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MMM
6th February 2007, 23:24
Will there be a CloneDVD HD soon thereafter too? So we can maybe burn to DL DVD-Rs?:agree: :disagree: Or is that a bad idea?:disagree: :agree:
THANKS
DetroitBaseball
6th February 2007, 23:25
I think they are unsure about this right now. Because burners if they are out are very hard to get.
James
7th February 2007, 00:03
Will there be a CloneDVD HD soon thereafter too? So we can maybe burn to DL DVD-Rs?:agree: :disagree: Or is that a bad idea?:disagree: :agree:
THANKS
Not a bad idea at all, but it is a little early to think about such a complex product.
SamuriHL
7th February 2007, 18:59
Not a bad idea at all, but it is a little early to think about such a complex product.
I disagree. A product of the nature that we're talking about(see my post on CDF for more info) should be planned out and built properly from the ground up. But to do that takes time. If you started planning such a product now, I doubt you could get it on the market before a year or a year and a half. By then HD-DVD and/or BluRay will likely be quite established. Being able to convert from one format to another has HUGE benefits to people like me. I might consider a PC drive that supports both formats and use my media pc with that. That's fine. However, my xbox 360 only supports hd-dvd and it's far more portable than my media pc. Those "BluRay only" titles aren't so attractive if I can't take them with me and play them on my 360. However, if I had an HD DVD burner and some cheap(er) media, the ability to transcode BluRay movies suddenly becomes a very coveted feature. ;) ESPECIALLY with the things you've added to AnyDVD HD like the disc structure editing. So, I see CloneDVD HD as being a USEFUL product but also a DIFFICULT one to make.
If I were you, I'd at least start putting together a list of requirements and coming up with a project plan at this stage. That way you can assign effort to each feature and do a cost analysis to see if a CloneDVD HD product even makes sense from a business standpoint. You can then prioritize the the most needed features and get a "base" product out the door that can starting making you more money so that you can work on future revisions with the features that didn't make the initial release. All of this takes time...the sooner the better. :)
DetroitBaseball
7th February 2007, 19:05
I disagree. A product of the nature that we're talking about(see my post on CDF for more info) should be planned out and built properly from the ground up. But to do that takes time. If you started planning such a product now, I doubt you could get it on the market before a year or a year and a half. By then HD-DVD and/or BluRay will likely be quite established. Being able to convert from one format to another has HUGE benefits to people like me. I might consider a PC drive that supports both formats and use my media pc with that. That's fine. However, my xbox 360 only supports hd-dvd and it's far more portable than my media pc. Those "BluRay only" titles aren't so attractive if I can't take them with me and play them on my 360. However, if I had an HD DVD burner and some cheap(er) media, the ability to transcode BluRay movies suddenly becomes a very coveted feature. ;) ESPECIALLY with the things you've added to AnyDVD HD like the disc structure editing. So, I see CloneDVD HD as being a USEFUL product but also a DIFFICULT one to make.
If I were you, I'd at least start putting together a list of requirements and coming up with a project plan at this stage. That way you can assign effort to each feature and do a cost analysis to see if a CloneDVD HD product even makes sense from a business standpoint. You can then prioritize the the most needed features and get a "base" product out the door that can starting making you more money so that you can work on future revisions with the features that didn't make the initial release. All of this takes time...the sooner the better. :)
Yeah, we could have a thread for suggestions on the forum too to help out with the design and plans.
Charlie
7th February 2007, 19:20
This is a good ideal I think too.
James
7th February 2007, 19:27
I disagree. A product of the nature that we're talking about(see my post on CDF for more info) should be planned out and built properly from the ground up. But to do that takes time. If you started planning such a product now, I doubt you could get it on the market before a year or a year and a half. By then HD-DVD and/or BluRay will likely be quite established. Being able to convert from one format to another has HUGE benefits to people like me. I might consider a PC drive that supports both formats and use my media pc with that. That's fine. However, my xbox 360 only supports hd-dvd and it's far more portable than my media pc. Those "BluRay only" titles aren't so attractive if I can't take them with me and play them on my 360. However, if I had an HD DVD burner and some cheap(er) media, the ability to transcode BluRay movies suddenly becomes a very coveted feature. ;) ESPECIALLY with the things you've added to AnyDVD HD like the disc structure editing. So, I see CloneDVD HD as being a USEFUL product but also a DIFFICULT one to make.
If I were you, I'd at least start putting together a list of requirements and coming up with a project plan at this stage. That way you can assign effort to each feature and do a cost analysis to see if a CloneDVD HD product even makes sense from a business standpoint. You can then prioritize the the most needed features and get a "base" product out the door that can starting making you more money so that you can work on future revisions with the features that didn't make the initial release. All of this takes time...the sooner the better. :)
This is all true, and you give good arguments. (Sure, you're a pro. :D )
But if one of the formats dies before it really took off, any effort might be a waste of time and money. I wouldn't start thinking about such a converter for at least 3-6 months, as I don't want to bind human resources so early in "the game".
IMHO it would be more wise to think about little intermediate steps not binding so much HR (time and moneywise). As a matter of fact, most of the knowledge required to even estimate such a project is not disclosed unless you sign a license agreement with BDA (Blu-ray) or DVD-Forum (HD DVD).
I doubt SlySoft will be allowed to join the HD DVD promoter's group. :p
For example, let's start with "a simple driver to allow BR media to be used to backup HD DVD movies for playback on HTPC".
Then maybe a "HD DVD demuxer (to remove soundtracks) and splitter" to burn HD DVD movies on DVD+/-R dual layer media.
During these steps we could learn a lot about the new codecs, data structures, etc. while keeping the cash flow and getting a feeling for the market's response. Now - after understanding how HD DVD works - we need to understand Blu-ray. So AnyDVD HD supporting Blu-ray would be the next logical step, followed by ... you know what I mean.
SamuriHL
7th February 2007, 19:28
Yeah, we could have a thread for suggestions on the forum too to help out with the design and plans.
Not a bad idea but too many cooks spoil the dinner so to speak. Slysoft has to determine what features are feasible and when you've got tons of people requesting or suggesting features it makes it difficult to prioritize them all. I'm quite sure Slysoft has an internal development process that handles these kinds of tasks. The reason companies do phased releases is because of time and cost constraints. It'd be great if they could cram all the features we wanted into the first release but that's simply not possible. Think about what it would take, for instance, JUST to provide the ability to transcode from BluRay to HD-DVD and vice versa...without dealing with compression issues. The program would need to following abilities:
-Read both BluRay and HD-DVD disc structures
-Edit both BluRay and HD-DVD disc structures in order to add/remove content
-Construct entire BluRay and HD-DVD disc structures
-Convert video, audio, and menu structures from one format to the other
-Provide simple GUI for users to perform above tasks
Each one of those tasks breaks down into possibly hundreds of steps. Reading the disc structures, for example, is probably pretty easy for them to do. Not a big deal. Editing the disc structures...they seem to have a handle on that, as well, given what AnyDVD HD can do. However, authoring a new BluRay or HD-DVD disc structure that is compliant with the standards...that's probably not something they've done yet. I don't suspect that's an easy task. Then you have the routines to process the video, audio, subtitles, menus, etc. THAT will be very difficult and will probably require them to license the different codecs. You're talking about 3 different codecs for each disc type. I don't have any idea about the structures of the discs, but, let's assume that the codecs are implemented slightly differently on each format. You will then have to be able to trancode the video, audio, subtitles, menus, etc from one format to the other. This assumes no compression...just straight conversion. But you're not just dealing with MPEG-2 as we did on DVD's...you've got VC1 and H.264 to deal with, as well, and CloneDVD HD will have to be able to deal with those. Development time on that will be significant. Testing will also be significant. I don't know what licensing of those codecs would cost, either. But, these are the types of things Slysoft has to deal with when someone says "hey, it'd be kuel if you could just throw together this app." It doesn't work like that...this is why I said Slysoft should start thinking about it now rather than wait.
DetroitBaseball
7th February 2007, 19:30
Not a bad idea but too many cooks spoil the dinner so to speak. Slysoft has to determine what features are feasible and when you've got tons of people requesting or suggesting features it makes it difficult to prioritize them all. I'm quite sure Slysoft has an internal development process that handles these kinds of tasks. The reason companies do phased releases is because of time and cost constraints. It'd be great if they could cram all the features we wanted into the first release but that's simply not possible. Think about what it would take, for instance, JUST to provide the ability to transcode from BluRay to HD-DVD and vice versa...without dealing with compression issues. The program would need to following abilities:
-Read both BluRay and HD-DVD disc structures
-Edit both BluRay and HD-DVD disc structures in order to add/remove content
-Construct entire BluRay and HD-DVD disc structures
-Convert video, audio, and menu structures from one format to the other
-Provide simple GUI for users to perform above tasks
Each one of those tasks breaks down into possibly hundreds of steps. Reading the disc structures, for example, is probably pretty easy for them to do. Not a big deal. Editing the disc structures...they seem to have a handle on that, as well, given what AnyDVD HD can do. However, authoring a new BluRay or HD-DVD disc structure that is compliant with the standards...that's probably not something they've done yet. I don't suspect that's an easy task. Then you have the routines to process the video, audio, subtitles, menus, etc. THAT will be very difficult and will probably require them to license the different codecs. You're talking about 3 different codecs for each disc type. I don't have any idea about the structures of the discs, but, let's assume that the codecs are implemented slightly differently on each format. You will then have to be able to trancode the video, audio, subtitles, menus, etc from one format to the other. This assumes no compression...just straight conversion. But you're not just dealing with MPEG-2 as we did on DVD's...you've got VC1 and H.264 to deal with, as well, and CloneDVD HD will have to be able to deal with those. Development time on that will be significant. Testing will also be significant. I don't know what licensing of those codecs would cost, either. But, these are the types of things Slysoft has to deal with when someone says "hey, it'd be kuel if you could just throw together this app." It doesn't work like that...this is why I said Slysoft should start thinking about it now rather than wait.
Of course. We could help plan a roadmap.
SamuriHL
7th February 2007, 19:33
This is all true, and you give good arguments. (Sure, you're a pro. :D )
But if one of the formats dies before it really took off, any effort might be a waste of time and money. I wouldn't start thinking about such a converter for at least 3-6 months, as I don't want to bind human resources so early in "the game".
IMHO it would be more wise to think about little intermediate steps not binding so much HR (time and moneywise). As a matter of fact, most of the knowledge required to even estimate such a project is not disclosed unless you sign a license agreement with BDA (Blu-ray) or DVD-Forum (HD DVD).
I doubt SlySoft will be allowed to join the HD DVD promoter's group. :p
For example, let's start with "a simple driver to allow BR media to be used to backup HD DVD movies for playback on HTPC".
Then maybe a "HD DVD demuxer (to remove soundtracks) and splitter" to burn HD DVD movies on DVD+/-R dual layer media.
During these steps we could learn a lot about the new codecs, data structures, etc. while keeping the cash flow and getting a feeling for the market's response. Now - after understanding how HD DVD works - we need to understand Blu-ray. So AnyDVD HD supporting Blu-ray would be the next logical step, followed by ... you know what I mean.
What do you read minds or something?! :D Yes, I realize what's involved and I'm not saying it should be a product you just slap together right now. Simply that you start thinking about the components and features that will go into it...eventually. All the things you just laid out are excellent goals that will definitely move you along towards a product that will be highly useful. I agree completely that baby steps are needed. That's why I was suggesting breaking the feature set down into a project plan to do some analysis on it. But it sounds like you're at least thinking about the right steps so I'm good with that knowledge. ;) Keep up the great work.
James
7th February 2007, 19:39
What do you read minds or something?! :D Yes, I realize what's involved and I'm not saying it should be a product you just slap together right now. Simply that you start thinking about the components and features that will go into it...eventually. All the things you just laid out are excellent goals that will definitely move you along towards a product that will be highly useful. I agree completely that baby steps are needed. That's why I was suggesting breaking the feature set down into a project plan to do some analysis on it. But it sounds like you're at least thinking about the right steps so I'm good with that knowledge. ;) Keep up the great work.
That's my job. If I don't do it, it will be Tom and Giancarlo spanking me with the foam bat. And no, I don't like that. :D
SamuriHL
7th February 2007, 19:41
That's my job. If I don't do it, it will be Tom and Giancarlo spanking me with the foam bat. And no, I don't like that. :D
ROFLMAO! :) I knew you guys had too much fun there! LOL!!
TM2-Megatron
7th February 2007, 19:42
I'd hope that if this kind of product were released eventually, it would perform more or less all the same functions that CloneDVD does, but on both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD. Basically, just giving us the ability to backup our movies either entirely or in part (with the option to preserve the menu structure). I suppose it somewhat defeats the purpose of idealized HD, but the ability to compress would be useful as well. Since HD-DVDs can also apparently be written onto normal DVDs, a single-layer HD-DVD (although I've heard that most releases have been dual-layer) could be compressed onto a DVD+R DL as well.
I'm not sure how much of a priority the ability to convert the entire Blu-Ray and HD-DVD structures from one to the other should be, though. Perhaps Slysoft should just focus on matching the current CloneDVDs features first, and add this later on if it's truly demanded.
Rusty257
23rd August 2007, 14:54
Any updates? James you mentioned 3-6 months, well its 6 months? Just curious.
SlyFox 1
24th August 2007, 11:57
We will keep everyone up to date as soon as we know something. Slysoft has always done a great job predicting what will be needed, I have no reason to think they will stop now.:D:agree:
Charlie
24th August 2007, 12:21
With the price of the HD disc or BD Disc it would be wiser to just buy 2 of the same title at the moment. Plus there is no HD-DVD Burners out besides the ones intregrated into the laptops.
Rusty257
24th August 2007, 13:06
i agree however i would hope for the compression or recoding feature just like is in CDVD now. lots of people including myself only have a 720p monitor so full 1080p doesnt really benefit us. best result would be to fit 720 content on a DVD9.
GotAMD
23rd August 2008, 14:02
Has there been any further thought given to this? I've got a few HD-DVDs that I'd like to convert to regular DVD format :agree:
linx05
23rd August 2008, 14:05
If there was going to be a CloneDVD HD, who would make it? The swiss cheese guys (meant in the nicest way) or the Slysoft peeps?
Charlie
23rd August 2008, 14:50
If and when there will be a CloneDVD HD I doubt it will convert BD or HD to SD DVD-9. I can't wait till they have something for us though as it would be nice. A basic easy to use one step program is all that is holding me back right now to start buying in BD now. Price ain't nothing to me if you want to make a backup without the loss of quality or resolution and retain everything you want.
sej7278
23rd August 2008, 17:34
If and when there will be a CloneDVD HD I doubt it will convert BD or HD to SD DVD-9. I can't wait till they have something for us though as it would be nice. A basic easy to use one step program is all that is holding me back right now to start buying in BD now. Price ain't nothing to me if you want to make a backup without the loss of quality or resolution and retain everything you want.
i'd like a clonedvd mobile hd - that way i could convert bluray disks to mkv/h264 files and watch them on my mac/linux boxes which don't yet have any particularly great bd+ decoders.
converting a 50gb bluray to an 8gb mpeg2 would be a bit rubbish, but a 4 or 8gb matroska would be lovely.
i'd buy a bluray drive if that could be done easily enough.
Adbear
23rd August 2008, 17:55
You do realise that MKV/Matroska is just a wrapper and isn't a codec?
GotAMD
23rd August 2008, 20:12
If and when there will be a CloneDVD HD I doubt it will convert BD or HD to SD DVD-9. I can't wait till they have something for us though as it would be nice. A basic easy to use one step program is all that is holding me back right now to start buying in BD now. Price ain't nothing to me if you want to make a backup without the loss of quality or resolution and retain everything you want.
If that's all you want to do, you can rip using the AnyDVD HD rip feature to an ISO and then burn that. There's no conversion necessary.
Charlie
23rd August 2008, 20:26
Actually you miss read my post I want to be able to compress a BD to fit on a BD-R when I make a backup. I don't want to convert a BD to DVD then burn etc.... Just a BD 50 gig to BD 25 gig and burn. HD-DVD will be an added bonus if done as well.
Adbear
24th August 2008, 02:22
If you want to be able to shrink it down to fit onto a BD-r 25GB and keep the menu structure then can be a lot more complicated as it involves having to basically re-build the whole menu system on Java menu's which is not easy to do. I think that option will be a long way off if ever for Java based discs. At the moment the BDEdit/Tsmuxer route is the best to try and shrink it down, and it is so easy to do. I'd never done it before reading a guide on here last week, so I tried it out and it was simple
sej7278
24th August 2008, 05:33
You do realise that MKV/Matroska is just a wrapper and isn't a codec?
yeah but we don't call avi's divx's do we? (avi=wrapper, divx=codec)
i guess you could say h264 files, but it a bit of a mouthful (not that matroska isn't!)
Duramaximus
24th August 2008, 12:06
Actually you miss read my post I want to be able to compress a BD to fit on a BD-R when I make a backup. I don't want to convert a BD to DVD then burn etc.... Just a BD 50 gig to BD 25 gig and burn. HD-DVD will be an added bonus if done as well.
I already have been doing this. BD50 to BD25 and BD50 to BD9. Here are my steps for BD50 to BD25.
Tools needed.....
Ripbot264
tsMuxeR
BDedit
1. Determine if Bluray main movie is one file or several. If movie is several files use BDedit to find playlist.
2. Open movie or playlist in tsMuxeR and check main movie, HD audio and english and click demux.
3. After demuxing, check to see if the files all add up to 22.5GB or less.
4. If files above are 22.5GB or less use Imgburn (UDF2.5) and create an image to burn.
5. If files above are 22.5GB or greater then use Ripbot to re-encode m2ts file demuxed by tsMuxeR.
6. Open Ripbot264 and import m2ts file (No Audio, No Subtitle) demuxed by tsMuxeR.
7. Re-encode m2ts file (Bluray, 2 Pass, 2250MB Lock Size minus HD Audio and Subtitle size from step 1.
8. Open tsMuxeR and select the m2ts file you created in ripbot (Steps 5 through 8) then uncheck the audio track and check the h.264 track.
9. Open the original m2ts bluray file in tsmuxer (Step 1) and uncheck the h.264 file and check the lossless audio file.
10. Then mux the 2 selected files into bluray.
11. Use Imgburn (UDF2.5) and create an image to burn.
Adbear
24th August 2008, 13:58
yeah but we don't call avi's divx's do we? (avi=wrapper, divx=codec)
i guess you could say h264 files, but it a bit of a mouthful (not that matroska isn't!)
I would, I call it a divx file or xvid etc. I work in video editing so getting the correct name is important otherwise you have no idea what format it's in or what codecs you may need to decode it or if your software will even support it
Charlie
24th August 2008, 14:21
I already have been doing this. BD50 to BD25 and BD50 to BD9. Here are my steps for BD50 to BD25.
Tools needed.....
Ripbot264
tsMuxeR
BDedit
1. Determine if Bluray main movie is one file or several. If movie is several files use BDedit to find playlist.
2. Open movie or playlist in tsMuxeR and check main movie, HD audio and english and click demux.
3. After demuxing, check to see if the files all add up to 22.5GB or less.
4. If files above are 22.5GB or less use Imgburn (UDF2.5) and create an image to burn.
5. If files above are 22.5GB or greater then use Ripbot to re-encode m2ts file demuxed by tsMuxeR.
6. Open Ripbot264 and import m2ts file (No Audio, No Subtitle) demuxed by tsMuxeR.
7. Re-encode m2ts file (Bluray, 2 Pass, 2250MB Lock Size minus HD Audio and Subtitle size from step 1.
8. Open tsMuxeR and select the m2ts file you created in ripbot (Steps 5 through 8) then uncheck the audio track and check the h.264 track.
9. Open the original m2ts bluray file in tsmuxer (Step 1) and uncheck the h.264 file and check the lossless audio file.
10. Then mux the 2 selected files into bluray.
11. Use Imgburn (UDF2.5) and create an image to burn.
That's a lot of steps and if you read my reply I want a one program to work and do it with 1 or 2 click.
Duramaximus
24th August 2008, 15:57
That's a lot of steps and if you read my reply I want a one program to work and do it with 1 or 2 click.
WOW, just trying to help.
DrinkLyeAndDie
24th August 2008, 16:03
WOW, just trying to help.
You did :) but the point being made in this thread and just about every other thread that has existed on this topic is that people want a more simplified process. Slysoft & Elaborate Bytes products tend to be simplistic in terms of usage but complex in what they do. They are easy to use w/o having to do many steps.
I'm not as much interested in compressing BD-25/BD-50 to DVD-9 as I am with being able to remove audio streams, video streams, trailers, etc, from the final output. Sure, being able to cut it down to a DVD-9 would be nice but that's not my first goal.
When/if Slysoft or Elaborate Bytes have a solution we will all know about it. In the meantime we can use methods like the one you suggested.
Duramaximus
24th August 2008, 16:47
You did :) but the point being made in this thread and just about every other thread that has existed on this topic is that people want a more simplified process. Slysoft & Elaborate Bytes products tend to be simplistic in terms of usage but complex in what they do. They are easy to use w/o having to do many steps.
I'm not as much interested in compressing BD-25/BD-50 to DVD-9 as I am with being able to remove audio streams, video streams, trailers, etc, from the final output. Sure, being able to cut it down to a DVD-9 would be nice but that's not my first goal.
When/if Slysoft or Elaborate Bytes have a solution we will all know about it. In the meantime we can use methods like the one you suggested.
I hear ya.
I too am waiting for a one program easy solution. I only dream that slysoft will come out with one.
PrincipalityFusion
24th August 2008, 17:24
I hear ya.
I too am waiting for a one program easy solution. I only dream that slysoft will come out with one.
I don't think that is alot of steps at all honestly, considering what we have been doing to even get rips to play early on in this never ending battle. For me however, time is the key factor in any realistic backup solution and from another post, i don't think i have the time to invest.
See here
http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=127478&postcount=2
SamuriHL
24th August 2008, 18:49
You did :) but the point being made in this thread and just about every other thread that has existed on this topic is that people want a more simplified process. Slysoft & Elaborate Bytes products tend to be simplistic in terms of usage but complex in what they do. They are easy to use w/o having to do many steps.
I'm not as much interested in compressing BD-25/BD-50 to DVD-9 as I am with being able to remove audio streams, video streams, trailers, etc, from the final output. Sure, being able to cut it down to a DVD-9 would be nice but that's not my first goal.
When/if Slysoft or Elaborate Bytes have a solution we will all know about it. In the meantime we can use methods like the one you suggested.
I don't care about DVD-9, but, being able to slightly transcode (note, NOT encode) a disc from 26 or 27 gigs down to 25 to fit on a single layer BD-RE would be sweet. I could definitely go for that. Currently that's not possible and is very likely a far off achievement. For now I'd take the ability to just remove streams, audio, PGS, etc and keep the menus if possible. That'd be really sweet. CloneBD would be a great product to have. Someday I'm sure we'll get there. But it's a VERY complex endeavor as we've discussed in many other threads. Anyone who thinks it's easy to create "CloneBD" has no idea what's involved...
mst_fung
27th December 2008, 22:26
Great forum and thanks for the products guys! :clap:
I was wondering about a few issues:
1) Any update on a Blu-ray version of CloneDVD? I LOVE CloneDVD now!
2) I would like to make a backup copy of my Blu-ray disks for when I travel. I have seen the steps on the previous page but I'm wondering if 1.5 years later (about to enter 2009) if there is an quicker/less steps way to get movies backed-up on a BD-R disk.
3) Also, wife got me a PS3 and I'm wondering if copies of BD-R disks will play on it?
Thanks and happy new year!
SamuriHL
27th December 2008, 22:29
We're told a CloneBD product is being worked on but there is no timeframe for a release on it. But hey, at least they're working on it. :) See my signature for the latest backup methods. It will allow you to make a movie only backup to save you some space. But it still may be too big to fit on a single layer BD-R/E, so, you may need some dual layer BD-R/E's for your backups. And yes, depending on the brand you get, you should have no problem playing them on a PS3.
mst_fung
27th December 2008, 22:51
Thanks for the quick reply! What disks are having the most success on PS3?
Thanks for the guide. I'll have to look into those programs.
How long, on average does it take to make a "movie only" backup? Assume a 2X burn I suppose... thanks again!
SamuriHL
27th December 2008, 22:56
Adbear uses panasonic discs. I've got a couple Verbatim single layer discs I use. As for the time, I don't remember quite how long it takes on average. I've only burned a few myself. Figure 30-45 minutes for a 23 gig disc I would imagine.
mst_fung
27th December 2008, 23:18
Has anyone recommended any particlular burning app over another for Blu-ray via ISO? Thanks again!
SamuriHL
27th December 2008, 23:19
I tend to use ImgBurn for my burning needs.
mst_fung
27th December 2008, 23:21
Excellent. I'll use that. Thanks.
mst_fung
27th December 2008, 23:43
One more question ... if I am planning to use a dual-layer BD-R then using the ISO rip within Anydvd hd would be the easiest way to make an ISO before burning to disk correct?
SamuriHL
27th December 2008, 23:44
Yup. Just remember to NOT check the Keep protection checkbox when creating the image. Then you can just burn it with ImgBurn after it's created. Good to go.
Adbear
28th December 2008, 03:16
And I'd recommend getting at least 1 SL and 1 DL BD-RE so you can run a few tests before committing to BD-R
bigtoe124
28th December 2008, 16:07
I truly feel that if they make we all will buy it . no problem stop crying about the cost an the disc an all the other stuff .if you could not afford this hobby you should have never gotten in to it. my blu ray burner cost $250 the up dates to my pc $580 if i could burn a blu ray disc wright now to back up my blu ray movies (well you know the saying) priceless. P.S. slysoft just get it Done . we will pay.:bowdown:
mst_fung
29th December 2008, 14:58
I truly feel that if they make we all will buy it . no problem stop crying about the cost an the disc an all the other stuff .if you could not afford this hobby you should have never gotten in to it. my blu ray burner cost $250 the up dates to my pc $580 if i could burn a blu ray disc wright now to back up my blu ray movies (well you know the saying) priceless. P.S. slysoft just get it Done . we will pay.:bowdown:
My only request is that they do not force the yearly registration for folks who already own AnyDVD, AnyDVD HD and CloneDVD and have been a customer for sometime now... :agree:
mst_fung
29th December 2008, 15:00
And I'd recommend getting at least 1 SL and 1 DL BD-RE so you can run a few tests before committing to BD-R
That's a great point! My new Blu-ray writer comes with a free BD-RE and I was planing to test on it first! Of course, I'll have to be cognicient of the file sizes using a SL disk.
pdbuzz
29th December 2008, 15:16
This seems like an appropriate question for this post; is there any work/interest in doing a 'movie-only' version of AnyDVDHD?
Charlie
29th December 2008, 15:17
My only request is that they do not force the yearly registration for folks who already own AnyDVD, AnyDVD HD and CloneDVD and have been a customer for sometime now... :agree:
They won't if you own now but if you upgrade after January 1, 2009 then you are under a new license.
Adbear
29th December 2008, 15:19
This seems like an appropriate question for this post; is there any work/interest in doing a 'movie-only' version of AnyDVDHD?
This has been asked before and the answer was No as AnyDVD HD is purely a ripping program that removes the encryption.
mst_fung
29th December 2008, 15:37
They won't if you own now but if you upgrade after January 1, 2009 then you are under a new license.
I suppose the question would be, specifically, is if a HD version of CloneDVD say CloneBD, would be considered a new program or an upgrade of an existing program (CloneDVD).
Charlie
29th December 2008, 15:52
When and if they do release a BD version this will be a new license and an upgrade and not an update to the existing CloneDVD2 from what I understand.
DaGoatRancher
29th December 2008, 23:23
I am hoping that the CloneBD developement is going full speed ahead. Looking forward to a product like this. They will get my money for sure. I have used nothing but CloneDVD and AnyDVD for the past 2 years now and have not been disappointed. Keep up the great work SlySoft.
Sincerely,
Another customer chomping at the bit for "CloneBD" or whatever the name of
the product will be.
boholian
30th December 2008, 00:42
I too am anziously waiting for it. I cannot copy or play anything on blu ray at this time I copy the disc to hard drive but cannot play any of them. It seems a particular program for replay is required.
DrinkLyeAndDie
30th December 2008, 00:45
I too am anziously waiting for it. I cannot copy or play anything on blu ray at this time I copy the disc to hard drive but cannot play any of them. It seems a particular program for replay is required.
Uh... rip to an ISO via Rip to Image..., mount using Virtual CloneDrive and then playback the mounted image with PowerDVD7, PowerDVD8, WinDVD, or TotalMedia Theatre. Of course, you have to be using the version of each of the previously mentioned programs that supports BluRay playback.
stanron
16th March 2013, 02:40
New product called Slyce comming out first quarter of 2013 for blu-ray products.
RBBrittain
16th March 2013, 10:00
New product called Slyce comming out first quarter of 2013 for blu-ray products.Any reason to revive an over-4-year-old thread just to remind us of a sticky in the High Definition Software forum (http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=53392)??? :confused::o:bang: