AnyDVD and Nero Recode 2

[johnac014us]

I am currently using AnyDVD and CloneDVD as a trial. I own Nero Recode2. I have been able to backup DVD's using the AnyDVD and CloneDVD combination. I have also been able rip the DVD using AnyDVD and then burn using Recode.

My problem came when I tried to backup directly to DVD using AnyDVD and Recode. I got an "unable to read file" error part way through the process.

My questions are...

1) Are there any known issues with AnyDVD and Recode?
2) Does ripping degrade the video in any way or is it a file copy with the unwanted bits removed?
3) Does anyone have opinions on quality differences between CloneDVD and Recode (or other software)?

[Webslinger]

I am currently using AnyDVD and CloneDVD as a trial. I own Nero Recode2. I have been able to backup DVD's using the AnyDVD and CloneDVD combination. I have also been able rip the DVD using AnyDVD and then burn using Recode.

Here's how to rip using Anydvd:

http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=328

My problem came when I tried to backup directly to DVD using AnyDVD and Recode. I got an "unable to read file" error part way through the process.

If you're using 6.x versions of Nero and have more than one optical drive in your system, it's best to try to import directly from your burner. I had the same problem, contacted Nero, and was told it was a known issue. Nero 7.x versions do not have this problem (you can import from a dvd-rom drive for example).

My questions are...

1) Are there any known issues with AnyDVD and Recode?

Other than what I stated above, there's nothing that I'm aware of. Please ensure you're using the latest version of Recode for your version of Nero (that is, make sure you update Nero): http://www.nero.com/Downloads.html

2) Does ripping degrade the video in any way or is it a file copy with the unwanted bits removed?

No, it doesn't degrade the video.


3) Does anyone have opinions on quality differences between CloneDVD and Recode (or other software)?

Yes. Clonedvd2 is more compatible with Anydvd, so this is your best solution for backing up movies with Anydvd. Clonedvd2 is faster at transcoding than Nero. Clonedvd2 allows you to retain menus over split discs, unlike Recode and Shrink. Recode allows you to split discs anywhere (not just at chapter markers). Recode's transcoder (picture) quality is superior to Clonedvd2 provided "advanced analysis" is selected, at the cost of a longer time spent transcoding to produce that improved picture quality. You can of course rip using Clonedvd2 and import that rip into Recode if you wish. If you like Anydvd, it's best to have Clonedvd2 in your arsenal to ensure compatibility in the event an issue should arise.

[SlyFox 1]

I am currently using AnyDVD and CloneDVD as a trial. I own Nero Recode2. I have been able to backup DVD's using the AnyDVD and CloneDVD combination. I have also been able rip the DVD using AnyDVD and then burn using Recode.

My problem came when I tried to backup directly to DVD using AnyDVD and Recode. I got an "unable to read file" error part way through the process.

My questions are...

1) Are there any known issues with AnyDVD and Recode?
2) Does ripping degrade the video in any way or is it a file copy with the unwanted bits removed?
3) Does anyone have opinions on quality differences between CloneDVD and Recode (or other software)?
If it were me I would use AnyDVD with CloneDVD2, and no I have not had any problems with Recode and AnyDVD, that said I think the CloneDVD2 is a tad better than recode.

[johnac014us]

Thanks, I appreciate you input.

[riccast]

On the quality question I have personally ran a few test of myself between CloneDVD 2 which I purchased a 1 week ago and Recode 2 and I wasn't able to tell the difference up to 80% compression, I used The Matrix Reloaded movie only (81% compression) for that test. I then used Flyboys movie only (72% compression) and was able to tell the difference (not much) but if you are a perfectionist like me, when it comes to quality it was enough (my wife laughed at me for doing such a test) I also didn't use Recode 2's High Quality Mode (which I always use on compressions of 70% or more) that way the test would be apples to apples. So if I were you I would purchase CloneDVD 2 and use it as insurance in case you run into a problem DVD Recode 2 can't handle like I do.

HOPE THIS HELPS

[Clams]

I also didn't use Recode 2's High Quality Mode (which I always use on compressions of 70% or more) that way the test would be apples to apples.

"Apples to Apples" would be to compare highest quality mode each program has to offer. At any percentage. Ya, Recode2's quick mode is pretty comparable to CloneDVD. However, Recode2 and DVDShrink when set to do it the long way - both blow CloneDVD out of the water for heavy reduxing.

-W

[DetroitBaseball]

"Apples to Apples" would be to compare highest quality mode each program has to offer. At any percentage. Ya, Recode2's quick mode is pretty comparable to CloneDVD. However, Recode2 and DVDShrink when set to do it the long way - both blow CloneDVD out of the water for heavy reduxing.

-W
I doubt it "blows CloneDVD out of the water." The difference between quick mode and deep analysis is barely visible to the human eye, and a waste of time in my opinion.

[Clams]

I doubt it "blows CloneDVD out of the water." The difference between quick mode and deep analysis is barely visible to the human eye, and a waste of time in my opinion.

The difference is *notable*, my wife can see it as well.

CloneDVD2, which incidentally is not made by Slysoft at all, but Elaborate Bytes (Elby) in Switzerland, would not even be a "mover and shaker" on this forum were it not for some (apparant?) marketing agreement between Slysoft and Elby. This must be a one way agreement, because I note the Elby site does not cross-market AnyDVD for Slysoft.

Slysoft's AnyDVD is a truely remarkable (and amazing) product!
In my humble opinion, Elby outta be licking Slysofts sneakers every single day for letting thier quite average products jump on the gravy train with AnyDVD in the 1st place. AnyDVD is the "kingmaker" here, plain and simple.

-W

[Webslinger]

I doubt it "blows CloneDVD out of the water." The difference between quick mode and deep analysis is barely visible to the human eye, and a waste of time in my opinion.

Clonedvd2 is a great program. It's easy to use and very fast at transcoding. That said the transcoder quality difference is quite apparent.

http://www.digital-digest.com/~uncasms/spiderman/Spiderman.html

The next test didn't even bother Clonedvd2.

"CloneDVD and DVD2ONEv2 were not used any more for this test as their results were too poor the last time:
http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=63668
http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=57235 "

In particular, visit http://forum.digital-digest.com/showpost.php?p=316209&postcount=23
What's noted first is how fast Clonedvd2 is. And what's noted after is the picture quality in comparison to Shrink.

[DetroitBaseball]

Clonedvd2 is a great program. It's easy to use and very fast at trancoding. That said the transcoder difference is quite apparent.

http://www.digital-digest.com/~uncasms/spiderman/Spiderman.html

The next test didn't even bother Clonedvd2.

"CloneDVD and DVD2ONEv2 were not used any more for this test as their results were too poor the last time:
http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=63668
http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=57235 "

In particular, visit http://forum.digital-digest.com/showpost.php?p=316209&postcount=23
What's noted first is how fast Clonedvd2 is.
You're kidding right? I own CloneDVD2, I know what it is, lol.

[Clams]

You're kidding right? I own CloneDVD2, I know what it is, lol.

Try this... take any movie of the Lord of the Rings extended trilogy and stick the main movie portion (as title 1 and title2) on a single DVD5. Use CloneDVD and Shrink.... (you may have to do 2 passes to get it that small)
Then look for the difference. Both of them will show serious compression artifacts.... but the result differece at that level of abuse is very wide.

-W

[Webslinger]

Try this... take any movie of the Lord of the Rings extended trilogy and stick the main movie portion (as title 1 and title2) on a single DVD5.


This is yet another reason why I very rarely compress anything. It seems to me that if people truly were concerned about picture quality they would either split across two single layer discs or use Verbatim +R DL instead of messing around with transcoders and encoders. But that's just my opinion . . .

[DetroitBaseball]

That movie is an exception because of how big it is.

[Clams]

That movie is an exception because of how big it is.


OF COURSE it is.... that's why I picked it. The more *stress* you put a transcoder under, the more you can see the differences.

-W

[DetroitBaseball]

OF COURSE it is.... that's why I picked it. The more *stress* you put a transcoder under, the more you can see the differences.

-W
CloneDVD2 compresses just fine, the copy looks nearly the same as the original. The point I am making is that, in my opinion, the small difference in picture quality is not worth using DVD Shrink.

[Webslinger]

I'm moving this into the third pary app forum.

[DetroitBaseball]

I'm moving this into the third pary app forum.
Fine by me, we need organization on this forum.

[Clams]

CloneDVD2 compresses just fine, the copy looks nearly the same as the original. The point I am making is that, in my opinion, the small difference in picture quality is not worth using DVD Shrink.

Explain that to me SLOWLY - considering Shrink is free and you gotta PAY for the lesser CloneDVD2?

-W

[DetroitBaseball]

Explain that to me SLOWLY - considering Shrink is free and you gotta PAY for the lesser CloneDVD2?

-W
CloneDVD2 is still updated, Shrink is not. Period.

[Webslinger]

you gotta PAY for the lesser CloneDVD2?


I only find it "lesser" in terms of transcoder picture quality. Clonedvd2 is still an excellent program.

[DetroitBaseball]

I only find it "lesser" in terms of transcoder picture quality. Clonedvd2 is still an excellent program.
My thoughts exactly. And not "lesser" by much either.

[Webslinger]

My thoughts exactly. And not "lesser" by much either.

Well, we differ in terms of extent, but . . .

I will not be discussing this further in this thread.

[Clams]

Well, we differ in terms of extent, but . . .

I will not be discussing this further in this thread.

I'm about done talking to him as well. I don't know if he thinks the forum hands out little gold stars for "proper support of CloneDVD2 over all other products" - but it seems that way to me. Make a point and he just does a two-step and changes the point.

-W

[DetroitBaseball]

No, CloneDVD2 and DVD Shrink are both great programs, but I don't use DVD Shrink because it is not updated anymore and tends to run into problems with newer DVDs.

[SlyFox 1]

I'm about done talking to him as well. I don't know if he thinks the forum hands out little gold stars for "proper support of CloneDVD2 over all other products" - but it seems that way to me. Make a point and he just does a two-step and changes the point.

-W Thats the best point you made in this whole thread as far as I am concerned.:clap:

[Merlin_AZ]

Quick question regarding AnyDVD/Nero Recode.
If the source disk is in the dvd drive, and the movie is "added" into Recode, what happens when we select the DVD drive as the target.
Will it know to eject the disk like Shrink does so I can put the blank it?

I've read all the 3rd party threads and am enjoying the discussion.
Is there any consensus to what the best transcoder/burner to use with AnyDVD in one pass? I realize using 2-pass is better but I hate letting it run forever.
I was using DVDFab Decrypter to rip before finding AnyDVD to save that step.
I appreciate the help.

[Webslinger]

Quick question regarding AnyDVD/Nero Recode.
If the source disk is in the dvd drive, and the movie is "added" into Recode, what happens when we select the DVD drive as the target.
Will it know to eject the disk like Shrink does so I can put the blank it?


Yes, it will.

[linx05]

You're kidding right? I own CloneDVD2, I know what it is, lol.
You may know what it is but you don't know how 'good' the transcoder in it is.

"Apples to Apples" would be to compare highest quality mode each program has to offer. At any percentage. Ya, Recode2's quick mode is pretty comparable to CloneDVD. However, Recode2 and DVDShrink when set to do it the long way - both blow CloneDVD out of the water for heavy reduxing.

-W
Are you sure you're using the right terminology? Care to explain to me what reduxing means? :P I assume you mean compression :p.

I doubt it "blows CloneDVD out of the water." The difference between quick mode and deep analysis is barely visible to the human eye, and a waste of time in my opinion.
Have you had your eyes checked (no offence)? How big is your TV? I look back at the movies I made with DVD Shrink (notably better than other transcoders) and on my small TV screen in my bedroom (below 40cm) I can see many problems with it. I now only use DVD Rebuilder. Maybe I am too picky, who knows. But I do know one thing, DVD Shrink leaves noticeable artifacts. And so must CloneDVD.

[oldjoe]

But I do know one thing, DVD Shrink leaves noticeable artifacts. And so must CloneDVD.

I have backed up over 800 movies using Shrink and I have yet to see any "artifacts" of any kind on any disc. That includes some burns that are over 3 yrs. old and on some questionable media.

[linx05]

How big is your TV? I bet you I'd be able to look at those DVDs and find artifacts. That's just me being picky. I'm not dissing DVD Shrink. I think it is the best of its kind.

[Clams]

I use a 102" DLP - I see it ALL.
Sure, every transcoder leaves artifacts. But Shrink and Recode are "near perfect" down to the 80/85% range. Shrink is surely the "best bang for the buck" out there - in part becasue it's so good - and in part because it's free.

-W

[fivestones]

What is the difference between Nero Recode2,Nero 6 and Nero 7? Go ahead and lol at me but ill learn as i ask Questions. LOL at my self.Fivestones:doh:

[Webslinger]

What is the difference between Nero Recode2,Nero 6 and Nero 7? Go ahead and lol at me but ill learn as i ask Questions. LOL at my self.

Nero Recode is a program that is included in the various Nero Ultra software package suites. Nero Ultra contains a lot of programs.

[fivestones]

Hi Webslinger, My that was a fast post i jsut got done with it and you posted so fast Thanks for letting me know.I got me the AnyDVD,CloneDVD & cloneCD as you know and it is easy for me to work with. I have seen a lot about this Nero7 also and i see you fellows have other things to work with so if you was me would you get this Nero 7?Thanks Fivestones:bowdown:

I am reading every post here and copying all the things in a note pad that i think will help me later.

[Webslinger]

i see you fellows have other things to work with so if you was me would you get this Nero 7?

I'm not sure. If you're happy, then I'm happy too. :)

[oldjoe]

. I have seen a lot about this Nero7 also and i see you fellows have other things to work with so if you was me would you get this Nero 7?Thanks Fivestones:bowdown:

Nero 7 is a bloated software but there are some good things within. Do a custom install to install just what you want. Upon installing Nero 7, it had some serious issues with Acronis. I finally discovered by installing Nero 7 BEFORE Acronis, they got along with no issues.

[fivestones]

Nero 7 is a bloated software but there are some good things within.

Hi oldjoe i see now that this is a third party programs posting place. I see that Nero 7 has to much stuff that i don't wont in it and it is $80.00 and the Nero 6 is $17.00. Will the Neron 6 do Cds And DVDs for me that is all i won't it for?Fivestones:doh:

[oldjoe]

fivestones ...Yes, Nero 6 will handle your burning needs.

[fivestones]

Thank you oldjoe i seen it for $17.00 i am on my way to get it.Fivestones:agree:

[Clams]

Make sure it's the "Ultra Edition". That way if it doesn't include the latest Nero recode - you can still download it.

-W

[MMM]

Wow, I just started using the latest version of Recode2, mainly because of some issues AnyDVD is experiencing with Sony copy-protections, and the picture quality at 73% compression(movie only) specifically for Casino Royale is amazing. I've been using Shrink w/ "deep analysis" for forever and now that I've seen what the latest Recode can do(with its version of "deep analysis"), all I can say is WHAT A DIFFERENCE:clap: . In dark scenes and scenes with a lot of dark red in the background, you can see the improvements. I don't think I'll be using Shrink anymore. I got Nero 7 as a present and never thought to use it's Recode2 application before, what a find.:clap: :clap:

Could anyone direct me to any readings on the maker of Shrink and his part in making Recode2? Or if you know anything could you post some things here? Are there any thread comparing the two applications? Just wondering:D .