which I wasn't referring to.

TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX is 4Gb only (oos NCIX, Newegg, etc., with the rebate ending July 9th).

These are specific part numbers. TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX can only be 4 GB.

OK........................................

Webslinger

5th July 2007, 15:47

OK........................................

Anyway, my point is it wasn't out of stock when this thread began (it wasn't at least at NCIX), and I'm told the new supplier prices are higher on this. So, I was curious if your supplier prices have gone up on this item as well.

Webslinger

5th July 2007, 23:05

Newegg shows it in a 2X1GB pack......4GB.......$269 with $30 rebate

$289 less than 24 hours later at Newegg now ($259 with a $30 rebate).

$20 price jump :(

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145176 (still out of stock)

oldjoe

6th July 2007, 18:46

All in all, the point is the same. DDR2 RAM is still at very low prices and will most likely continue until the usual fall raise in price .........when stocks are depleting.

Webslinger

6th July 2007, 19:27

All in all, the point is the same. DDR2 RAM is still at very low prices and will most likely continue until the usual fall raise in price .........when stocks are depleting.

You must have information that runs counter to what a ceo for OCZ, NCIX, and several other places are saying then, oldjoe, as all indications are (in addition to the article and other sources I linked to) that all new DDR2 memory being ordered in is going up. :confused:

If you'd like, I can provide you with several other examples of DDR2 memory prices that have also risen.

oldjoe

6th July 2007, 23:10

Webslinger

6th July 2007, 23:15

LOL ......I'm sure you're right. All "ordered" DDR2 RAM is going up in price.That will be the RAM that will be sold retail about the last quarter of the year. Oh, that right, that's what Ive been saying.:confused:

It's being sold now oldjoe:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145176

You can place an order. It's more expensive now though. Of course, people I know (and some store workers) already bought this ram knowing what would happen.

Where is the price on this item holding steady or dropping? :confused:
What do you know that the various sources I listed don't? :confused:
Who are your suppliers? :confused:

http://www.overclock.net/2383553-post14.html

Anyway, again, you can do what you want. I'm done with this thread, and I'm also through with mentioning what's happening in the market (whether it be upcoming intel price cuts, ddr2 price increases--and more ddr2 items will go OOS in a number of places before q4, etc.).

Not worth my time . . .

oldjoe

7th July 2007, 09:29

And, in conclusion, I will say one more time for anyone...RAM is manufactured in mass quantity. When that quantity hits the market the prices drop...when the quantity depletes the prices rise. Same thing every time.
That's how people know it is going to happen. :agree:

oldjoe

26th July 2007, 09:22

Anyone that is looking for DDR2 RAM, now is the time to buy! There are LOTS of good deals going on at most reputable retailers.

SlyFox 1

26th July 2007, 11:25

Anyone that is looking for DDR2 RAM, now is the time to buy! There are LOTS of good deals going on at most reputable retailers.
This is very true. RAM is a commodity and the prices actually change everyday. But lately you can find very good deals on matched sets of RAM sticks. I found that OCZ and Corsair are the best for me and I can buy 2X1 gig matched set for about 125.00USD, these prices are unequaled and it is for quality RAM.

oldjoe

7th August 2007, 10:14

Many online retailers are still dropping prices on DDR2 RAM. Most are with rebates.

DetroitBaseball

7th August 2007, 13:07

If you're thinking about building a new system, now is the time to buy DDR2 memory. Expect memory prices to shoot up 30-50%.

Hold off on buying Intel CPUs though, until July 22nd.
I saw 2GB of DDR2 memory at Newegg for like $80.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145157

Ordered it. $88 with everything included.

DetroitBaseball

7th August 2007, 13:07

Many online retailers are still dropping prices on DDR2 RAM. Most are with rebates.
Now that DDR3 is popping up more and more.

oldjoe

7th August 2007, 14:50

DetroitBaseball

7th August 2007, 14:54

DDR3 "popping up" doesn't really affect prices of DDR2. RAM prices are determined by availability.
The chipsets (Bearlake for Intel boards.....not sure about AMD) for DDR3 are just starting to appear on MOBO's. I'm sure DDR2 will rise in price once DDR3 is more usable.
It does. Now that DDR3 is coming up, there will be less of a demand for DDR2 and as a result prices will drop. AMD wont have DDR3 motherboards until 2008 I heard, they are behind again.

oldjoe

8th August 2007, 18:20

The demand will stay high for DDR2 for quite some time. At least until the chipsets catch up.

DetroitBaseball

10th August 2007, 19:57

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820161677

Webslinger

10th August 2007, 20:01

$289 less than 24 hours later at Newegg now ($259 with a $30 rebate).

$20 price jump :(

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145176 (still out of stock)

Now at $359 :doh: (and it's in stock)

DetroitBaseball

10th August 2007, 20:03

Now at $359 :doh:
Man you misewell get a new PC if you're gonna spend $360 on 2 sticks of RAM. They got 2GB of RAM for under $80 right now.

Webslinger

10th August 2007, 20:06

Man you misewell get a new PC if you're gonna spend $360 on 2 sticks of RAM. They got 2GB of RAM for under $80 right now.

That's 2x2 gigs running in dual channel (and corsair xms2 dhx is pretty nice stuff) ddr2 800. The point is the price shot up significantly since I originally posted about it. I'm glad I bought mine long before these price increases.

Also, I rarely buy low end junk.

DetroitBaseball

10th August 2007, 20:08

That's 2x2 gigs running in dual channel (and corsair xms2 dhx is pretty nice stuff). Point is the price shot up significantly. I'm glad I bought mine long before these price increases.
You building a system?

DetroitBaseball

10th August 2007, 20:09

Also, I rarely buy low end junk.
Just because it's really cheap doesn't necessarily make it junk.

Webslinger

10th August 2007, 20:10

You building a system?

For my g/f, yes . . .

Webslinger

10th August 2007, 20:10

Just because it's really cheap doesn't necessarily make it junk.

Depends a little (I find I often pay for what I get when it comes to computer parts, but I'm usually well informed on what I'm buying) . . .

DetroitBaseball

10th August 2007, 20:11

Depends a little . . .
I just got my 2GB of Corsair installed today, paid a little over $80 for it. I don't have a ton of money so I look for deals.

DetroitBaseball

10th August 2007, 20:13

For my g/f, yes . . .
Oh. Is she computer "smart"?

Webslinger

10th August 2007, 20:16

Oh. Is she computer "smart"?

Having been around me helps a little, but she can't build one herself, and she wouldn't know what to buy.

DetroitBaseball

10th August 2007, 20:17

Having been around me helps a little, but she can't build one herself, and she wouldn't know what to buy.
Yeah. What are the specs gonna be on it then?

Webslinger

10th August 2007, 20:28

Yeah. What are the specs gonna be on it then?

- G0 stepping intel quad core q6600 (going to overclock this for her)
- Vista Ultimate 64 bit
- Antec Truepower Quattro 850W Power Supply
- 4 gigs of ram (you basically saw the link to it)
- 2x500 (raid 0) Western Digital SE16 500GB SATA2 7200RPM 16MB Cache 8.9MS
- I forget what current sata hardrive she has with Windows XP pro (I'm just going to show her how to change to boot options in bios)
- Radeon 2900 HD XT 850mhz 1gig card (these are special orders as most 1 gig versions of these cards are 743 mhz; I was going to do crossfire on this, but due to directx 10.1 announcement, I'm not going to bother . . . I'll wait for the 10.1 cards from Nvidia and ATI)
- AuzenTech X-FI Prelude 7.1 Sound Card 32BIT PCI
- She already has a Plextor PX-760a; I think I'll add the SATA version of the Pioneer burner you have
- she has an old Coolermaster Wavemaster aluminum computer case that she likes (so I'll use it)

DetroitBaseball

10th August 2007, 20:30

- G0 stepping intel quad core q6600 (going to overclock this for her)
- Vista Ultimate 64 bit
- Antec Truepower Quattro 850W Power Supply
- 4 gigs of ram (you basically saw the link to it)
- 2x500 (raid 0) Western Digital SE16 500GB SATA2 7200RPM 16MB Cache 8.9MS
- I forget what current sata hardrive she has with Windows XP pro (I'm just going to show her how to change to boot options in bios)
- Radeon 2900 HD XT 850mhz 1gig card (these are special orders as most 1 gig versions of these cards are 743 mhz; I was going to do crossfire on this, but due to directx 10.1 announcement, I'm not going to bother . . . I'll wait for the 10.1 cards from Nvidia and ATI)
- AuzenTech X-FI Prelude 7.1 Sound Card 32BIT PCI
- She already has a Plextor PX-760a; I think I'll add the SATA version of the Pioneer burner you have
- she has an old Coolermaster Wavemaster aluminum computer case that she likes (so I'll use it)
Wow, what is she gonna be doin' on it to need a quad core and 4GB of RAM? Not to mention 1TB, heh.

Webslinger

10th August 2007, 20:32

Wow, what is she gonna be doin' on it to need a quad core and 4GB of RAM? Not to mention 1TB, heh.

Gaming, of course :D

2x2 gigs is generally recommended for Vista 64 bit OS if you're going to game
I'm expecting potential slowups under XP with that config (and, of course, XP won't use it all properly)

DetroitBaseball

10th August 2007, 20:34

Gaming, of course :D
That system must run over $2000. Someone has a lot of $$$$.

Webslinger

10th August 2007, 20:37

That system must run over $2000. Someone has a lot of $$$$.

I don't remember total cost, but it's around $1500-$1600, iirc (including the m/b). I get special pricing.
She is paying for it--not me. She didn't want to go much over ~2K U.S. funds, and
I remember if I got two of those video cards (crossfire), I would have been pushing 2K.

DetroitBaseball

10th August 2007, 20:41

I don't remember total cost, but it's over $1500. It's under $2000 though. I get special pricing.
She is paying for it--not me.
I'd say that's a good deal then. Hmm she's the one with the $$$$ then. I've never been a big PC gamer although I play a PC game here and there.

Webslinger

10th August 2007, 20:47

I'd say that's a good deal then. Hmm she's the one with the $$$$ then.

Yep, that's for sure . . .

DetroitBaseball

10th August 2007, 20:50

Yep, that's for sure . . .
I think for most people hardware comes down to how you use it. You can make Vista run great on just 1GB of RAM and a P4 if you know how to tweak it. Most people have a ton of background programs running and things like that.

Webslinger

10th August 2007, 20:55

I think for most people hardware comes down to how you use it. You can make Vista run great on just 1GB of RAM and a P4 if you know how to tweak it. Most people have a ton of background programs running and things like that.

For Vista 64 bit and directx 10 gaming, a lot of people are moving to 4 gigs (also in part due to how low ddr2 memory prices were). Vista 64 can use the whole 4 gigs and as a lot of newer games now almost require 2 gigs to run smoothly . . . well, under Vista 64, 4 gigs is better than 2 (and if you're a gamer, chances are you want that 4 gigs to run in dual channel)

This isn't the best gaming rig in the world that I'm building, but for her it will be good enough until directx 10.1 games are released.

DetroitBaseball

10th August 2007, 21:02

For Vista 64 bit and directx 10 gaming, a lot of people are moving to 4 gigs (also in part due to how low ddr2 memory prices were). Vista 64 can use the whole 4 gigs and as a lot of newer games now almost require 2 gigs to run smoothly . . . well, under Vista 64, 4 gigs is better than 2 (and if you're a gamer, chances are you want that 4 gigs to run in dual channel)

This isn't the best gaming rig in the world that I'm building, but for her it will be good enough until directx 10.1 games are released.
She gonna disable Aero? I use Windows Classic theme on Vista and also use a few other performance tweaks.

Webslinger

10th August 2007, 21:06

She gonna disable Aero?

I doubt it. She loves that kind of stuff. She'll probably ooh and aah over it.
:rolleyes:

DetroitBaseball

10th August 2007, 21:07

I doubt it. She loves that kind of stuff. She'll probably ooh and aah over it.
:rolleyes:
I could run on it here with no prob since I have 2GB of RAM but computers are for getting things done, not to look great.

Webslinger

10th August 2007, 21:30

I could run on it here with no prob since I have 2GB of RAM but computers are for getting things done, not to look great.

Yeah, I tend to agree with you in principle. If some extra nonsense is going to slow my system down, I won't use it.

oldjoe

11th August 2007, 09:15

Just because it's really cheap doesn't necessarily make it junk.

Very true. I have experimented with a LOT of RAM and much of the cheaper stuff is very good. Corsair and Patriot are very reliable, stable and good performers.

Clams

19th August 2007, 00:07

I just put my ECC server memory up on Ebay - hopeing to get a sale or a swap for non-ECC memory. It's item number 160149010295

-W

DetroitBaseball

21st August 2007, 00:06

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211066

oldjoe

21st August 2007, 16:37

RAM prices just keep dropping. :D

DetroitBaseball

21st August 2007, 16:38

RAM prices just keep dropping. :D
Good news. Most people only have 256MB or 512MB which is just not enough these days with multi-tasking and such, Vista.

oldjoe

21st August 2007, 22:42

256MB was barely enough for XP. I install 1G (2X512 for HT) in all retail builds.

DetroitBaseball

28th August 2007, 04:16

256MB was barely enough for XP. I install 1G (2X512 for HT) in all retail builds.
I agree with that completely. Minimum should be 512, optimal 1GB, best at 2GB for non gaming.

DetroitBaseball

24th September 2007, 18:27

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231116

$65 for 2GB of DDR2 laptop memory which has awesome reviews. It has 139 reviews of 5, and the rest only add up to 10.

oldjoe

24th September 2007, 18:50

The prices just keeps dropping on DDR2 RAM! :D

DetroitBaseball

27th September 2007, 21:30

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231098

Great deal for 2GB.

DetroitBaseball

2nd October 2007, 21:40

2GB of laptop memory for only $60!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231116

Charlie

2nd October 2007, 21:53

How truely well is Giel? I use OCZ personally. :D

DetroitBaseball

2nd October 2007, 21:54

147 reviews of 5 stars
6 reviews of 4 stars
3 reviews of 3 stars
2 reviews of 2 stars
4 reiews of 1 star

Amazing.

Charlie

2nd October 2007, 21:56

Thanks I may look into it soon. Right now I need ODD's I have a friend in cali sending me a rebadged BenQ 1620 with low milage he put it this was as my 1640 died yesterday completely.

oldjoe

25th October 2007, 16:34

Geil produces very good RAM but you should always check the MOBO manufacturer for compatibility. This has became a more prevalent problem with DDR2RAM and especially with some ASUS and Nvidia boards and ANY board using Nvidia chipsets w/Intel CPU's.
If you're not OC'ing, which should be a no brainer considering todays CPU speeds, there is no need for high dollar RAM. Most of the "value" series will perform more than satisfactorily.
DDR2 prices are still dropping!!!!!!!!!!

Charlie

25th October 2007, 16:55

Hardly ever down here but joe is correct however I just got 2 more one gig sticks of OCZ the exact same as I already had.

Webslinger

25th October 2007, 17:04

I disagree, but I'm a gamer. If I can get a q6600 running at 3 ghz on air (very mild overclock) with a negligible change in temperature, then it makes perfect sense to me to use high-end ram (which costs more). A friend's watercooled system is running one at 3.7 ghz prime stable with very nice temps. And I don't see high performance ram dropping where I am. In fact, I'm still seeing a slight increase. I'm also glad I bought some extra Corsair XMS2 Dominator 2x2 gigs back when the price was at a sweet spot. But again, I don't don't use cheap parts.

Charlie

25th October 2007, 17:10

I disagree, but I'm a gamer. And I don't see high performance ram dropping where I am. In fact, I'm still seeing a slight increase. I'm also glad I bought some extra Corsair XMS2 Dominator 2x2 gigs back when the price was at a sweet spot.

Good choices. I was debating over those or the OCZ I believe these are what I have?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227089

Not a bad price either I think.

Webslinger

25th October 2007, 17:21

Good choices. I was debating over those or the OCZ I believe these are what I have?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227089

Not a bad price either I think.

Corsair's Dominator series uses better parts and the design is better for heat. But oldjoe is right, in that, most people who don't overclock don't need anything that high-end. When I started this thread, I was only looking into high-end gaming DDr2 4 gig module memory (when I build computers, they are designed with gaming in mind and overclocking; and I kind of ignored or simply wasn't thinking outside of my own group of hardcore PC gaming friends. Most people don't need the really high-end stuff that I use).

Charlie

25th October 2007, 17:25

Yes no O/C'ing here as I am not a highend gamer but do play some games from time to time. My setup has amazing values to really turn up the heat too I just don't see a need for it just yet.

Webslinger

25th October 2007, 17:27

Yes no O/C'ing here as I am not a highend gamer but do play some games from time to time. My setup has amazing values to really turn up the heat too I just don't see a need for it just yet.

Yeah, then there's really no need to bother with the memory I've mentioned in this thread.

oldjoe

26th October 2007, 09:44

Yes no O/C'ing here as I am not a highend gamer but do play some games from time to time. My setup has amazing values to really turn up the heat too I just don't see a need for it just yet.

If you can't get a high end system to perform in gaming, at stock settings, then it's not that high end. :D

profcolli

5th December 2007, 02:46

Webslinger

5th December 2007, 03:01

Sorry to dredge up an old thread, but considering the original theme (buy memory now, before it goes up 30-50%) perhaps it should be revived because what goes down must go up (to reverse an old saying). Just bought 2x1GB OCZ PC-6400 Platinum Rev.2 Dual Channel 4-4-4-15 (budget, but decent performance for a non-overclocker) for $23 CDN. Not far from putting them in cereal boxes.... :D

So I guess its buy now - these prices HAVE to go up!!

Those may not rise for quite some time (someone mentioned NCIX in Canada was running those for about that much after a rebate or something. Was that where you got it from?)

High end 4 gig modules of gaming ram already did increase (and has now bottomed slightly again).

oldjoe

5th December 2007, 18:51

The bottom just keeps dropping on all DDR2 in the US..........but, it will eventually rise.

profcolli

6th December 2007, 02:15

Those may not rise for quite some time (someone mentioned NCIX in Canada was running those for about that much after a rebate or something. Was that where you got it from?)
No, but from their main competitor in Vancouver (Anitec.ca) - NCIX was $20 more....
Today, it's $9.99 for 1GB of PC5400....
As I said, soon they'll be putting them in cereal boxes like those DVD's and CD-Rom games :clap: