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bachuka
12th November 2007, 13:53
Has anyone tried the new PowerDVD Ultra build 3319f that was released on 11/9. Has there been any improvements or complications caused by this new patch?

markcu
12th November 2007, 14:00
Dosn't look good at the moment...all of the blu-ray rips I've made refuse to play, with the player giving and error that states the disk is not present or the door is open :(

SlyFox 1
12th November 2007, 14:10
When I opened PowertoDVD this morning it told me to update. I updated though the program not the website. It seems to be working on some titles that I have but I do not have alot of them.
What's New in CyberLink PowerDVD Ultra

Audio


New! - DTS-HD
New! - DTS-ES
New! - DTS Neo:6 (Discrete, Matrix)
New! - Dolby TrueHD
New! - Dolby Digital Plus
New! - ACC Decoder 5.1 Ch
Dolby Digital 5.1
Dolby Virtual Speaker
Dolby Headphone
Dolby Digital EX
Dolby Pro-Logic IIx
CLMEI-2
CyberLink Virtual Speaker
CyberLink Headphone
MLP lossless
Pitch scaling technology
Audio equalizer presets
Audio visualizations
Direct 96/24 output
MP3, WAVVideo


New! - MPEG4 AVC H.264 High-Definition Video
New! - VC-1 High-Definition Video
New! - Adaptive CLEV-2 for video quality enhancement
DivX Decoder
CLPV - Non-linear stretch technology
Video smart de-interlacingPlayback Formats


New! - HD DVD-Video
New! - TwinFormat HD DVD
New! - BD-ROM (HDMV Format)
New! - BD-RE (BDAV Format)
New! - VCPS for DVD+R with content protection
New! - CPRM for DVD-R with content protection
DVD-Audio
External subtitles
HD DVD files (HD DVD-Video) from any folder on your hard drive
Blu-ray Disc files (Blu-ray Disc Video) from any folder on your hard drive
DVD files (DVD-Video, DVD-VR, DVD+VR) from any folder on your hard driveAdvanced Features


New! - UPnP Support - Access your media from a Home Network
New! - Say-It-Again - Automatically repeats the last movie scene
New! - See-It-All - Automatically speeds playback to show as much of the movie as possible
New! - Read-It-Clearly - Moves subtitles from the viewing screen
New! - Freestyle User Interface offers 5 different ways of using CyberLink PowerDVD

njr
12th November 2007, 14:30
7.3.3319f seems to not let you play a ripped BD.
I downgraded to v7.3.3304 & everything plays fine.

Hope this helps

markcu
12th November 2007, 14:38
7.3.3319f seems to not let you play a ripped BD.
I downgraded to v7.3.3304 & everything plays fine.

Hope this helps


Which is stupid considereing there is a 'play movie file from hard disk' option.

Now, if you consider that anydvd now wont work with powerdvd unless you rip the blu-ray to your hard drive, or have multiple versions of power dvd on your system, there seems to be less and less point to having anydvd at all. :(

hotdog453
12th November 2007, 14:46
I can verify that Blu Rays don't seem to want to be played with 3319f.

I get the error of:

Error Code 8090000A
Door is open or disc is not present.

Details: Insert the disc into the drive and make sure that the drive door is closed.

This is with several Blu Rays; Spiderman 1-3, Pursuit of Happyness, Tears of the Sun, etc; all give the same error.

HD-DVDs have a similar problem, with the same effect: Selecting the folder to play from does absolutely nothing. At least with Blu Rays, it LOOKS like it's going to play, then pops up the warning. With HD-DVDs, nothing happens at all.

Odd.

markcu
12th November 2007, 15:02
I can verify that Blu Rays don't seem to want to be played with 3319f.

I get the error of:

Error Code 8090000A
Door is open or disc is not present.

Details: Insert the disc into the drive and make sure that the drive door is closed.

This is with several Blu Rays; Spiderman 1-3, Pursuit of Happyness, Tears of the Sun, etc; all give the same error.

HD-DVDs have a similar problem, with the same effect: Selecting the folder to play from does absolutely nothing. At least with Blu Rays, it LOOKS like it's going to play, then pops up the warning. With HD-DVDs, nothing happens at all.

Odd.


Yep, thats what I get too :( :doh:

hotdog453
12th November 2007, 15:38
How awkward. It's got to be intentional too, it worked before, WinDVD works, MPC works, Nero works... PowerDVD doesn't. Smooth.

James
12th November 2007, 18:04
I suggest you ask Cyberlink support for assistance.

hotdog453
12th November 2007, 18:10
Someone already did:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post12196203

Yup, was about to quote that myself.

From the thread:

Thank you for contacting CyberLink Online Support.

We understand your concern related with PowerDVD Ultra.

Please note that PowerDVD Ultra 3319e and 3319f does not support HD content playback from hard drive.

If you try to play HD content from the hard drive, you will get an Error Code: 8090000A. Door is open or disc in not present.

Please feel free to contact us back for any further clarification or for any assistance related to CyberLink Products.

Thank You and Best Regards

That's nice. So now, regardless of any advances Slysoft may make in cracking anything, we're basically stuck at... what, 3119a for HDD playback? Or up to 3119d?

Fun fun.

Adbear
12th November 2007, 18:21
They'll have to change this, what about all those people who use DVDitPro HD and Encore CS3 to make their own Blu-ray discs. Now they won't be able to test them and it'll make people move to something else

Peer
12th November 2007, 18:24
That's nice. So now, regardless of any advances Slysoft may make in cracking anything, we're basically stuck at... what, 3119a for HDD playback? Or up to 3119d?

Fun fun.

Don't worry - there are solutions to this and they are already in the pipeline. No dirty hacks, nothing mean, simple solution, just plenty of work on our side.
Be patient :)

hotdog453
12th November 2007, 18:24
There's not a chance in hell they did this on their own volition. This was forced upon them by the studios. Why in the world else would they cut out a feature such as HDD playing, but not document it anywhere in the release?

Don't worry - there are solutions to this and they are already in the pipeline. No dirty hacks, nothing mean, simple solution, just plenty of work on our side.
Be patient

*Dry humps leg of Peer*

markcu
12th November 2007, 18:37
Don't worry - there are solutions to this and they are already in the pipeline. No dirty hacks, nothing mean, simple solution, just plenty of work on our side.
Be patient :)

With respect, is there any indication of how long we need to be patient for? It would be good to know if we were going to have to wait hours/days/weeks/months for a fix or new version.

Cheers

Mark.

pjouy
12th November 2007, 19:21
Yup, was about to quote that myself.

From the thread:
That's nice. So now, regardless of any advances Slysoft may make in cracking anything, we're basically stuck at... what, 3119a for HDD playback? Or up to 3119d?

Fun fun.

At last! At last someone who says clearly what I try to say since few days or weeks: AnyDVD HD is now quite useless. PowerDVD has cracked AnyDVD!!! Who could imagine that?!?

Now, if we still want to play HD contents there are only two solutions:
- quit PowerDVD to another player (perhaps Nero 8's ShowTime should work)
- wait that AnyDVD's team "cracks" again PowerDVD's checking routines.

Sorry if I am frustrated now, but there is now about 3 weeks that I try to make understand SlySoft's team that we are going to have a lot of problems with PowerDVD if something new is not done on AnyDVD HD. I try to play BD-J discs with older versions (understand PDVD 3104 and older) => black screen; and with newer version I need to rip the disc to hard drive (nothing better than having an hour to spend ripping a dual-layer BD)..... which is now nothing more than useless because it doesn't work anymore.
And everybody knows that if we want to play new-content-features on BD, we need to use latests versions of PDVD because they often patch their bugs (to be polite) and add new protections...

I really hope that AnyDVD's team will release a patch verrrrry soon. Now I'm trying to relax by trying Nero's ShowTime.

hotdog453
12th November 2007, 19:42
What exactly do you expect them to patch at this point? There's going to come a point where PDVD is going to need to be updated to play newer titles; if that update comes with a disabling of playing from a folder, then I doubt there's anything Slysoft can do to get around that.

I have never once expected Slysoft to "make it work" with PowerDVD. AnyDVD rips a disk to HDD, and removes protection: That's all I ever personally wanted it to do. The oddities and niggles of PDVD should not be Slysoft's problem. Even though the newest version of PDVD won't play from a HDD, Slysoft still rips just fine... the question is, what do we use instead?

I've personally found that Nero Showtime is an awkward, still born joke, WinDVD8 isn't much better, and, well, the Arcsoft trial is all in Japanese so far, but it's basically a rebadged WinDVD8.

Adbear
12th November 2007, 19:48
I contacted cyberlink support who told me the same thing, so I told them I wanted a refund as I need that function to be able to test Blu-ray discs I've authored myself using Encore CS3 and this was the main reason I'd purchased the software

hotdog453
12th November 2007, 19:51
Good luck with that :D

pjouy
12th November 2007, 19:56
@ hotdog453 > I am not saying that AnyDVD must solve PDVD's bugs, but there IS a feature that AnyDVD must do well: play directly from the disc.
If PDVD detects that the disc does not seems normal, it asks you to update. So my conclusion is that AnyDVD does not fix a thing in the BD's structure, and THIS is Slysoft's problem.

James
12th November 2007, 20:03
@ hotdog453 > I am not saying that AnyDVD must solve PDVD's bugs, but there IS a feature that AnyDVD must do well: play directly from the disc.
If PDVD detects that the disc does not seems normal, it asks you to update. So my conclusion is that AnyDVD does not fix a thing in the BD's structure, and THIS is Slysoft's problem.
We're on it...

bk1987
12th November 2007, 20:45
James, is there any way to make a player that could play back the rips from the HDD is it even possible to do some thing like this, pwdvd has not even been that good i would like to get rid of them anyway i hope you guys can work your magic on this

DrinkLyeAndDie
12th November 2007, 20:57
There's not a chance in hell they did this on their own volition. This was forced upon them by the studios. Why in the world else would they cut out a feature such as HDD playing, but not document it anywhere in the release?

I have to agree. I think they were probably strongly nudged to remove the playback.

My real issue is that if you go to see What's New they still say you can playback HD and BD content from the HDD. This is now a patently false statement and they should update that.

Anyone purchasing the product right this moment has made a purchase based upon a bold faced lie from CyberLink under what PowerDVD Ultra can do. Can we say fraud? Why is it that a person needs to contact support to even find out that they removed HDD playback, anyway?

Having said all that I had to downgrade back to 3104a.1 from 3119f, anyway. Any of the newer updates contain some executable that I can only guess exists to check on drives with a name like CLChkDrv.exe or similar. I end up with like 5 instances of it and they only appear when I start PowerDVD but when I exit the program they remain and they literally lock my system after slowing it to a crawl.

The more they update the software the more issues I seem to have. I guess I'll strictly use TheaterTek DVD from now on. I just found using PowerDVD was useful sometimes. Now I see it as nothing more than a major headache.

rcoe
12th November 2007, 21:26
Yes I too think their hand has been forced by the studios. They are caught in the middle between the customers and the studios.

I imagine with the emergance of more affordable hddvd/blueray drives the studios are very concerned with what we are doing with their:disagree: content even if we have legally purchased it. I would be willing to bet that cyberlink has been put on notice to either lock down their product or be excluded from further updates and key releases.

We can only hope that other vendor will be able to put out products in the future to ive us more of a choice. Would be very nice if theatertek could get in the game, but unfortunately I do not see this happening in the near future.

dmunjal
13th November 2007, 00:57
Sorry, just joining this thread but does the new PowerDVD version also prevent playing Blu-Rays from HDD that are set up using an .ISO file with DaemonTools? AFAIK, this would look like a drive and not from HDD.

For those who have upgraded, can you give that a try?

MonkeyBall
13th November 2007, 05:03
Sorry, just joining this thread but does the new PowerDVD version also prevent playing Blu-Rays from HDD that are set up using an .ISO file with DaemonTools? AFAIK, this would look like a drive and not from HDD.

For those who have upgraded, can you give that a try?

It seems someone else in another thread mentioned that this still worked.

In fact I would not be suprised if Slysoft's answer to PowerDVD restriction is to offer some virtual DVD drive that points to a directory that contains BD content...

spcav
13th November 2007, 05:49
Official response from Cyberlink to my question:

<< As we informed you in our previous email that with version 3319f you will not be able to play HD contents from Hard disk drive.

This feature has been discontinued in 3319f version and above.>>

So it is now official that it’s not a bug but a feature (aka it will not be fixed in following releases)!!!!

I didn’t follow the thread from the start so excuse me if I am repeating old news, but I would like to ask:

Is Slysoft planning to ‘fix’ this?

I know that it is not 100% Slysofts ‘area’ but, taking into account that PDVD could easily be ‘tricked’ (ex using a mounted iso image of a br / hd-dvd rip), I think that this will not be too hard for Slysoft and also will gain many happy customers.

willywonton
13th November 2007, 06:27
In this thread or another on this general subject I commented that 3319 worked OK on my system(s). It still does.

I've now checked and have found that by luck rather than design the Cyberlink update service at

http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/patch/enu/index.jsp

indicates that my version is up to date, but on checking it is at 7.3.3310.0 so not apparently the 3319f version

This version which I think was issued in October 07 seems to work fine for all the featurs previously known and expected to work

So if the product's functionality is now different, then it is time to switch to another product. That is certainly my recommendation to others if that is the PDVD position.

malkit
13th November 2007, 09:26
It seems someone else in another thread mentioned that this still worked.

In fact I would not be suprised if Slysoft's answer to PowerDVD restriction is to offer some virtual DVD drive that points to a directory that contains BD content...

What is the best way to turn a ripped bd or hd dvd to an iso image?
Thanks

SamuriHL
13th November 2007, 09:28
Nero or ImgBurn should be able to do it in their respective build modes. In fact I just used ImgBurn the other day to turn an HD DVD into an ISO image and had no problems. I suspect it could do the same for the files on your hard drive. I know Nero can do so.

malkit
13th November 2007, 09:32
Nero or ImgBurn should be able to do it in their respective build modes. In fact I just used ImgBurn the other day to turn an HD DVD into an ISO image and had no problems. I suspect it could do the same for the files on your hard drive. I know Nero can do so.

Thanks for that!
Then you could presumably use nero virtual drive to mount the image and play it with pdvd?

w_illboy
13th November 2007, 10:40
Having relatively recently paid for PowerDVD Ultra I am far from happy with this development. However there (as I understand it) are not any decent alternative for use on my Media PC. (although cyberlink have yet to fix the spdif out issue on vista)

I do however have complete faith in Slysoft and am sure they are working hard (as illustrated by the recent AnyDVDHD developments) to implement a work around, virtual drive or what ever.
I'll do my best to be patient.

I am however getting ticked off by all this anti-consumerism by the studios and as much as I love HD (own 80+ titles in both camps) am beginning to think that I'll go back to the cheaper and less painful upscaled dvds.

Muttley
13th November 2007, 10:46
These are the numbers for element5, who handle all refunds for PowerDVD: -

Customer service USA
(Language: English):
Tel.: +1 952 646-5022 or +1 800 406 4966
Fax: +1 952 646-4552

Customer Service Europe
(Languages: German / English / French / Italian / Spanish / Portuguese):
Tel.: +49 221 31088-30
Fax: +49 221 31088-29

Have just requested my refund :)

spcav
13th November 2007, 12:29
@ w_illboy - Muttley

I am in the exact same position.

The only reason I have not already asked for a refund is that I am waiting for Slysoft and also maybe Cyberlink, based on their latest response:

<<As we were getting many queries regarding the same issue, we escalated the issue to our Research Team as every customer is valuable for us. We always work for the satisfaction of our customers.

As our customers were not happy with this latest change in the software, we escalated the issue to our Research team.

And we might get some positive response from them very soon.>>

Most probably their response is just a marketing move.

But it is good to see that they understood how bad this turned to be for them and that they risk losing customers.

All of us who bough it we should ask for a refund and then I am sure that they will change their minds on this.

This is the only way to make big companies care.

DonCarlos
13th November 2007, 12:50
I don't know why but I can playback from harddrive with 3319f. But to be sure I too roll back to 3104. And then I will act like this:"never change a winning team" Slysoft wil crack every AACS version so we can decrypt every HD media and then we do not have to care about PowerDVD. And I hope Slysoft will release an own Media player so we can throw the crappy PowerDVD into the trash.

hddvdsupporter
13th November 2007, 13:16
cyberlinks software powerdvd is not longer "Fair Use". I don't support this software longer and you all should follow.

Clams
13th November 2007, 13:33
I think everyone who bought it recently outta ask for a refund. And then people need to WAIT until the format issues sort out.. and some really good HTPC tools get developed for HD stuff. These things take time... if you wanna be the early-bird you just keep opening your wallet.

-W

w_illboy
13th November 2007, 13:33
Just emailed Cyberlink to add my voice and ask for a refund if not sorted V. Soon.

Clams
13th November 2007, 14:15
There's reports of a usefull bug...

Try initiating playback from within Windows as opposed to using the PowerDVD interface.

-W

Adbear
13th November 2007, 14:20
There's reports of a usefull bug...

Try initiating playback from within Windows as opposed to using the PowerDVD interface.

-W

How exactly?

Clams
13th November 2007, 14:23
Ummm go to the folder / file and use "Open With".

-W

Adbear
13th November 2007, 14:26
Don't get an 'open with' option in windows explorer for folders

bingobill
13th November 2007, 14:32
Don't get an 'open with' option in windows explorer for folders

The guy who reports this on AVS is opening from within My Movies.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=12204215&postcount=3664

Adbear
13th November 2007, 14:37
but then mine doesn't give me an 'open with' option just a play using windows media player

Xtrap1979
13th November 2007, 16:10
The "open with" option doesn't usually work. You can play the file from the hard disk but there's only one audio stream available (in most movies I tested it's the stream with commentary) and you can't change any settings of the movie. Unfortunately.....

peterbus
13th November 2007, 17:39
just read cyberlink response on avsform,its a 2 finger response,we should all request a refund,(when we can find another player) and stop knocking any dvd,apart from the odd prob its a bloody brilliant programme.

SamuriHL
13th November 2007, 17:56
Until another player comes along that can beat PowerDVD, my solution is to just use my PS3 to create ISO images for Blu-ray and ImgBurn or Nero to create ISO images for HD DVD and mount them with Daemon Tools. End of discussion as far as I'm concerned for my particular setup. The fact that they're removing functionality IS complete BS, however, it's not going to impact my particular situation. I've hated PowerDVD Ultra from the very beginning and my opinion of it has only gotten worse and worse. Unfortunately for us HTPC people, it's the best option we have currently.

I don't entirely place the blame on Cyberlink, however. Like others, I believe the problems with PowerDVD Ultra are a result of the AACSLA coercing them into making sacrifices in design and usability of their product. They're also being forced into programming more difficult security measures to prevent hacking of the MKB's rather than focusing their development efforts on fixing bugs. HDCP requirements also fall heavily on them as their hands are (mostly) tied, there, as well. The key revocation threat hangs over them every 90 days. Either they play ball or watch their key get revoked and have a *LOT* of really pissed off people when that happens. THIS, btw, is an EXTREME example of why DRM is pure unadulterated BS. When a company can walk into another company's office and basically knock over a potted plant and say "you know....it'd be a real shame if anything were to happen to your license", I find that to be ridiculous. The point I'm making here is that I have a lot of anger towards the current state of PowerDVD Ultra, as I have since the beginning, but, we need to focus that anger correctly and direct it at the right target. Cyberlink's hands are mostly tied. Could they do things better? Sure. But given the circumstances, would we do any better than they have? I doubt it.

pjouy
13th November 2007, 18:47
Really good post, SamuriHL.
But I think AnyDVD can do someting to prevent PowerDVD seing that the data has been changed on the disc...

techstyled
13th November 2007, 18:52
This is probably not the best place to put this as it might not really be related to a build 3319f problem, but...

I don't seem to be able to make Power DVD Ultra recognize my Dell 3007 as HDCP compliant. I've had problems before with Power DVD telling me it wasn't going to let me run in 2560x1600 to playback HD material but this seems to be something different.

Anyone else experiencing this with a Dell 3007 or have run across similar posts?

Seems enjoying HD content on your computer is a perilous journey these days... :(

SamuriHL
13th November 2007, 19:03
Really good post, SamuriHL.
But I think AnyDVD can do someting to prevent PowerDVD seing that the data has been changed on the disc...

Yes, it probably can. The question is...why should it have to? Slysoft shouldn't be forced to make workarounds for absurdities in other programs. Yes, they've already done so in the past with other software, but, this can easily spiral out of control. You make a concession for PowerDVD Ultra. Next you need a different "fix" for Arcsoft's product, etc. I just don't want to see this kind of stuff become pervasive. PowerDVD should not have had that functionality removed, plain and simple. And because they are likely being pressured, it was not 100% their fault. However, now Slysoft has to counter with some more ridiculous code. So the game of cat and mouse will forever continue. This nonsense takes away resources from both sides that could be put to better use IMO.

hotdog453
13th November 2007, 20:12
Yes, they've already done so in the past with other software, but, this can easily spiral out of control. You make a concession for PowerDVD Ultra. Next you need a different "fix" for Arcsoft's product, etc. I just don't want to see this kind of stuff become pervasive. PowerDVD should not have had that functionality removed, plain and simple.

Exactly. It's becoming more of "Fix PowerDVD's stupid problems since everyone uses it" instead of "beating BD+ fully and completely". I'd love to know how the resources of Slysoft are being divided, and this isn't a slam against them, I love them, but having to spend time to fix a problem caused by a retarded move from a 3rd party, which happens to be the only semi-decent way to play back HD material, seems a bit self defeating.

Might as well begin to call the program "AnyPowerDVD".

Turtleggjp
13th November 2007, 21:54
I think the best solution to this problem is for someone or some company to release a HD disc player that does not have AACS keys. Such a player would require the user to decrypt the disc in some way, either with AnyDVD or other free tools, and then it could work. That way it would not be tied down with all the AACS restrictions, including HDCP. That way, those that want to play by all the rules and bend over backwards for graphics cards and HDCP displays can just buy PowerDVD and be done. Those of us who want to backup our discs, or run movie servers on our home networks, can use the unliscensed player along with AnyDVD.

hotdog453
13th November 2007, 21:59
If only there was already a company who made such an amazing product as to decrypt AACS, and remove protection from the discs... seems like that would be the logical company to make such a marvelous, HD-playing product... :D

meimeiriver
14th November 2007, 01:57
Don't worry - there are solutions to this and they are already in the pipeline. No dirty hacks, nothing mean, simple solution, just plenty of work on our side.
Be patient :)

With all due respect, but would it surprise you if I told you that this ticks me off royally?! I bought PowerDVD primarily for playing (legal) HD content off my hard disk; and now it's useless. I'm not sure which doped-up exec came up with this brilliant plan, but you can tell him from me that he's an idiot. Way to keep your customers!!

Ozzlander
14th November 2007, 02:15
Way to keep your customers!!

If you're annoyed with Cyberlink for changing the way PowerDVD works, then complain to them. Slysoft didn't force this change on Cyberlink. If PowerDVD doesn't play legally generated HD content from hard disk, then they may be breaching advertising standards, as (as far as I am aware), they still advertise this capability. Either way, the Slysoft forums aren't the place to get action from Cyberlink about PowerDVD.

meimeiriver
14th November 2007, 02:20
If you're annoyed with Cyberlink for changing the way PowerDVD works, then complain to them. Slysoft didn't force this change on Cyberlink. If PowerDVD doesn't play legally generated HD content from hard disk, then they may be breaching advertising standards, as (as far as I am aware), they still advertise this capability. Either way, the Slysoft forums aren't the place to get action from Cyberlink about PowerDVD.

Fair enough. It's ultimately a PowerDVD issue.

Peer
14th November 2007, 04:19
With all due respect, but would it surprise you if I told you that this ticks me off royally?! I bought PowerDVD primarily for playing (legal) HD content off my hard disk; and now it's useless. I'm not sure which doped-up exec came up with this brilliant plan, but you can tell him from me that he's an idiot. Way to keep your customers!!

How come you think, I'd have that kind of connection with Cyberlink, so I could tell them that kind of thing ? :confused:
You should be complaining to cyberlink, not us.

w_illboy
14th November 2007, 07:05
I think he was just blowing off steam like the rest of us.
He's not really expecting you to make any phone calls.

I don't think anybody here is misguided enough to think that this was cyberlink’s decision. It was however cyberlink’s decision to sneek this out in an update and call it a feature.
They could have fessed up and said that the big bad is forcing this and they don't have any options. (rose tinted glasses perhaps)

But hey its happened, nothing we can do about it but wait for a fix which will most likely use virtual drive technology. Slysoft have developed this in other progs so hopefully it won't take to long.

In the mean time I'm using 3104 and avoiding new Blu-ray disks

meimeiriver
14th November 2007, 13:51
I think he was just blowing off steam like the rest of us.
He's not really expecting you to make any phone calls.

I don't think anybody here is misguided enough to think that this was cyberlink’s decision. It was however cyberlink’s decision to sneek this out in an update and call it a feature.
They could have fessed up and said that the big bad is forcing this and they don't have any options. (rose tinted glasses perhaps)

But hey its happened, nothing we can do about it but wait for a fix which will most likely use virtual drive technology. Slysoft have developed this in other progs so hopefully it won't take to long.

In the mean time I'm using 3104 and avoiding new Blu-ray disks


Thanks for sayin'. Yes, I was just blowing off some steam; and it was the middle of the night for me, and I now see I expressed myself very clumsily. My apologies for that. If anything, I look to SlySoft to save us. :) And I think they will -- they always have in the past. So, by all means, keep up the good work!

And yes, I'd rather they came out and said, "Sorry, RIAA and thugs are breathing down our neck, and we have no choice but to comply," then this little stunt they pulled. Well, way it is is the way it is.

P.S. I read (on this forum, *g*) that they're gonna release a new patch, come the 16th of this month, allegedly 'fixing' something. I hope by then sanity has gotten the better of them again, but can't say I'm struck with an overabundance of confidence in the matter.

P.P.S. PowerDVD 7.3 Ultra 3319a still works, too. And it still plays BD+ content from harddisk as well! Very luckily for me I still had that one my XP partition (I only got me the upgrade because PowerDVD ain't exactly rock-stable in Vista Ultimate).

Clams
14th November 2007, 21:10
P.S. I read (on this forum, *g*) that they're gonna release a new patch, come the 16th of this month, allegedly 'fixing' something. I hope by then sanity has gotten the better of them again, but can't say I'm struck with an overabundance of confidence in the matter.

The new patch has not been claimed to "fix" anything.

-W

WeeJockPooPongMcPlop
15th November 2007, 05:50
Has anyone tried playing a movie from the hard drive whilst any other disc is in the drive ?

KH

spcav
15th November 2007, 07:03
Has anyone tried playing a movie from the hard drive whilst any other disc is in the drive ?

KH
Hmmmmm cunning :p

Lets give it a shot.

meimeiriver
15th November 2007, 11:24
Hmmmmm cunning :p

Lets give it a shot.

I highly doubt it's really checking for a closed door. A hard disk folder has, by definition, no drive door. :) This might, and only might, work if the disc were played from a virtual drive (like, em, AnyDVD). But even then it would be most unlikely: why would ANY player check for a closed door on a drive it's not playing from? That doesn't make sense.

I bet ya it's just a software message. They could also have said: "Nope, we don't play HD content from folders any more. Sucks to be you." Instead, they couch it in some sort of half-regular error, like: "Drive bay open." Yeah, right. Except we weren't even playing from drive -- not even a virtual one.

Trader
15th November 2007, 21:26
I think Slysoft should setup a Donations section on their website. That way people who want to donate 5 or 10 bucks towards the cause can. I would rather pay slysoft then powerDVD any day.

Get the word out!!!!

ripped
8th December 2007, 16:26
This may be the alternative to Power DVD for HD/BD playback incl ripped to hard disk, although its not available to purchase just yet. I've registered to be updated when available...

http://www.arcsoft.com/products/totalmediatheatre/

Adbear
8th December 2007, 16:49
yep, it's been mentioned much earlier in this thread, and quite a few others, but seems a long time in coming. They originally said an English demo version would be out around October i think

bk1987
8th December 2007, 18:57
i tried the japanese trial edition thats available all i can say is the player had better pq than pwdvd and played every movie i could throw at it but i did have some problems with banding and what looked like interlacing lines all through the picture but i seem to be the only one who had this problem but most people are having good results ,http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=900666

pcomazzi
9th December 2007, 00:06
am i missing something ... after upgrading to this version I can still play HDDVDs from the hard drive. I don't have BD, so i dont know about that functionality.

Adbear
9th December 2007, 04:52
am i missing something ... after upgrading to this version I can still play HDDVDs from the hard drive. I don't have BD, so i dont know about that functionality.

Are you playing back the whole film with menu's or just the evo file? I'd have to assume the evo file or your version isn't the latest as they have disabled the 'play movie from harddisc' function for HD DVD and Blu-ray

Cyborg-21
9th December 2007, 04:59
Wait...so in later Power DVD versions (after 3319) you can still playback just the .evo file ? I thought you could not do this.

pcomazzi
9th December 2007, 11:44
Double check and i do have the latest version installed. I think works because i use MyMovies to start playback on the HDDVD, which then launches PowerDVD. If i start PowerDVD first, then choose open movie file on hard drive, it will not let me play any of th HDDVDs. So that is my work around for now ...

jbrisbin
9th December 2007, 14:54
Double check and i do have the latest version installed. I think works because i use MyMovies to start playback on the HDDVD, which then launches PowerDVD. If i start PowerDVD first, then choose open movie file on hard drive, it will not let me play any of th HDDVDs. So that is my work around for now ...

It is at least plausible that the implementation might have disabled a menu item but left the very limited command line functionality of PowerDVD that MyMovies uses intact. They would be in entirely different places in the code.

This may not effect the BD+ must-have-AACS requirement that would more broadly prevent a BD+ disc from working on the HD, even under MyMovies. I understand that that 3319f began enforcing that, as well.

So far, 3104 has worked for me.

smonks
9th December 2007, 18:10
Hey guys like I mentioned in the last pdvd release thread you can open pdvd then take and drag and drop the ripped disc folder onto the pdvd interface and it will begin to play the movie. Granted all the menus and extra content is lost but it is somewhat of a workaround. The player will popup some garbage asking you to disable dinterlacing or something but it works.

Rathbone80
15th December 2007, 13:16
YEAHHHH!!!

I found a way to crack the 3516 BD region protection. Works!

Vista: Delete X:\ProgramData\CyberLink\BDNAV\brf.dat

Will be regenerated with 5 new changes when you start PDVD.

I won't tell you how I found it, in case Cyberlink reads here.

I edited the file to get more changes than 5, but is doesn't go higher as 6.

SuperGoof
15th December 2007, 13:45
You also have to kill some process (better to remove it from autorun at all) which supposed to "protect" this file. I do not remember the name of the process as I installed 3516 for short time and then returned back to 3319a.

Rathbone80
15th December 2007, 14:07
It's brs.exe (Bluray Region Service)

It is also possible to set the desired region manually in the file. Maybe Slysoft can implement a PowerDVD region changer in AnyDVD.

LINUS
16th December 2007, 03:57
YEAHHHH!!!

I found a way to crack the 3516 BD region protection. Works!



Great, thanks for sharing.


Vista: Delete X:\ProgramData\CyberLink\BDNAV\brf.dat


Has anybody done that for XP?

Omarock
27th December 2007, 20:02
I can't play .mkv file on powerdvd ultra 7.2... I tried changing its name and installed Hiili media splinter but no luck%#!?????

Need help I can play Hd wma but not .mkv container format. Is there a way to change the container (lossless)?

jerichoy2j
13th January 2008, 20:30
just installed CyberLink PowerDVD Ultra Deluxe v7.3 Build 3319a on vista x64 and i got the the error 8090000A door open

oliverg
2nd April 2008, 02:14
I used the drag folder onto the Power DVD 'splash' page - it worked! Except - no sound.

SlyFox 1
5th April 2009, 11:56
Anyone tried the new patch for PowertoDVD9 Ultra build 1530?


What's New in CyberLink PowerDVD 9

Video


New!- TrueTheater™ HD (High-definition) - up scales the original video to a higher resolution version, which is sharper and artifact-free. It is capable of up sampling 480p video up to 1080p.
New!- TrueTheater™ Motion - enables frame rate up sampling, from 24 fps up to 60 fps, to make panning scenes, particularly in action movies, play smoother.
New!- TrueTheater™ Lighting (CyberLink Eagle Vision2) - video enhancement technology that dynamically adjusts the brightness/contrast/saturation ratios in scenes that are overly dark or too bright. It is optimized for LCD displays.
New!- TrueTheater™ Stretch (CyberLink Pano Vision) - video stretching technology that produces minimal distortion in the center of the picture. It provides the best stretching solution for 2.35:1 content in widescreen.
SMPTE VC-1 High-Definition Video*
MPEG-4 AVC (H.264) High-Definition Video**
Smart Video De-interlacing
Audio


Dolby Digital Plus*
Dolby TrueHD*
Dolby Digital 5.1
Dolby Digital EX**
Dolby Pro Logic IIx**
Dolby Headphone**
Dolby Virtual Speaker**
DTS-HD*
DTS**
DTS 96/24**
AAC Channel support**
TrueTheater™ - Surround (Multi-channel Environment Impression Mode)
TrueTheater™ - Surround (Virtual Speaker Mode)
TrueTheater™ - Surround (Headphone Mode)
Pitch scaling technology
Audio equalizer presets
Audio visualizations
Direct 96/24 output
Playback Formats


New! - AVCHD playback*
New! - AVCREC playback*
New! - BD-R 1.1 playback*
New! - BD-RE 2.1 playback*
New! - BD Profile 1.1(Bonus View) playback*
New! - BD Profile 2.0(BD Live) playback*
BD-ROM (Blu-ray Disc) playback*
BD-RE (Blu-ray Disc) playback*
VCPS for DVD+VR with content protection
CPRM for DVD-VR with content protection**
External subtitles
DVD files (DVD-Video, DVD-VR, DVD+VR) from any folder on your hard drive
Advanced Features


New! - PowerDVD Cinema playback mode (with full remote control support)
New! - PowerDVD MCE plug-in (seamless integration with Windows Media Center)
Movie Collection Support
Movie Remix
Integration with MoovieLive Service
UPnP Support - Access your media from a Home Network
Say-It-Again - Automatically repeats the last movie scene
See-It-All - Automatically speeds playback to show as much of the movie as possible
Read-It-Clearly - Moves subtitles from the viewing screen
* - Available in Ultra Edition (Blu-ray Disc) only
** - Available in Deluxe version and Ultra Edition (Blu-ray Disc)

http://www.cyberlink.com/downloads/support/powerdvd/patches_en_US.html

DrinkLyeAndDie
5th April 2009, 18:04
Anyone tried the new patch for PowertoDVD9 Ultra build 1530?


What's New in CyberLink PowerDVD 9

It seems to load a little faster. Other than that it still has the same virtual drive issue with Live Free or Die Hard BD even when playing the commercial disc from my BD reader. The only note in he changelog is it supports newer discs.

The brand new PowerDVD7 update (build 5105) that was quietly released and not posted on the update page also just says it supports new discs .

Adbear
5th April 2009, 18:40
So I wonder how long we'll have to wait for it to appear on the Cyberlink site

DrinkLyeAndDie
5th April 2009, 19:14
So I wonder how long we'll have to wait for it to appear on the Cyberlink site

This is the PowerDVD7 5105 retail update: http://update.cyberlink.com/ftpdload/patch/PowerDVD/DVD090217-02/CyberLink.5105_TaRe42_DVD090217-02.exe

This is the OEM update [apparently]: http://update.cyberlink.com/ftpdload/patch/PowerDVD/DVD090216-13/CyberLink.5105_TaRe42_DVD090216-13.exe

I got this information from another forum.

I have no intention of updating, however.

Adbear
6th April 2009, 02:28
Thanks for that.
I can confirm that the OEM one only gives 2 channel audio, but if you install the retail over the OEM it works fine and gives you full channel audio

RBBrittain
6th April 2009, 08:36
This is the PowerDVD7 5105 retail update: http://update.cyberlink.com/ftpdload/patch/PowerDVD/DVD090217-02/CyberLink.5105_TaRe42_DVD090217-02.exe

This is the OEM update [apparently]: http://update.cyberlink.com/ftpdload/patch/PowerDVD/DVD090216-13/CyberLink.5105_TaRe42_DVD090216-13.exe

I got this information from another forum.

I have no intention of updating, however.I can confirm Slumdog Millionaire BD requires this update to play (until SlySoft updates AnyDVD HD for it, that is). PowerDVD 7 retail patch 4617a, the latest version on Cyberlink's update page, won't play it; it tells you to go to a Cyberlink page that installs an ActiveX control, then gives you the first URL above. That version plays it just fine (edit: with AnyDVD HD disabled on an HDCP-compliant system).

sondeterra
6th April 2009, 13:51
Thanks for the link to update PDVD 7, both updates fo P7&8 seem to have repaired the audio problems I was having even if the update for 8 broke reloaded, roll on Slyplayer.