Plextor PX-760A & Duo Core 2

[tmckin1211]

I just installed a new Plextor PX-760A for my new Duo Core 2 computer seeing I was having problems with the Plextor 810SA. My problems just increased, I hooked it up to Master, PATA and nothing, I changed the jumper to Cable Select and it now reads. I then tried to copy a movie, the burner said it would take 184 minutes to write, after twenty minutes and only at 5% I figure something not right. I am using Verbatim 18X DVD-R. Now I am totally lost on what to do. Help! :confused:

[DetroitBaseball]

13. My burns are taking forever to complete suddenly. Why?

a) Is DMA enabled for your drives in
i) Windows XP?
ii) Windows Vista?
iii) general?

b) Is the original source disc bad? If so, the reading process will take longer.
Download Nero cd-dvd speed. It's a free program. Select the tab labeled "scandisc". Select the appropriate drive letter, and click "start". If Nero cd-dvd speed reports read errors, your disc is bad and needs to be exchanged--even if it plays fine (or your optical drive could be slowly dying).

c) Did you select an appropriate burn speed in Clonedvd? Obviously 4x is going to take longer than 12x.

d) Try another cable on the back of your burner (try an 80 wire cable if you have an ide burner). Maybe your existing cable has gone bad.

e) Try defragmenting your hard drive.

f) Ensure speed control is unchecked in Anydvd (or at least, ensure "Slow and Quiet" is not enabled).

[tmckin1211]

13. My burns are taking forever to complete suddenly. Why?

a) Is DMA enabled for your drives in
i) Windows XP?
ii) Windows Vista?
iii) general?

b) Is the original source disc bad? If so, the reading process will take longer.
Download Nero cd-dvd speed. It's a free program. Select the tab labeled "scandisc". Select the appropriate drive letter, and click "start". If Nero cd-dvd speed reports read errors, your disc is bad and needs to be exchanged--even if it plays fine (or your optical drive could be slowly dying).

c) Did you select an appropriate burn speed in Clonedvd? Obviously 4x is going to take longer than 12x.

d) Try another cable on the back of your burner (try an 80 wire cable if you have an ide burner). Maybe your existing cable has gone bad.

e) Try defragmenting your hard drive.

f) Ensure speed control is unchecked in Anydvd (or at least, ensure "Slow and Quiet" is not enabled).

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I am using XP, I have no idea how to turn on or off DMA.

The source disc was good, burned perfectly on the Sony.

CloneDVD2 is set at maxinum.

Already replaced cable that was my first thought when it was set on master.

Defrag computer last night.

AnyDvd speed is checked, but not "Slow and Quiet", I am getting the feeling I got SCRE... on the burner.

Performed scandisc with Nero, in the Sony burner the disc is fine. Everything is pointing at the Plextor, again, unless the DMA is off or something. When I changed the jumper to Cable Select it reading Slave that does not seem right to me. All Hard Drives and other burner are SATA, it shouuld of worked on Master, right?

[DetroitBaseball]

To check for DMA, go into the Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Computer Management, Device Manager, IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers.

[Webslinger]

1. (click the appropriate link)
a) Is DMA enabled for your drives in
i) Windows XP (http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=7625)?
ii) Windows Vista (http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=1712831&postcount=6)?
iii) general (http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=101616)?

2. The PX-760a requires an 80 wire ide cable. Ensure you're not use a 40 wire ide cable.

http://www.mikeshardware.com/pics/ide8040pin.jpg
(from Mikeshardware.com)

For the 80 wire cable . . .
Blue (sometimes red) end goes into the motherboard; black end goes into your burner. Grey end goes to the slave device. Ensure jumper on the back of the burner is set to "master", and that the jumper on the back of the slave device is set to "slave".

[tmckin1211]

1. (click the appropriate link)
a) Is DMA enabled for your drives in
i) Windows XP (http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=7625)?
ii) Windows Vista (http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=1712831&postcount=6)?
iii) general (http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=101616)?

2. The PX-760a requires an 80 wire ide cable. Ensure you're not use a 40 wire ide cable.

http://www.mikeshardware.com/pics/ide8040pin.jpg
(from Mikeshardware.com)

For the 80 wire cable . . .
Blue (sometimes red) end goes into the motherboard; black end goes into your burner. Grey end goes to the slave device. Ensure jumper on the back of the burner is set to "master", and that the jumper on the back of the slave device is set to "slave".

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The DMA is set Ultra 5 ..

Please confirm Burner setting if running straight from the IDE port to the Burner, not any other devies. Master or Slave? On Master it did not read or write, on Cable Select it reading Slave it can read and burns very, very slowly.

I do not have the 80 pin cable, neither does my other computers that has two Plextors, is this is because I am using a Duo Core? I just used the one that came with the burner.

[DetroitBaseball]

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The DMA is set Ultra 5 ..

Please confirm Burner setting if running straight from the IDE port to the Burner, not any other devies. Master or Slave? On Master it did read or write on Cable Select it reading Slave it can read and burns very, very slowly.

I do not have the 80 pin cable, neither does my other computer that has two Plextors, is this is because I am using a Duo Core? I just used the one that came with the burner.
PX760A needs 80 wire though.

[tmckin1211]

I going up to Bestbuy and get a 80 pin. Seeing no other device is attach to the strap what color go where and what should I set the jumper Master or Slave?

[Webslinger]

I going up to Bestbuy and get a 80 pin. Seeing no other device is attach to the strap what color go where and what should I set the jumper Master or Slave?

80 wire--not pin . . .

Master.

Blue (sometimes red) end goes into the motherboard; black end goes into your burner. Ensure jumper on the back of the burner is set to "master"

[Webslinger]

is this is because I am using a Duo Core?

No. That refers to your CPU only.

[tmckin1211]

Got it! I am on to Bestbuy. Thanks.

[oldjoe]

You most likely already have 80 wire cable. If the MOBO, that you are using the dual core CPU on, come with IDE cable(s)...........they are 80 wire.

[oldjoe]

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The DMA is set Ultra 5 ..

Please confirm Burner setting if running straight from the IDE port to the Burner, not any other devies. Master or Slave? On Master it did not read or write, on Cable Select it reading Slave it can read and burns very, very slowly.

I do not have the 80 pin cable, neither does my other computers that has two Plextors, is this is because I am using a Duo Core? I just used the one that came with the burner.

The cable that came with the Plextor is an 80 wire.

[Webslinger]

I just used the one that came with the burner.

I missed reading that part, sorry. Yes, the cable that comes with the PX-760a is an 80 wire cable.

If setting the jumper to master--and installing the cable properly doesn't help, the next thing I would look at is your filters.

1. a) Download imgburn. It's a free program: http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
(it's also an excellent program imo)

b) Go to Tools > Filter Driver Load Order. Click "Clipboard". Then paste the information you pasted into your clipboard into your next post (ctrl-v).

2. And you may want to try ensuring you're using the standard ide busmaster drivers. Visit http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=1455402&postcount=3

3. Also Plextor has toll-free technical support. You may want to try calling them to see what they say.

[DetroitBaseball]

I missed reading that part, sorry. Yes, the cable that comes with the PX-760a is an 80 wire cable.

If setting the jumper to master--and installing the cable properly doesn't help--the next thing I would look at is your filters.

Also Plextor has toll-free technical support. You may want to try calling them to see what they say.
He already left for Best Buy. :(

[Webslinger]

He already left for Best Buy. :(

Yes, I know. 80 wire cables tend to be cheap, and I'm sure they can be easily returned to Best buy.

[DetroitBaseball]

Yes, I know. 80 wire cables tend to be cheap, and I'm sure they can be easily returned to Best buy.
Then it wouldn't be a bad idea to have a spare sitting around anyways. ;)

[tmckin1211]

Well I purchased a 80 wire strap and spoke to the Geek Squad there. He actually worked for Slyfoft 2 or 3 years ago, so he was very familar with the Slysoft products. After hooking up the burner with new strap/cable the problem did not go away. I took the computer back up to him and he said that there was something wrong with 760A, he installed another make IDE burner and it worked fine. At this point Plextor and I have parted company, they maybe were on top of the game prior to the Duo Core 2 and the Intel chipset. Unfornately, Plextor and I were not made for each other. I quess what really got me was the 80 wire cable cost me $29.00 and then nothing. Unless anyone any other suggestions the 760A is heading for file 13 tomorrow.
:mad:

P.S. I am the proud owner of (3) Plextor 810SA and (1) Plextor 760A all with problems.

[DetroitBaseball]

Well I purchased a 80 wire strap and spoke to the Geek Squad there. He actually worked for Slyfoft 2 or 3 years ago, so he was very familar with the Slysoft products. After hooking up the burner with new strap/cable the problem did not go away. I took the computer back up to him and he said that there was something wrong with 760A, he installed another make IDE burner and it worked fine. At this point Plextor and I have parted company, they maybe were on top of the game prior to the Duo Core 2 and the Intel chipset. Unfornately, Plextor and I were not made for each other. I quess what really got me was the 80 wire cable cost me $29.00 and then nothing. Unless anyone any other suggestions the 760A is heading for file 13 tomorrow.
:mad:

P.S. I am the proud owner of (3) Plextor 810SA and (1) Plextor 760A all with problems.
You can take the 80 wire back. Is the Plextor 760A still under 30 day return policy?

[tmckin1211]

Actually I purchased the Samsung he tried so I will keep the cable. Customer Service is not open until Monday, even then it took me nearly an hour to get to place the order. If you remember I originally order the 716A, which they had to replace it with the 760A.

[Webslinger]

I quess what really got me was the 80 wire cable cost me $29.00 and then nothing.

$29 /boggle

visit http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812200039 $3.99

Even rounded ones shouldn't cost more than $10.

[Webslinger]

they maybe were on top of the game prior to the Duo Core 2 and the Intel chipset.

I own two PX-760a burners. And they work perfectly fine with an Intel Quad core system on an intel P35 express based chipset. They also work fine with dual cores.

Personally, I would go through the steps I outlined previously, but as you've already made your decision, there's not much point.

[tmckin1211]

I feel much better now that I got ripped off on the cable. You are correct it is a round one. :(

Tomorrow I am taking the computer back in to the tech that built it. He called and said that he is burning DVD-R with one of PX-810SA, but is using Retek Discs. There maybe hope yet. According to him it hates Verbatim DVD-R but has no problem with their DVD+R.

I told him about the 760A, it seems he wants to perform some of the same tests you mentioned. He reminded me that my wife Duo Core 2 (exact same MOBO and chip) is using both the 716A and 760A IDE in her computer. He said he was not completely sold on SATA yet, but after he got 810SA up and running he thinking it over again.

[Webslinger]

I feel much better now that I got ripped off on the cable. You are correct it is a round one. :(

Just return it. Get your money back. Want some good advice? Don't buy cables from Best Buy. The markup is nuts (huge profit for them).

[tmckin1211]

I took the Plextor 760A into my tech today after an hour of messing around with it, he asked if I would leave with him to run some additional tests. No problem on my part it doesn't work anyways.

I have searching both the Slysoft and CDFreaks forum. Someone mention updating the Plextor 810SA with a model from Pioneer. I am not worried about the warranty, my tech said that he would do it but it not his. Does anyone remember the Pioneer model? I am going to try it.

[DetroitBaseball]

I took the Plextor 760A into my tech today after an hour of messing around with it, he asked if I would leave with him to run some additional tests. No problem on my part it doesn't work anyways.

I have searching both the Slysoft and CDFreaks forum. Someone mention updating the Plextor 810SA with a model from Pioneer. I am not worried about the warranty, my tech said that he would do it but it not his. Does anyone remember the Pioneer model? I am going to try it.
I've had problems with my Pioneer drive, I would avoid Pioneer.

[Webslinger]

I've had problems with my Pioneer drive, I would avoid Pioneer.

You had problems with a single faulty drive, which you replaced and now works fine. And since crossflashing, it seems that you have additional features that you didn't even pay for. So you're going to avoid Pioneer based on a single faulty burner?

[DetroitBaseball]

You had problems with a single faulty drive, which you replaced and now works fine. And since crossflashing, it seems that you have additional features that you didn't even pay for. So you're going to avoid Pioneer based on a single faulty burner?
I am disgusted by the fact that a new drive does not come with bitsetting capabilities out of the box. I know I am overacting a little but that makes me mad. And the CD problem even though it was fixed.

[Webslinger]

I am disgusted by the fact that a new drive does not come with bitsetting capabilities out of the box. I know I am overacting a little but that makes me mad.

I can certainly understand that. I think most people who buy them over at cdfreaks know about this limitation and buy the 112d with the specific intention of crossflashing (unfortunately that does void the warranty).

[tmckin1211]

You had problems with a single faulty drive, which you replaced and now works fine. And since crossflashing, it seems that you have additional features that you didn't even pay for. So you're going to avoid Pioneer based on a single faulty burner?
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It works for me I already tried Verbatim DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD+R DL and CD-R and it is super fast. :)

The Samsung will be here tomorrow, let's see what that does. I quess I will box up my Plextors, except the 760A if my tech gets it working.

Thanks for warning on crossing the firmware.

[DetroitBaseball]

I can certainly understand that. I think most people who buy them over at cdfreaks know about this limitation and buy the 112d with the specific intention of crossflashing (unfortunately that does void the warranty).
Before I buy a drive I guess I am gonna have to research it to see if it supports bitsetting. I thought all new drives did. But this crossflashing is nice.

[Webslinger]

Thanks for warning on crossing the firmware.

Oh, I was replying to Detriotbaseball, actually.

[DetroitBaseball]

Thanks for warning on crossing the firmware.
You should never do that, it is a last resort if you are not very computer knowledgeable.

[Webslinger]

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I quess your right, I installed the Philips SPD2513BD earlier tonight

I'm pretty sure that's really a Lite-on LH-20A1S rebadge by the way (if it's the SATA version).

[tmckin1211]

I'm pretty sure that's really a Lite-on LH-20A1S rebadge by the way (if it's the SATA version).

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Is that a good thing or bad? I hate to ask but is the Samsung really a Samsung? Doesn't anyone make their own equipment anymore? I heard Sony is really a LG.

[DetroitBaseball]

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Is that a good thing or bad? I hate to ask but is the Samsung really a Samsung? Doesn't anyone make their own equipment anymore? I heard Sony is really a LG.
I thought LG was made by Panasonic.

[tmckin1211]

I thought LG was made by Panasonic.

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The only reason I thought that was when they were installing the software it said LG, I could be wrong. That seems to my problem lately. So Sony is a Sony?

[DetroitBaseball]

So Sony is a Sony?
As far as I know. Webslinger is the expert.

[Webslinger]

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Is that a good thing or bad?

Depends on whether you like Lite-on, I suppose.

I hate to ask but is the Samsung really a Samsung?

They tend to be, yes.

Doesn't anyone make their own equipment anymore?

Lots of rebadges exist.

I heard Sony is really a LG.

Sonys are mostly rebadges of other drives (and are not specific to any one brand).
Sony DRU-830UA = Samsung SH-S182 (based on what I've read and have been told)
Sony DRU-820A = Benq 1670
Sony DRU-810A = Benq 1640


The PX-760a is really a Plextor burner, by the way.

[Webslinger]

I thought LG was made by Panasonic.

No. LG is a Korean brand (burners tend to be made in China and also, sometimes, in Korea). But the chipsets can be Panasonic. Usually Renesas or Panasonic (Panasonic chipsets mostly as of late) . . .

Panasonic oem drives are Matshitas (and generally should be avoided).

[tmckin1211]

This has nothing to do with Burners, but I bought a new Offshore boat in 2003 and I wanted a Yamaha 225 hp 4 stroke on it. The dealer did not sell Yamaha to get the package price I bought a Mercury 225 hp 4 stroke. When I took the boat to my mechanic I told him I really wanted a Yamaha. He started laughing, he said the Mercury 255 4 Stroke was made by Yamaha and you only paid for the name. Story of my life.

[DetroitBaseball]

This has nothing to do with Burners, but I bought a new Offshore boat in 2003 and I wanted a Yamaha 225 hp 4 stroke on it. The dealer did not sell Yamaha to get the package price I bought a Mercury 225 hp 4 stroke. When I took the boat to my mechanic I told him I really wanted a Yamaha. He started laughing, he said the Mercury 255 4 Stroke was made by Yamaha and you only paid for the name. Story of my life.
My dad had a 40 HP two stroke Yamaha on a 14 footer, worked great. That motor was nice. He bought an 18 foot Lund with a 115 HP 4 stroke Yamaha though a few years ago. Man why do you need 225 HP?

[tmckin1211]

My dad had a 40 HP two stroke Yamaha on a 14 footer, worked great. That motor was nice. He bought an 18 foot Lund with a 115 HP 4 stroke Yamaha though a few years ago. Man why do you need 225 HP?

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I am in the Coast Guard - Search and Rescue - we go out in every type of weather and we need to move fast. When Katina hit I was ordered out before the hurricane pasted, that was a ride I will never forget. Some boaters tried to wait it out in the middle of the lake, it did work out for them. We rescued as many we could but you only save the ones you find.

[DetroitBaseball]

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I am in the Coast Guard - Search and Rescue - we go out in every type of weather and we need to move fast. When Katina hit I was ordered out before the hurricane pasted, that was a ride I will never forget. Some boaters tried to wait it out in the middle of the lake, it did work out for them. We rescued as many we could but you only save the ones you find.
Oh. I didn't know that. That's definitely a good reason. :clap:

[tmckin1211]

Here is the sad part, the Coast Guard rescued 35,000 people, we were awarded what I call the Katina Ribbon by the President. Now the people from New Orleans is sueing the Coast Guard for the ones we did not save. Figure that one out.

You and Webslinger are correct, you are much farther advanced then me on computers, I understand them better than most but your knowledge is unbelievable.

Thank you both for all your help and I am sure I will have more questions as time goes on. All I do is burn movies and wait for the phone to ring. That is not completely true I am also the Vice President of a large Rubber and Plastic Manufacturing company, that pays my bills.

[DetroitBaseball]

Thank you both for all your help and I am sure I will have more questions as time goes on.
We'll be here to answer them. ;)