Useless

[flexibilis]

I must say that I find AnyDVD completely useless. There was only 1 DVD that I could copy with AnyDVD, which Shrink DVD had problems with. This was the reason I bought AnyDVD. But since then, there was NOTa single DVD that AnyDVD could handle which also Shrink DVD wasn't able to.
Usually a read error is reported at approx. 30%, and when clicking Yes to ignore read errors, it's always the end of the story: the transfer rate drops to 0.0 and that's it. However, the original DVDs play perfectly fine in both the PC and a standalone player. And AnyDVD reports no problems whatsoever, when browsing the DVD at the beginning.
So I'd find these frequent updates nice, if they were of any help, but they proved to be just annoying to me.
Any comment?
:mad:

[Franchise]

Are you using AnyDVD as a ripper? If you use AnyDVD in conjunction with Shrink, you shouldn't have many problems at all.

[Kensw]

I am so surprised to hear you have problems. I use AnyDVD with Clone DVD and that combination makes backup copies of EVERYTHING. I have recommended the program to so many poeple I have lost count and everyone comes back with rave reviews.

[DrinkLyeAndDie]

Well, it's unfortunate that you have had such a bad experience with the software but considering how many other people don't have problems this leads me to think this may be a problem related to your computer [hardware and more specifically the DVD drive] and not the software. Without more info no one can be sure but I've made backups of all my DVDs for a number of years w/o problems using AnyDVD.

[vinman]

I use any dvd with 3 different burning programs and it hasent failed me yet
its one of the best investments I ever made

[aabbccdd]

clonedvd 2 + anydvd is your best bet not dvd shrink. dvd shrink has no support being it hasn't updated in years and will have problems doing the newer movies even with anydvd running in the background.

make sure your drive/burner has the latest firmware,

[aabbccdd]

check here

http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_all.php

[James]

I must say that I find AnyDVD completely useless. There was only 1 DVD that I could copy with AnyDVD, which Shrink DVD had problems with. This was the reason I bought AnyDVD. But since then, there was NOTa single DVD that AnyDVD could handle which also Shrink DVD wasn't able to.
Usually a read error is reported at approx. 30%, and when clicking Yes to ignore read errors, it's always the end of the story: the transfer rate drops to 0.0 and that's it. However, the original DVDs play perfectly fine in both the PC and a standalone player. And AnyDVD reports no problems whatsoever, when browsing the DVD at the beginning.
So I'd find these frequent updates nice, if they were of any help, but they proved to be just annoying to me.
Any comment?
:mad:
It looks like AnyDVD is not working correctly on your machine. If shrink reports read errors AnyDVD was unable to do its job.
You can try to run AnyDVD in "Safe Mode" (Settings -> Program settings).
You sould use the Microsoft IDE/SATA drivers, not some fancy motherboard drivers which often cause a lot of weird problems.

[trussme]

It looks like AnyDVD is not working correctly on your machine. If shrink reports read errors AnyDVD was unable to do its job.
You can try to run AnyDVD in "Safe Mode" (Settings -> Program settings).
You sould use the Microsoft IDE/SATA drivers, not some fancy motherboard drivers which often cause a lot of weird problems.

I have never-ever had any problems using ANY DVD (with the latest upgrades)with DVD Shrink 3.2 ...:clap:

[IcePhoenix]

i have never encountered a dvd i couldn't rip with anydvd installed... there have been some slow/buggy rips but it all went well after the next update :D

i used LightningUK's DVDDecrypter before he was put out of business, along with DVD Shrink. But AnyDVD and CloneDVD seemed to handle it all much faster so i bought it and it havent let me down so far

[maggelk]

I have to join the multitude. I've been using AnyDVD and CloneDVD for quite a while now and never experienced a problem

[rav555]

You must be doing something wrong, especially since no-one else is experiencing your problems.

The only problems I've ever experienced was related to my poor choice of media (memorex).

What is your hardware inventory and what media are you using?

[lifetimewellness]

ANy DVD works well in conjunction with the right copy software and the right media to copy with. You also must have enough memory available. I have never heard that Memorex is a good media, but have had success with Philips, and Sony and HP. I have a Philips DVD/Divx player and they work very well. I'd avoid Memorex. I also have used DVD shrink and use 1click DVD from LG software innovations.com with great success.

[weepus]

I've owned anydvd and clonedvd for litterally years.. and its never failed to make the backup. On occations I've had to mess with some settings or wait for the update but in the end.. the DVD was backed up.

As an aside, the slysoft support is second to none, they are prompt the extreamly helpful.. any a software company should take the example set by this company.

Weepus

[dukeway]

I don't know what your problem is. I have never had a problem with either ANYDVD or CLONE. They are the simply the best.

[Sambo]

I have a Dell Inspiron 8600 laptop with a Lite-on 8x DVD burner that I had problems making dvd copies that worked until I installed the latest dvd firmware for the drive. AnyDVD has always worked great on my desktop. I use CloneDVD to make backup copies of my dvds.

[Cloned dvd]

I have not found one single DVD that I could not backup.

I think this could be operator error...

Maybe?


if someone has a DVD that they can not get... please share the name with me. I want to know.

[KoRn]

I never had problems copying movies with AnyDVD.

[mike20021969]

i have been using AnyDVD for nearly 3 years now in conjunction with CloneDVD,CloneCD,CloneDVDMobile and also DVDShrink and not encountered a single disc that couldn't be copied....oops,i mean backed up.

i'm also looking forward to the release of CloneDVD3 :) with the current version being 2.9.0.3, version 3 might be here in 2007??

[duckone]

You know it maybe you need to purchase the software??
If you are tring to get it from one of the web sites that post illegal software
you will have problems.:doh:

[KoRn]

i'm also looking forward to the release of CloneDVD3 :) with the current version being 2.9.0.3, version 3 might be here in 2007??

Maybe with Blu-ray and HD DVD support.

[Coaster]

I can only echo the same comment posted by the majority of Members who have posted in this thread. The AnyDVD-CloneDVD software combination works as advertised. As being a user of AnyDVD since its first released over 4 years ago I can attest that AnyDVD works. Either flexibilis problem is user error or a software conflict error problem.

Coaster

[SlyFox 1]

Hi and Welcome to the forum everyone, I am here to answer all of your question so please lets take one thing at a time and we will solve them all, thanks.

[Wally_Mac]

I have to echo "Coaster's comments....
The combination of (the latest versions) AnyDVD-CloneDVD software combination works very well and as promised.
Over the past several years I've tried several packages including DVDShrink, 1Click DVD Copy, DVDFab as well as MacThe Ripper and DVD2One (the latter two being for Mac OS X).
I'll stick with AnyDVD and CloneDVD2; the best overall track record and best perfomance.

[stevesm1994]

I too have never ever had a problem with shink and any dvd but sometimes you might have to uninstall shrink and then re-install it it will fix mysterious problems sometimes also do you have enough system memory or something else not pulling all memory down

[Kennyg]

Having used Any DVD and Clone DVD along with Clone CDfor the past three years I can say it has worked 100% of the time..

[freddyy99]

Its disturbing to read a post where someone says that anydvd is useless,as anyone with any knowledge who uses it,knows its the best program for what it does,period. It was equally annoying to hear all the folks who were dissing anydvd when it took them a couple of days to release the full update, which they were obviously waiting to get it as near perfect as it could be.
My hat goes off to all the folks at Slysoft for such a great product!

[bilbo65]

I've had a couple of problems in the past with AnyDVD, but I, unlike most people, will readily admit they were due to "cockpit errors". :D :D :D

[tazzyd]

I must say that I find AnyDVD completely useless. There was only 1 DVD that I could copy with AnyDVD, which Shrink DVD had problems with. This was the reason I bought AnyDVD. But since then, there was NOTa single DVD that AnyDVD could handle which also Shrink DVD wasn't able to.
Usually a read error is reported at approx. 30%, and when clicking Yes to ignore read errors, it's always the end of the story: the transfer rate drops to 0.0 and that's it. However, the original DVDs play perfectly fine in both the PC and a standalone player. And AnyDVD reports no problems whatsoever, when browsing the DVD at the beginning.
So I'd find these frequent updates nice, if they were of any help, but they proved to be just annoying to me.
Any comment?
:mad:
i have never encountered a dvd i couldn't rip with anydvd installed. Been using it for a while , must be a problem with pc or your download

[Vae]

Problem exists between keyboard and chair.

:agree:

[jrplunkt]

I am using AnyDVD with 1ClickDVD and have had no problems whatsoever.

[Androo79]

I must say that I find AnyDVD completely useless. There was only 1 DVD that I could copy with AnyDVD, which Shrink DVD had problems with. This was the reason I bought AnyDVD. But since then, there was NOTa single DVD that AnyDVD could handle which also Shrink DVD wasn't able to.
Usually a read error is reported at approx. 30%, and when clicking Yes to ignore read errors, it's always the end of the story: the transfer rate drops to 0.0 and that's it. However, the original DVDs play perfectly fine in both the PC and a standalone player. And AnyDVD reports no problems whatsoever, when browsing the DVD at the beginning.
So I'd find these frequent updates nice, if they were of any help, but they proved to be just annoying to me.
Any comment?
:mad:

AnyDVD should not be used as the ripper. It should be left on in the background to do it job, killing the copy protection. With AnyDVD on you can copy with DVD Shrink, Nero, CloneDVD2, or anything else that works.

[flexibilis]

Thank you all for your comments. Well, I was suspecting that something is wrong with my environment because there is so much praise about AnyDVD. But I wanted to stir up an uproar to see whether my suspicion was correct.

The issue is, though, that I usually don't have any problems ripping with Shrink DVD, but when I do, AnyDVD throws the towel as well. But the original DVD plays perfectly well, so it's not a problem of bad media and neither of the DVD burner!
My environment is:
- Windows XP Pro
- 2 GB memory
- 80 GB free disk space
- PHILIPS DVD+-RW DVD8701

So what can be the cause of the problem?

[Debra]

I'm really surprised that you are having so much trouble. I have only had Clone DVD and Any DVD for a couple of months and have never had a problem. I've recommended it to several of friends and they also have had no problems. I agree with several of the posts that maybe you need to update your hardware!

[James]

Thank you all for your comments. Well, I was suspecting that something is wrong with my environment because there is so much praise about AnyDVD. But I wanted to stir up an uproar to see whether my suspicion was correct.

The issue is, though, that I usually don't have any problems ripping with Shrink DVD, but when I do, AnyDVD throws the towel as well. But the original DVD plays perfectly well, so it's not a problem of bad media and neither of the DVD burner!
My environment is:
- Windows XP Pro
- 2 GB memory
- 80 GB free disk space
- PHILIPS DVD+-RW DVD8701

So what can be the cause of the problem?
I already answered you: Check AnyDVD safe mode setting. Check IDE drivers.

[psc143]

I must also add to the praises of the Slysoft products....I have used them for quite some time...both AnyDVD and CLONEDVD... and have only encountered a few problems, which I attribute to bad media. I don't mean to be presumptious, but you DO understand that when one says BAD MEDIA, they are referring to the media that you use to copy your movie to...not the original media that the movie is recorded on? I, too think it might be a problem related to your computer. I hope you are able to solve it soon...there is no joy like popping a movie in the drive, cranking up CLONEDVD, with AnyDVD in the background and doing other things till your movie is read and then putting in your own media and pulling out a perfect copy when the programs are all finished! I simply cannot praise the Slysoft company enough!!!:agree:

[sytyguy]

I like many here have rarely had a problem with AnyDvd, and when there are problems they are quickly resolved by SlySoft......best investment ever.
But the original DVD plays perfectly well, so it's not a problem of bad media and neither of the DVD burner!
Just because the original disc plays perfectly does not mean anything, outside the fact that it can be played without read errors, of course it is going to play correctly, the copy protection is not meant to stop it from playing, but rather to prevent ripping.

I think when people are talking about media, they are talking about the brand name of discs you are using to burn, but you are obviously are not getting to the burning phase.

Is you firmware on your burner up to date.....someone gave you a link to find out, did you bother to look?

Best of luck.

[ventor]

Your problem is without doubt hardware. Never found a DVD that did not burn and burn properly w/ anydvd+clone dvd.
Try a different burner and if it continues to be a problem look a other hardware. There are not issues w/these great programs.

[flexibilis]

I already answered you: Check AnyDVD safe mode setting. Check IDE drivers.
James, I just tried again using Safe Mode and Logging: same results, Shrink DVD reports a CRC error.
AnyDVD reports this about the disk:

Summary for drive D: (AnyDVD 6.1.1.3)
PHILIPS DVD+-RW DVD8701 5D24 MY0M97537015957L081F
Drive (Hardware) Region: 2

Media is a Data DVD.
Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 2 (opposite)
Size of first Layer: 1977552 sectors (3862 MBytes)
Total size: 3008464 sectors (5875 MBytes)

Video DVD (or CD) label: NEU_SCN
Media is not CSS protected.
Video Standard: PAL
Media is locked to region(s): 2!

RCE protection not found.
DVD structure appears to be correct.
Structural copy protection not found.
Autorun not found on Video DVD.
Bad sector protection not found.
Emulating RPC-2 drive with region 2

[larryward]

I use any dvd, clone dvd, Apollo dvd, DVD Shrink, DVD 95 pro, and have never had any problems using any DVD as the start mechanism. Used correctly and updated eliminates any problems to date. You should update your any DVD, and Clone DVD often to insure compatibility with the newer protection schemes. Any DVD is the best program on the market along with DVD clone. Good copying for all. Thanks a million.

[KDH]

There seems to be little point in this forum for Anydvd specifically, since most of the problems encountered are not Anydvd but either the copy software or your system.
Post a log of the copy software you are using and let people see what is happening. It will answer a lot of questions and you may get some help, but stumbling about blind is pointless.

[sytyguy]

flexibilis,

I think the discs you are trying to backup have legitmate read errors. Just because it can be played in your player does not mean it doesn't have errors, keep in mind that players do not necessarily read the entire disc, however, rippers like DVDShrink do read every byte on the disc, so they are more prone to find read errors. Do you see any scratches on the discs, try cleaning it, Windex works well with a very smooth cloth or cotton ball, but scratches are a different story.

[SlyFox 1]

James, I just tried again using Safe Mode and Logging: same results, Shrink DVD reports a CRC error.
AnyDVD reports this about the disk:

Summary for drive D: (AnyDVD 6.1.1.3)
PHILIPS DVD+-RW DVD8701 5D24 MY0M97537015957L081F
Drive (Hardware) Region: 2

Media is a Data DVD.
Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 2 (opposite)
Size of first Layer: 1977552 sectors (3862 MBytes)
Total size: 3008464 sectors (5875 MBytes)

Video DVD (or CD) label: NEU_SCN
Media is not CSS protected.
Video Standard: PAL
Media is locked to region(s): 2!

RCE protection not found.
DVD structure appears to be correct.
Structural copy protection not found.
Autorun not found on Video DVD.
Bad sector protection not found.
Emulating RPC-2 drive with region 2
Shrink DVD is an old unsupported program, it still has alot of merit and was always great, but see if CloneDVD2 gives you that error, you can try it for free for 21 days. Just a thought.:agree:

[ttocsmij]

Since AnyDVD/CloneDVD always works for my simple needs I haven't spent much studying the report that AnyDVD provides but could someone knowledgeable in these things take a look at flexibilis' AnyDVD report (http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=1223&postcount=39) and report back anything that looks funky.

In the mean time, flexibilis should have checked to see that he has the latest IDE drivers.

And a quick Google reveals that most power users crossflash this drive to a Benq 1640. If I followed the various Google search result links properly, this Philips drive (the 8701 with 5D24 firmware) is a re-packaged Benq drive. Crossflashing it to the Benq 1640 apparently improves its performance and adds some new capabilities. It sounds like something flexibilis should check out. I am new and don't know if it is proper to leave links to other forums but flexibilis will find the same informations I did if flexibilis just Googles "PHILIPS DVD8701 5D24".

Best of luck flexibilis. I am sure the forum community can work together to help you solve this problem although you might get re-directed to a different part of the forum where different resources are availalble (so be fore-warned).

P.S. I just Googled "NEU_SCN" and a couple Deutsche links came up. Translating the first seems to suggest that when the DVD Title is listed as "NEU_SCN" it indicates that the drive was not able to properly read the disc. Perhaps one of our Deutsch friends could tell us what the phrase "NEU_SCN" means. Anyhow, the gist of the thread I was reading was that it was drive-related. So maybe crossflashing that Philips would solve the problem (assuming it is in the firmware-hardware interaction). Just a thought.

[flexibilis]

Just downloaded and installed Clone DVD. When trying to copy the problematic DVD, Clone DVD also reports a CRC error at the very same location. Of course, I would also deduce immediately that the DVD is faulty, but again it plays perfectly well at this spot also.

There was one odd thing, though, when installing Clone DVD: I got a message saying something like "the program cannot be started because framedyn.dll cannot be found. A new installation could solve the problem." But after clicking OK, the installation continues and looks all right.

So could this framedyn.dll issue have something to do with the problem and how can I get this dll?

[mmdavis]

I have had that problem also. Go to the Microsoft Support page for the easy to fix solution: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/319114

[Bulldog]

I have yet to find ANY disk as yet that won't rip using AnyDVD. I have been using it for well over a year now. It has worked flawlessly in that time. I saw where someone had problems with Saw III and I had no problem at all with that DVD.

[Zhopnik66]

I must say that I find AnyDVD completely useless. There was only 1 DVD that I could copy with AnyDVD, which Shrink DVD had problems with. This was the reason I bought AnyDVD. But since then, there was NOTa single DVD that AnyDVD could handle which also Shrink DVD wasn't able to.
Usually a read error is reported at approx. 30%, and when clicking Yes to ignore read errors, it's always the end of the story: the transfer rate drops to 0.0 and that's it. However, the original DVDs play perfectly fine in both the PC and a standalone player. And AnyDVD reports no problems whatsoever, when browsing the DVD at the beginning.
So I'd find these frequent updates nice, if they were of any help, but they proved to be just annoying to me.
Any comment?
:mad:
You must be doing something wrong...I have never had a movie I couldn't copy. I love AnyDVD!!!

[flexibilis]

I have had that problem also. Go to the Microsoft Support page for the easy to fix solution: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/319114
mmdavis, thank you, I went to the Microsoft site and followed the instructions.

[bjproc]

mmdavis, thank you, I went to the Microsoft site and followed the instructions.
did that link help you ?

[flexibilis]

I just Googled "NEU_SCN" and a couple Deutsche links came up. Translating the first seems to suggest that when the DVD Title is listed as "NEU_SCN" it indicates that the drive was not able to properly read the disc. Perhaps one of our Deutsch friends could tell us what the phrase "NEU_SCN" means. Anyhow, the gist of the thread I was reading was that it was drive-related. So maybe crossflashing that Philips would solve the problem (assuming it is in the firmware-hardware interaction). Just a thought.

I happen to be "one of our Deutsch friends" myself and googled for NEU_SCN. One guy can't read a DVD that's reported with a disk ID of NEU_SCN. But the other 3 hits just list the data of 3 DVDs with NEU_SCN as being the regular ID of side A. BTW, NEU_SCN just means NEW_SCN, but SCN must be some acronym. All the DVDs I had problems with were indeed from the German market. Could it be that this points to a new copy protection scheme that you guys elsewhere haven't encountered yet?

[ttocsmij]

Just downloaded and installed Clone DVD. When trying to copy the problematic DVD, Clone DVD also reports a CRC error at the very same location. Of course, I would also deduce immediately that the DVD is faulty, but again it plays perfectly well at this spot also.

There was one odd thing, though, when installing Clone DVD: I got a message saying something like "the program cannot be started because framedyn.dll cannot be found. A new installation could solve the problem." But after clicking OK, the installation continues and looks all right.

So could this framedyn.dll issue have something to do with the problem and how can I get this dll?

As sytyguy pointed out earlier, DVD players do not read every bit on playback. In case the point of that is not clear, please allow me to expand that ... in other words, disc players do not perform CRC checking so it is possible to have a defect or two on discs that play just fine (thank God given the relative fragility of this medium). However, disc copiers read every bit so they can generate a CRC (a standard for checking that data is read properly). As a result, any defect can cause a disc copy to fail. The reason is that since this is all digital, there is virtually no way to tell if a single CRC failure will cause the copy to malfunction, so disc copiers usually stop right there. Disc players are displaying so many frames per second that if one frame here and there does not decode properly it isn't noticeable because the next frame just comes along and overlays it. You have to get a lot of bad data in a row to throw off a disc player.

Hope that helps a little. BTW, did you find any defects on your disc? Is it possible to borrow the same disc from a pal to see if there is a CRC error in the same spot? There are also some utilities that can deep-scan discs and create more detailed reports. If you want to go to that length, I am sure one of the more experienced folks here or at CDFreaks.com can provide you with a program link or two to check out.

[ttocsmij]

I happen to be "one of our Deutsch friends" myself and googled for NEU_SCN. One guy can't read a DVD that's reported with a disk ID of NEU_SCN. But the other 3 hits just list the data of 3 DVDs with NEU_SCN as being the regular ID of side A. BTW, NEU_SCN just means NEW_SCN, but SCN must be some acronym. All the DVDs I had problems with were indeed from the German market. Could it be that this points to a new copy protection scheme that you guys elsewhere haven't encountered yet?

Ach! Alles ist jetzt klar! (As my friend Jens from Mannheim used to say.) Thank you for clearing that up. And your patience as we work through this.

There always seems to be some new whiz kid copy protection scheme coming out of the woodwork ... although the SONY fiasco seems to have them checking more carefully.

What do you think of the crossflash idea? I've never done that but it seems fairly reasonable.

TschuB und viel gluck! (And now we've worked most of the way through my phrase cheat sheet.) :o

[flexibilis]

ttocsmij, thank you. I will try to get another original copy of the same disk to check whether I get the same error at the same spot.

BTW, why can't a copy program just optionally skip the spot with CRC errors? They obviously don't do any visible harm when playing the DVD, so if the copier skips a few bytes that won't be visible as well. The AnyDVD ripper does provide the option to ignore read errors, but I haven't found this to be a solution to my problem.

[flexibilis]

What do you think of the crossflash idea? I've never done that but it seems fairly reasonable.


I don't favor the crossflash idea, because the drive works fine for everything else, and I don't want to screw it up. At least, I'm going to dig into this problem with another original copy of the DVD to see whether this gives the same problem.

[flexibilis]

did that link help you ?

Yes, it helped getting rid of the error message when installing/updating the software. But it didn't solve my DVD problem.

[TPLAT]

Do a Google search for VSO Inspector and use it to scan your disc(s) for errors. When it comes to errors on a disc it is more forgiving for a dvd player to play past or through them then it is when trying to copy one. If the original disc has errors in the right spot that would make it almost impossible to back up.

[Smooth]

np at all with these 2 great programs.

[Terrabyte]

I must say that I find AnyDVD completely useless. There was only 1 DVD that I could copy with AnyDVD, which Shrink DVD had problems with. This was the reason I bought AnyDVD. But since then, there was NOTa single DVD that AnyDVD could handle which also Shrink DVD wasn't able to.
Usually a read error is reported at approx. 30%, and when clicking Yes to ignore read errors, it's always the end of the story: the transfer rate drops to 0.0 and that's it. However, the original DVDs play perfectly fine in both the PC and a standalone player. And AnyDVD reports no problems whatsoever, when browsing the DVD at the beginning.
So I'd find these frequent updates nice, if they were of any help, but they proved to be just annoying to me.
Any comment?
:mad:

I am totally amazed that you condemn AnyDVD as "completely useless" when the real problem is obviously the way you are using the application.

When the the vast majority have no problems with the application, only goes to prove that you or your computer is the problem.:doh:

[bilbo65]

James, I just tried again using Safe Mode and Logging: same results, Shrink DVD reports a CRC error.
AnyDVD reports this about the disk:

Summary for drive D: (AnyDVD 6.1.1.3)
PHILIPS DVD+-RW DVD8701 5D24 MY0M97537015957L081F
Drive (Hardware) Region: 2

Media is a Data DVD.
Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 2 (opposite)
Size of first Layer: 1977552 sectors (3862 MBytes)
Total size: 3008464 sectors (5875 MBytes)

Video DVD (or CD) label: NEU_SCN
Media is not CSS protected.
Video Standard: PAL
Media is locked to region(s): 2!

RCE protection not found.
DVD structure appears to be correct.
Structural copy protection not found.
Autorun not found on Video DVD.
Bad sector protection not found.
Emulating RPC-2 drive with region 2

Copying a copy......

[James]

Copying a copy......
Unlikely: Media is locked to region(s): 2!

[flexibilis]

I am totally amazed that you condemn AnyDVD as "completely useless" when the real problem is obviously the way you are using the application.

When the the vast majority have no problems with the application, only goes to prove that you or your computer is the problem.:doh:

I only hope that you'll never be called for jury service, because this is not at all sufficient prove that AnyDVD is NOT the problem. :disagree:

More substantial evidence would be to test the case with a different original copy of the same DVD title. That's exactly what I'm going to do this week, and then let's see.

[ttocsmij]

Terrabyte, bilbo65, James, et al ... flexibilis has a plan of action (to obtain and test another disc like the one he has) and maybe run VSO Inspector ... so let's leave him alone to do that, okay? He'll get back to us no matter what so let's standby (unless someone comes up with another real whiz-bang suggestion of what to look for), eh? :agree:

P.S. AnyDVD 6.1.1.4 is out. It has a long list of "stuff" so maybe they've found and fixed something related to this. I don't know if flexibilis has tried it yet but let's assume he's smart enough to try it before we all ask him, ok?

[jvc]

Some drives definately read better than others. I use a dvd rom drive to read, and then use my burner. There have been two or three occaisions, that my rom drive got nothing but read errors, no matter what I did. I finally thought I'd try letting my burner read, as well as burn. That took care of the problem everytime. If you're using a rom drive to read, try letting your burner read also. If your burner is already reading and burning, then I'd try to check for possible firmware update, or get a new burner. Burners are pretty cheap these days..................
Good luck!

[bigd606]

I've never had any problems. I even tried the so called dreaded Sony dvds with no problem. Your issues must lie somewhere else...not with this software, in my opinion.

[Webslinger]

Summary for drive D: (AnyDVD 6.1.1.3)

Use Anydvd 6.1.1.4 or later

[flexibilis]

Terrabyte, bilbo65, James, et al ... flexibilis has a plan of action (to obtain and test another disc like the one he has) and maybe run VSO Inspector ... so let's leave him alone to do that, okay? He'll get back to us no matter what so let's standby (unless someone comes up with another real whiz-bang suggestion of what to look for), eh? :agree:

P.S. AnyDVD 6.1.1.4 is out. It has a long list of "stuff" so maybe they've found and fixed something related to this. I don't know if flexibilis has tried it yet but let's assume he's smart enough to try it before we all ask him, ok?

I've returned the culprit DVD today and have ordered a new original copy. I won't upgrade to AnyDVD 6.1.1.4 before I tested the new DVD with the current version to avoid mixing up the test conditions.:)

[Webslinger]

I've returned the culprit DVD today and have ordered a new original copy. I won't upgrade to AnyDVD 6.1.1.4 before I tested the new DVD with the current version to avoid mixing up the test conditions.:)

6.1.1.3 contains a known bug that has caused problems; using it is illogical at best.

[flexibilis]

6.1.1.3 contains a known bug that has caused problems; using it is illogical at best.

Changing the DVD and the SW release at the same time wouldn't prove where the problem was if the new DVD is read fine. I'll first change the DVD "parameter", then the software "parameter". I want to get to the bottom of this to know whether my previous problems were really caused by faults on the original DVD.

[Webslinger]

Changing the DVD and the SW release at the same time wouldn't prove where the problem was if the new DVD is read fine. I'll first change the DVD "parameter", then the software "parameter". I want to get to the bottom of this to know whether my previous problems were really caused by faults on the original DVD.

What if your problem is unique and was created by a combination of a faulty disc and a bug in 6.1.1.3?

/shrug

Whatever makes you happy . . .

[TPLAT]

What if your problem is unique and was created by a combination of a faulty disc and a bug in 6.1.1.3?

/shrug

Whatever makes you happy . . .

Thats a possiblity, but also when trying to figure out the exact cause of a problem its best to try changing one thing at a time, if you go changing mulitple things at one time and it works then its a guessing game on which change helped and what was the cause of the problem.

[Webslinger]

Thats a possiblity, but also when trying to figure out the exact cause of a problem its best to try changing one thing at a time

I agree. For what it's worth, I happen to suspect, in your case, the problem is the original disc. Hopefully, a new one will correct the issue.

[sigrun]

Any comment?:mad:
The manner in which you have explained your allegations defies them credibility with those of us (A) who understand AnyDVD's purpose and (B) how to use the app to that end. Try again? :clap:

[kittyprincess66]

Wait...Wouldn't you be upset. If you were having problems. Before I have to read any more holier than thou posts, please...If you have something constructive to add, by all means do it.

If you are just going to toot your own horn and gloat about how it worked for you and this user is a bone head "problem between seat and keyboard"...well that does not help solve this persons issue, nor does it make them very comfortable at a forum.

Additionally. Everyone's system is a little different. What works for you may not work for everyone. I am not a mod here but I will leave this forum if all it is going to be about is superior attitudes. This should be a place for helping attitudes.

To those who did help, sorry this was not meant for you. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr.

[locoeng]

I completely agree with what you say 100% princess, however the addition of "Any Comment?" led me to believe that the bait has been set and a bite (fight) is what was intended. Good to see that after the initial snap judgement that flexibilis is trying to resolve his issue through his own routes and with the help of some posters.

[Webslinger]

I am not a mod here but I will leave this forum if all it is going to be about is superior attitudes. This should be a place for helping attitudes.


Now, now. There's no reason to be leaving. We're all here to help each other with Slysoft products, right? :clap: :)

[locoeng]

Yes please stick around...it's nice to have pretty ladies that know their stuff around the forums.

[James]

If you are just going to toot your own horn and gloat about how it worked for you and this user is a bone head "problem between seat and keyboard"...well that does not help solve this persons issue, nor does it make them very comfortable at a forum.

You are right, expressions like "problem between seat and keyboard" are rude.

[kittyprincess66]

You have a point locoeng, I just interpreted it as a cry for help. Perhaps something to get the slysoft team interested in making their software NOT useless. But now that you mention it it does sound a little baiting.

I debated the title to 'AnyDVD hates me...' for awhile. It was difficult trying to decide what would gain help and express displeasure without putting people on the defense. It is kinda hard here among the converted, and I almost did not join in after reading the responses to the original poster here.

As you said I do believe this person is trying to work out their issues and that is good, I just couldn't stand the berating any more.

OH Yes, Ver 6.1.1.4 was using the 6.1.1.3 driver until a little while ago I think, so it may be prudent for flexibillis to dl and install again after that has been fixed. I am sure we'll see postings.

It will take more than a few boneheads to make me leave! :p But if there are enough of them I will be out speaking my mind and avoiding the forum. Nice to see all the kind replies.

[James]

OH Yes, Ver 6.1.1.4 was using the 6.1.1.3 driver until a little while ago I think, so it may be prudent for flexibillis to dl and install again after that has been fixed. I am sure we'll see postings.
This is intentional. Version 6.1.1.4 does ship with driver 6.1.1.3, as there were no changes needed (the bug which was fixed was in the AnyDVD.exe application).

[TPLAT]

No offense to anyone here but when a person has a problem(s) and expresses their disastifaction with a program all the praise for the program from others and or criticisim doenst help solve the problem, it only prolongs the process of trying to help they guy with his problem(s) and doesnt produce anything productive.

[kittyprincess66]

Thanks James, I had no idea how that worked. Another thread suggested this and a Slysoft team member was going to check. Thanks for clearing that up.

[sigrun]

Before I have to read any more holier than thou posts, please...If you have something constructive to add, by all means do it.
We did. Valid criticism per se does not ispso facto imply "hoilier than thou"(sic). That's either a comprehension or psychological insecurity issue you have to deal with if you choose to misinterpret any criticism it as such.

The original poster wrote a denigatory diatribe about AnyDVD which defied credibility be any measure of logic and requested "comments". He got them. More credibility in the replies than in his accusations. Although that was abundantly clear, apparently he wasn't aware of that and needed to be told to have any hope of effecting a workable solution.

Don't have to like the facts, but how one feels that doesn't alter them regardless of the deception of preferred perception. :doh:

[Webslinger]

I would really prefer if everyone would just help the OP fix his or her problem and not discuss the perceived faults of others, please. Thank you.

[Buddy]

:disagree: :D I have yet to have a problem making a copy of ANY movie using AnyDVD! AnyDVD is NOT a ripper, it's a Dycrypter! Using this with nearly any other ripper software will produce PERFECT results every time! I have used it with DVD Shrink, 1Click DVD Copy 5, CLONE DVD, and even Nero Recode, and it makes a PERFECT copy. The only problem I ever had was trying to make NERO push the burn speed of the DVD blank when making a copy of the whole DVD movie, but movies that I'm just making a copy of the Main Movie, I've never had a coaster made! I suggest you save your programs to a DVD, and re-format your HD, because you obviously have something wrong with your computers OS, you may have a Nasty ROOT Kit imbedded that won't allow you to make copys. ANYDVD ROCKS! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK GUYS!:bowdown:

[Clams]

Correct.... AnyDVD pretty much gets them all - regardless of the ripping/burning software you choose to use.

There is currently an issue with AnyDVD with SAW3 using SOME of the rippers out there. I'm sure it will be resolved soon.

-W

[MelonSplitter]

This is a hardware issue for sure!!!

[flexibilis]

Guys, my initial post was indeed meant somewhat to be a bait to see how much you defend your favorite product. The verve with which you've done that is indicative to the cause of the problem being somewhere at my side. Most probably it has been the DVD disk, but that I will see when I get the new one. It's still odd why this has happened with 5 or 6 other disks before, though.
Anyway, I'll let you know once I get the new disk.

BTW, no harm from the "between screen and chair". I enjoy a healthy bit of sarcasm (which may be due to my love of British comedy).8)

[Webslinger]

It's still odd why this has happened with 5 or 6 other disks before, though.


If you do encounter a problem in the future, please answer these questions when posting:

http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=321

Thank you.

[WiseMax]

Guys, my initial post was indeed meant somewhat to be a bait to see how much you defend your favorite product. The verve with which you've done that is indicative to the cause of the problem being somewhere at my side. Most probably it has been the DVD disk, but that I will see when I get the new one. It's still odd why this has happened with 5 or 6 other disks before, though.
Anyway, I'll let you know once I get the new disk.

BTW, no harm from the "between screen and chair". I enjoy a healthy bit of sarcasm (which may be due to my love of British comedy).8)


I encourage you (this is regardless of any problem that you may have experienced) to consider the great terms, support, free improvements in the software and sensible serial number software licensing policy of Slysoft and Elaborate Bytes as opposed to intrusive, distrusting and idiot "copyright protection" of many other companies in this area.

Then, consider also that I'm a customer of these guys from day one and I have experience ZERO problems with theyr products.

Finally, consider the fact that there are many more like me out there (and here).

THEN, you still have their support and this Forum.

Is anything at all still wrong after all this?...

You tell me.

I will be busy in the next room, using my favorite ripping/backup pair: AnyDVD + Clone DVD2 (or CloneDVD Mobile).

[pcb4]

I wonder if you have considered the media you are using. Any DVD works flawlessly on both my new computer and my ancient one. When there is a problem it is related to cheap media. I would suggest you try with Verbatim, the best media available on the market today.
I must say that I find AnyDVD completely useless. There was only 1 DVD that I could copy with AnyDVD, which Shrink DVD had problems with. This was the reason I bought AnyDVD. But since then, there was NOTa single DVD that AnyDVD could handle which also Shrink DVD wasn't able to.
Usually a read error is reported at approx. 30%, and when clicking Yes to ignore read errors, it's always the end of the story: the transfer rate drops to 0.0 and that's it. However, the original DVDs play perfectly fine in both the PC and a standalone player. And AnyDVD reports no problems whatsoever, when browsing the DVD at the beginning.
So I'd find these frequent updates nice, if they were of any help, but they proved to be just annoying to me.
Any comment?
:mad:

[naenyc]

Upon reading this fine thread, I decided to join.

It still isn't crystal clear how to handle read errors, which I've detected on a DVD using CloneDVD2 and AnyDVD. Locating a pristine source copy would be desirable, but not always possible.

- If and where is the setting to ignore/retry CRC errors.

- If non-existent, what is the recommended copy software. For a test, I'm currently burning with Nero.

- Are there any ramifications, other than glitch in viewing, for ignoring a multitude of sectors - such as index pointers pointing to those sectors which are now in the bit bucket.

Any help would be appreciated.

naenyc

[Webslinger]

- Are there any ramifications, other than glitch in viewing, for ignoring a multitude of sectors - such as index pointers pointing to those sectors which are now in the bit bucket.



Well, if you're brute force ripping past a flaw on the disc (scratches, defects, etc.) you can wear out your optical reader faster.

Clonedvd2 since version 2.8.8.1 has "New: Automatic read retries (20 times), allows copying of scratched discs", which I believe it does automatically.

Decrypter and other rippers can allow for brute force ripping past scratches, but it's still possible to run accross crc errors, and while I could be wrong, I don't believe, at that point, there's much you can do.

Frankly, the best solution is to exchange for another copy.

[naenyc]

Thanks, seems like attempting to use a disk that registers read errors, after the 20 or so retries, is unwise. At least I know I'm not missing anything.

naenyc

[Sweeper]

I am using AnyDvd 6114 and CloneDvd2 have been since it first came out I would not trade it in for anything else,I wish I could say I never had any problems, but most of them were fixed by the SlySoft team,I like to get the whole dvd copied but there are times, but not many when I can't,so I copy THE MOVIE ONLY without a problem thanks to SlySoft, and I am very satisfied
although most people have been able to copy the full Saw-3 movie I tried again with AD6114 still could not,but like I said I have the movie only and thats all I really wanted in the first place. Open Season is another one I could only get the movie,but I am as happy as a pig in s--t
thank you SlySoft for the best software in the world

[flexibilis]

I wonder if you have considered the media you are using. Any DVD works flawlessly on both my new computer and my ancient one. When there is a problem it is related to cheap media. I would suggest you try with Verbatim, the best media available on the market today.

I admit this thread is long, but if you had read my initial post you would have known that I haven't got to the writing step yet. This issue is about READING an ORIGINAL movie DVD.

[lordvader]

I am surprised at what has happened! I first used Dvd43free and usually got errors ,particularly on Disney, till I switched to AnyDVD. This was truly a blessed investment for me! I have copied all movies successfully since and not one time encountered an error! Absolutely no complaints here! :)

[flexibilis]

Today I got a new original copy of the culprit DVD, and guess what: the same problem, CRC errors!
Here are the facts:
1) The DVD has visible, slight scratches, but could go for “normal wear and tear”.
2) The DVD plays without any problems in a stand-alone DVD player.
3) PowerDVD on my Desktop stops responding at some point near the beginning when trying to view the DVD.
4) Using both DVD Shrink and CloneDVD2 together with AnyDVD 6.1.1.4 is not possible due to CRC errors reported on my desktop.
5) CRC Inspector reports read problems with this DVD.
6) Using DVD Shrink (without AnyDVD) on my laptop (different DVD drive) also fails due to CRC errors.
7) CRC Inspector on my laptop also reports read errors.

To summarize: The DVD can be played perfectly fine on a regular stand-alone DVD player but can neither be viewed nor copied on a PC.
Isn’t this the perfect copy protection?

[Clams]

Today I got a new original copy of the culprit DVD, and guess what: the same problem, CRC errors!
Here are the facts:
1) The DVD has visible, slight scratches, but could go for “normal wear and tear”.
2) The DVD plays without any problems in a stand-alone DVD player.
3) PowerDVD on my Desktop stops responding at some point near the beginning when trying to view the DVD.
4) Using both DVD Shrink and CloneDVD2 together with AnyDVD 6.1.1.4 is not possible due to CRC errors reported on my desktop.
5) CRC Inspector reports read problems with this DVD.
6) Using DVD Shrink (without AnyDVD) on my laptop (different DVD drive) also fails due to CRC errors.
7) CRC Inspector on my laptop also reports read errors.

To summarize: The DVD can be played perfectly fine on a regular stand-alone DVD player but can neither be viewed nor copied on a PC.
Isn’t this the perfect copy protection?

Sounds to me like the optical drive on your PC is too picky. Even copy-protected DVD's will play on a PC - without AnyDVD at all.

-W

[sytyguy]

flexibilis,

Stand_alone DVD players are more forgiving than decryption software. Weird that Powerdvd did not play it however.

I guess another trip to the store is forthcoming.

[visionjinx]

i have used anydvd and shrink for a year or so. i have had no problems untill saw3 and open season. i downloaded clonedvd and i got it on the first try. i think it is something in your computer not the software.

[flexibilis]

I think you are not not exactly understanding what I'm saying:
- The DVD fails on two different PCs (one desktop and one laptop) with totally different hardware (both are from Dell though).

If the DVD plays perfectly in a stand-alone player, but not on a PC, this is exactly what the DVD publisher intends. It looks like the fact that a stand-alone DVD player is more forgiving is deliberately being used to implement the copy protection of this DVD.

This is the same situation I encountered with 5 or 6 other DVDs before, although I didn't conduct such systematic tests then as this time.

[Webslinger]

If the DVD plays perfectly in a stand-alone player, but not on a PC, this is exactly what the DVD publisher intends.

No. You are mistaken. They merely don't want it copied. And I fail to see why a brand new disc should be showing "wear and tear". Your standalone player may be more lax in playing past scratches and flaws than the drives on your computer.

Disable Anydvd. Do the movies still not play? Then the problem isn't anydvd, period. The problem is your drives or flaws in the original disc (or a combination thereof).

[hiro1030]

Use VSOInspector to check the condition of the original disc.

[sytyguy]

flexibilis,

The DVD has visible, slight scratches, but could go for “normal wear and tear

I understood you perfectly, and according to the above statement I would expect CRC errors.

[flexibilis]

Use VSOInspector to check the condition of the original disc.

This is what I did and VSO Inpector did report read errors. See what I wrote above.

[flexibilis]

Disable Anydvd. Do the movies still not play? Then the problem isn't anydvd, period. The problem is your drives or flaws in the original disc (or a combination thereof).

This is what I did on the 2nd PC. I didn't say that AnyDVD IS the problem, but I said it does NOT solve it.

Of course, I don't expect any software to magically repair a DVD that is not readable at all. But here is a case of a DVD that perfectly fulfills its purpose of being playable on a standard DVD player (which is probably what 90% of all customers use) although it exhibits CRC errors brought on either deliberately or accidentally when analyzed on a PC.

I'm saying that this looks like a deliberate copy protection scheme. The tiny percentage of people usually viewing DVDs on their PC instead of a regular player would just be acceptable collateral damage to the publishers in such a copy protection scheme.

[hiro1030]

This is what I did and VSO Inpector did report read errors. See what I wrote above.

Oops! Sorry about that.:p

So, now you know the problem is the original disc, right?

[flexibilis]

So, now you know the problem is the original disc, right?

Basically I'm at square two. I know that even a second original copy of a DVD cannot be copied or viewed on a PC but on a regular player. This is whether using AnyDVD or not.

[Webslinger]

This is what I did on the 2nd PC. I didn't say that AnyDVD IS the problem, but I said it does NOT solve it.

If you can't play the disc on your system, then it's highly unlikely Anydvd is going to be able to do much of anything other than possibly remove the protection on the disc. Anydvd doesn't have anything to do with repairing discs or fixing your computer's optical drives.

Of course, I don't expect any software to magically repair a DVD that is not readable at all. But here is a case of a DVD that perfectly fulfills its purpose of being playable on a standard DVD player (which is probably what 90% of all customers use) although it exhibits CRC errors brought on either deliberately or accidentally when analyzed on a PC.

This is not all that unusual. I've seen this many times. In all cases, the original disc was at fault (or in one case, one person was using an inferior optical drive that was dying).

I'm saying that this looks like a deliberate copy protection scheme.

And I'm saying you're wrong. There's absolutely nothing on this disc other than a region lock:

Media is a Data DVD.
Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 2 (opposite)
Size of first Layer: 1977552 sectors (3862 MBytes)
Total size: 3008464 sectors (5875 MBytes)

Video DVD (or CD) label: NEU_SCN
Media is not CSS protected.
Video Standard: PAL
Media is locked to region(s): 2!

RCE protection not found.
DVD structure appears to be correct.
Structural copy protection not found.
Autorun not found on Video DVD.
Bad sector protection not found.
Emulating RPC-2 drive with region 2

If you absolutely feel otherwise, then do this: http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=330

If you get read errors while trying to do it, then I'm sorry, but there's nothing we can do (the disc is damaged).

The tiny percentage of people usually viewing DVDs on their PC instead of a regular player would just be acceptable collateral damage to the publishers in such a copy protection scheme.

No. All dvds must conform to certain standards in order to play properly. The sony stuff bends the rules horribly (as do many protections), but the discs must still play properly--on standalones and on optical drives in computer systems. Manufacturers can't damage discs to the point where they are completely unplayable in dvd-rom drives.

But . . . you can find scratched discs (and even discs that don't have scratches) that will play in some drives but not in others. In almost all cases, the original disc is at fault unless the player is faulty.

[flexibilis]

If you absolutely feel otherwise, then do this: http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=330

Okay, I copied the IFO files to my hard disk w/o any problems and will send them to support.


But . . . you can find scratched discs (and even discs that don't have scratches) that will play in some drives but not in others. In all cases, the original disc is at fault unless the player is faulty.

So why can't software be made smart enough to emulate exactly what a regular player is able to do, namely be more forgiving in encountering CRC errors?

[bilbo65]

I believe you may mean "dumbed down" to emulate generic DVD players....;)

[sytyguy]

Basically I'm at square two. I know that even a second original copy of a DVD cannot be copied or viewed on a PC but on a regular player. This is whether using AnyDVD or not.
I mentioned this in an earlier post here. Keep in mind that a stand-alone DVD player does not necessarily read the entire disc (so it may not encounter the read errors), whereas decryption software does, and is less forgiving than the SA player.

[Webslinger]

So why can't software be made smart enough to emulate exactly what a regular player is able to do, namely be more forgiving in encountering CRC errors?

This is really more (hardware) dependant on the dvd-rom drive you use for reading, in my opinion. I know that's not a full answer, and some may argue with me. But that's the basic jist. Not all readers are the same.

I've come across some instances where a dvd-rom drive could play a movie (but did have problems ripping, normally) and a standalone player couldn't. Again, the problem was the original disc. Exchanging it (5 times, no less; the store loved me at the end of it) finally fixed the problem.

[flexibilis]

I believe you may mean "dumbed down" to emulate generic DVD players....;)

Whatever it takes...

[earthasa]

Hi Flex,
I didn't see a response to James@Slysoft's initial suggestions, and wanted to make sure you saw them:
It looks like AnyDVD is not working correctly on your machine. If shrink reports read errors AnyDVD was unable to do its job.
You can try to run AnyDVD in "Safe Mode" (Settings -> Program settings).
You sould use the Microsoft IDE/SATA drivers, not some fancy motherboard drivers which often cause a lot of weird problems.

Sorry to add to your long thread, if you did catch that.
Good luck!

[Pelvis Popcan]

The facts I have observed:

Recently, I have started seeing a lot of posts from people who get CRC errors while using AnyDVD.

On discs that only have CSS protection, they rip fine using other ripping programs without AnyDVD running.

Many dual layer discs get errors at the layer break with AnyDVD running (about 50% into the rip), regardless of the ripping program or method.

The problem is likely caused by certain makes and models of drives + their firmware "not being up to spec." For example late model Liteon drives have problems.

I have read some posts where people rolled back to an older version of AnyDVD, and the problems go away.

There seems to be a push on various forums by some people to either downplay the problem or blame the problem on other causes.

I remain hopeful that this will all get sorted out.

[Bunnyrip2]

I must say that I find AnyDVD completely useless. There was only 1 DVD that I could copy with AnyDVD, which Shrink DVD had problems with. This was the reason I bought AnyDVD. But since then, there was NOTa single DVD that AnyDVD could handle which also Shrink DVD wasn't able to.
Usually a read error is reported at approx. 30%, and when clicking Yes to ignore read errors, it's always the end of the story: the transfer rate drops to 0.0 and that's it. However, the original DVDs play perfectly fine in both the PC and a standalone player. And AnyDVD reports no problems whatsoever, when browsing the DVD at the beginning.
So I'd find these frequent updates nice, if they were of any help, but they proved to be just annoying to me.
Any comment?
:mad:
Let me 1st say that I used to be an Avid DVD XCopy user, till Resident Evil!:eek: A friend told me about AnyDVD, I tried it, was able to to back-up my Resident Evil, then I bought AnyDVD. I found at that time that using DVD Shrink with AnyDVD was pretty good. BUT.... As newer movies[ came out with more complicated protections, like bad sector protections, ripgaurd, arrccos, etc, I wanted something better, I tried CloneDVD 2. Voila! I found the combo that works for everything!:agree: I have been a Loyal & Very Happy Slysoft Product user ever since, and like others, I can tell you that I have yet to see a movie I can't back up successfully with the combo. I am also a member of another forum "AD" and it is pretty well known that most all people that have trouble with AnyDVD are either using 3rd party SATA/IDE drivers, like Nvidia's, or are using "cracks " for the "keys", others are still using older outdated programs like DVD Shrink, which was great in it's time. Point is, Slysoft has done an Outstanding job with AnyDVD & CloneDVD. I even purchased CloneCD, which I find Very Useful for Dual Layer back-ups with AnyDVD running. :) Bottom line: AnyDVD is The Best Money I ever spent on software, Period! My Only regret is that I didn't purchase all 3 AnyDVD, CloneDVD and CloneCD at once back then, I would have saved $$! Nevertheless, I was worth it, and still is The Best Money I have yet to spend! Thanks Slysoft!

[Clams]

Let me 1st say that I used to be an Avid DVD XCopy user, till Resident Evil!:eek: A friend told me about AnyDVD, I tried it, was able to to back-up my Resident Evil, then I bought AnyDVD. I found at that time that using DVD Shrink with AnyDVD was pretty good. BUT.... As newer movies[ came out with more complicated protections, like bad sector protections, ripgaurd, arrccos, etc, I wanted something better, I tried CloneDVD 2. Voila! I found the combo that works for everything!:agree: I have been a Loyal & Very Happy Slysoft Product user ever since, and like others, I can tell you that I have yet to see a movie I can't back up successfully with the combo. I am also a member of another forum "AD" and it is pretty well known that most all people that have trouble with AnyDVD are either using 3rd party SATA/IDE drivers, like Nvidia's, or are using "cracks " for the "keys", others are still using older outdated programs like DVD Shrink, which was great in it's time. Point is, Slysoft has done an Outstanding job with AnyDVD & CloneDVD. I even purchased CloneCD, which I find Very Useful for Dual Layer back-ups with AnyDVD running. :) Bottom line: AnyDVD is The Best Money I ever spent on software, Period! My Only regret is that I didn't purchase all 3 AnyDVD, CloneDVD and CloneCD at once back then, I would have saved $$! Nevertheless, I was worth it, and still is The Best Money I have yet to spend! Thanks Slysoft!

Were you a cheerleader in real life ?? :D

[Webslinger]

There seems to be a push on various forums by some people to either downplay the problem or blame the problem on other causes.[/list]

I remain hopeful that this will all get sorted out.

Please tell me how Anydvd is going to resolve people not being able to play dvd movies on their systems even when Anydvd is disabled/not running. The OP can't play the original discs on his system with Anydvd disabled. Is this the same problem you're having? No.

[TPLAT]

flexibilis, have you ever tried using a laser lens cleaner in your drives? If its only doing it with one movie on more then one pc then I would start to wonder if you got another bad source disc, especialy if you got a replacement dvd from the same place.

[Coaster]

.....If the DVD plays perfectly in a stand-alone player, but not on a PC, this is exactly what the DVD publisher intends. It looks like the fact that a stand-alone DVD player is more forgiving is deliberately being used to implement the copy protection of this DVD.....

Flexibilis -

If a DVD Movie that has the DVD Logo on it fails to play correctly in ANY DVD device that contains the DVD Logo on the device the DVD Movie is by rigid clearly defined definition defective.

By International Law a DVD Movie that contains the DVD Logo has to play on ANY device that contains the DVD Logo.

It doesn’t matter what the DVD Movie manufacture intension is if the DVD Movie manufacture wants to call his product a “DVD” the DVD Movie manufacture has to insure that the product he manufactures as a “DVD” plays in ANY DVD device. The DVD Movie manufacture cannot by Law use the DVD Logo on his products if they fail to play in DVD Logo devices.

This is exactly where the problem lies. The DVD Movie manufactures are not manufacturing DVD Movies that meet the rigid “DVD” speciation.

The remedy is to return the defectively manufactured DVD Movie and demand a replacement or a refund. The remedy is not to unjustly place fault on SlySoft or any other software product.

Regards,
Coaster