Can't navigate BD menus with PowerDVD, WASAPI and ReClock

[magicland]

Hi there,

Long time user of ReClock, first time poster.. This is a tricky problem to explain so here goes...

I'm using Reclock v1.8.6.2 together with PowerDVD 9 exclusively for blu-ray disc playback. All working perfectly except for one thing: I'm unable to properly navigate the movie root menu's on various discs. By "properly" I mean this:

1. pop a disc in and load up PDVD
2. playback gets to the movie's root menu (play, special features etc etc)
3. hit the right or left keys on my remote (or arrows on my keyboard) 2 or 3 times and then nothing....PDVD hangs and I have to kill the process.

Here's what I know:

1. No issues at all if I stop ReClock from loading with PDVD
2. Seems to only occur with WASAPI selected in ReClock (for PCM output over HDMI), not a problem if a use DirectShow
3. Seems to be unique to "newer" discs which contain "sound effects" when navigating the menu items. This seems to be the key as these sounds are only heard if ReClock is NOT loaded.

Running Win7 x64.

I appreciate this is probably an obscure problem but I'd appreciate any suggestions or perhaps a fix? Let me know if I can provide any further details.

Cheers.

[el Filou]

The Blu-ray specs mandate that the player must be able to do the sound decoding and mixing, to be able to mix "sound effects" in menus, do interactive content, and also commentary tracks etc.
I don't know how PowerDVD works internally, but it might just be that when it's asked to mix sounds by a disc, its renderer uses DirectSound to do it instead of doing it all by itself, which would explain why it has problems with exclusive mode. Just an idea.

[Jong]

Works fine with PDVD7 in WASAPI exclusive mode here. No idea about PDVD9.

[magicland]

Works fine with PDVD7 in WASAPI exclusive mode here. No idea about PDVD9.

I just tried PDVD7 (removed 9 first) and I experience the exact same problem. What's your speaker env in PDVD set to? PCM over HDMI or somthing else?

I don't know how PowerDVD works internally, but it might just be that when it's asked to mix sounds by a disc, its renderer uses DirectSound to do it instead of doing it all by itself, which would explain why it has problems with exclusive mode. Just an idea.

I actually think you might be onto something here.

I've attached a log file for the developers. Hopefully this will point to a cause. I captured the issue from start to finish, ie, up to the point where the BD disc loads and ReClock causes PDVD to hang after a brief period of navigating the main menu. Let me know if I can assist further. I'd love to get to the bottom of this.

Cheers.

[EDIT] I don't pretend to understand the log contents but this looks a little suspicious:
24.89s 000aac WARNING WASAPI buffer overflow!
24.89s 000aac WARNING WASAPI buffer overflow!

[Jong]

I have PDVD7 set to 8-Speakers.

Reclock then passes that out as PCM over HDMI (WASAPI exclusive). I am on W7 32-bit. Honestly, no problems at all.

[magicland]

Maybe it's a Win7 x64 thing. I have the latest video and HDMI drivers (ATI4550). I've tried the alternate Realtek drivers also but the problem's the same.

Any luck interpreting the logfile please?

[GrandeBoma]

same problem I have, described here
http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=24998&page=22

no solution except use tmt3 instead of pdvd9

[magicland]

Originally Posted by GrandeBoma

same problem I have, described here
http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=24998&page=22

no solution except use tmt3 instead of pdvd9

hmmm, ok. Thanks for the heads up. I don't have TMT, sooo... That's pretty useless. I hope the ReClock devs look into this issue eventually. If it can work with WASAPI in TMT then it should work in PDVD.

[saala]

Originally Posted by GrandeBoma

same problem I have, described here
http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=24998&page=22

no solution except use tmt3 instead of pdvd9

Same here. I got this issue too.
Using Vista 32bit.

TMT3 works fine.

[Jong]

So, those having problems, how are you configuring PDVD audio? "HDMI" or "6/8 speaker"?