slow rip speeds

[profcolli]

Originally Posted by Goris

I have tried to uninstall SPTD multiple times with the tool from the original author, but always ended up with a borked system, and no more working DVD drive. It's pure malware !

Using the tool is not sufficient. You need to use autoruns and eradicate sptd from the currentcontrolset and from legacy drivers. Google is your friend

[Webslinger]

Originally Posted by profcolli

which shows that GJ did NOT work on my system with AnyDvd HD running

I didn't miss that at all. GJ disables Anydvd automatically when profiles are run.

However, some PC game protections do (wrongly) create issues with Anydvd. That's not a Game Jackal issue in those cases. That's a bug in an old Securom protection (which Star Wars Battlefront II uses): http://club.cdfreaks.com/f88/anydvd-...0/#post1226871

The supposed compatability option upgrade in vcddaemon never was explained properly and never worked.

No one should be using Virtual Clonedrive with game protections.

I don't overclock - I don't need to with a Core i7 and an ATI 4830

I don't really know where to begin with this comment. Lots of people overclock 4830 because it's only on par with a 9800GT. For GPU intensive games, such as Crysis, running at 1920x1200 with high settings, 25 fps doesn't really cut it. And tons of people overclock Core i7s. If you don't need to overclock for the games you run, that's fine. But for those of us that do (your framerates in most games will be significantly lower than mine, and I'm not even using a Core i7 yet) what I wrote matters.

[profcolli]

Originally Posted by Webslinger

I didn't miss that at all. GJ disables Anydvd automatically when profiles are run.

No one should be using Virtual Clonedrive with game protections.

I don't really know where to begin with this comment. Lots of people overclock 4830 because it's only on par with a 9800GT. For GPU intensive games, such as Crysis, running at 1920x1200 with high settings, 25 fps doesn't really cut it. And tons of people overclock Core i7s. If you don't need to overclock for the games you run, that's fine. But for those of us that do (your framerates in most games will be significantly lower than mine, and I'm not using a Core i7 yet) what I wrote matters.

GJ and AnyDvd were not co-existing properly on my system, which was why Matthew and I had an extensive test run - unfortunately, it was not successful in the final analysis.

VCD is supposed to be able to work with 3rd party apps, so it can call them when game protections are involved. As I stated, this has not been successful. Securom was no doubt the problem.

I don't play those kind of games, so it is a moot point. I was just letting you know that overclocking was not the issue on my system (based on your quoted thread, which assumed o/c might be an issue).

[Webslinger]

Originally Posted by profcolli

GJ and AnyDvd were not co-existing properly on my system, which was why Matthew and I had an extensive test run - unfortunately, it was not successful in the final analysis.

It seems to me that you may very well be encountering an old Securom bug: http://club.cdfreaks.com/f88/anydvd-...0/#post1226871 (scroll up to the first post in that thread)

There's nothing matthew is going to be able to do about that. That's not GJ's fault. There's nothing Anydvd can do about that either. It's a bug in that specific version of Securom. By the way, at least one other protection has also stupidly targeted Anydvd in the past.

I do own Star Wars Battlefront II, but I'm not going to install it just to test this Anydvd compatibility issue (I would have to search all over the place, just to find it; my g/f probably packed it away somewhere).

It's possible a game patch update exists that fixes the Securom/Anydvd bug.

VCD is supposed to be able to work with 3rd party apps, so it can call them when game protections are involved. As I stated, this has not been successful.

Well at the risk of offending James, anyone running VCD with games is living in a dreamworld. I wouldn't even bother with hider apps (and as you noted, I doubt they'll work well anyway, especially with VCD, as protections are updated). I always disable virtual drives before playing games.

I don't play those kind of games, so it is a moot point. I was just letting you know that overclocking was not the issue on my system (based on your quoted thread, which assumed o/c might be an issue).

Fair enough

[profcolli]

Originally Posted by Webslinger

It seems to me that you may very well be encountering an old Securom bug: http://club.cdfreaks.com/f88/anydvd-...0/#post1226871

There's nothing matthew is going to be able to do about that. That's not GJ's fault. There's nothing Anydvd can do about that either. It's a bug in Securom.

Yes, that was the conclusion we came to, and why I went back to using Alcohol instead of VCD (whcih is kind of where this thread started)

I do own Star Wars Battlefront II, but I'm not going to install it just to test this issue (I would have to search all over the place, just to find it).

Don't bother - if you read the GJ thread, you will see that it will not work with AnyDvd HD running. Mind you, it is a fun game, and my kids love it

Well at the risk of offending James, anyone running VCD with games is living in a dreamworld. I wouldn't even bother with hider apps (and as you noted, I doubt they'll work well anyway as protections are updated). I always disable virtual drives before playing games.

LOL, nobody wants to offend James! However, he never explained how to use the vcddaemon 3rd party app. call, even after repeated requests in the VCD forum. My guess is that it is because it doesn't actually work (I tried every combination possible to get it to work with CureRom, but it would only work with the original disk). Once I worked out how to get sptd to work on my Core i7 build (see above posts) I just went back to mounting the image with Alcohol and running CureRom - keeps the original safe from the grubby little hands of my kids

[Webslinger]

Originally Posted by profcolli

Yes, that was the conclusion we came to, and why I went back to using Alcohol instead of VCD (whcih is kind of where this thread started)

Try this:

1) Exit Anydvd; Disable all Virtual drives; exit all third party hider applications

2) Create profile with Game Jackal

3) Make sure game works with Anydvd exited. Exit profile and game.

4) Make sure profile works with Anydvd exited.

5) Run Anydvd

6) Now try running your profile

Game Jackal disables Anydvd automatically when running profiles. In theory, what I just wrote might work.

However, he never explained how to use the vcddaemon 3rd party app. call

I honestly don't know. I don't use VCD for anything other than testing Blu-ray .iso rips with Cybersuck's . . . errr Cyberlink's Powerdvd.

I've actually uninstalled Alcohol 120%. The games I play don't require it. But whatever works best for you is cool with me. Game Jackal works fine for me (mostly).

[profcolli]

Originally Posted by Webslinger

Try this:

1) Exit Anydvd

2) Create profile with Game Jackal

3) Make sure profile works with Anydvd exited. Exit profile and game.

4) Run Anydvd

5) Now try running your profile

Game Jackal disables Anydvd automatically when running profiles. In theory, what I just wrote might work.

Been there, done that. Didn't work (unfortunately). However, that was several versions back. Quite frankly, as this is the only game I had an issue with because of my new Core i7 build and sptd, and the XD fix was enough to get sptd running, this is no longer an issue for me. I own every other Slysoft and Elby product, but never bought GJ because it was not needed until the sptd problem, which is now resolved. My kids only use a few games, all of which work now.

I honestly don't know. I don't use VCD for anything other than testing Blu-ray .iso rips with Cybersuck's . . . errr Cyberlink's Powerdvd.

I've actually uninstalled Alcohol 120%. The games I play don't require it. But whatever works best for you is cool with me. Game Jackal works fine for me (mostly).

When they get older, maybe I will need GJ (or they can get a job and pay for what they scratch). VCD is a must have for my HTPC, and as it coexists happily with sptd and my rip speeds are good, I'm a happy camper.

Thanks for your input, Webslinger.

[Goris]

Originally Posted by profcolli

Using the tool is not sufficient. You need to use autoruns and eradicate sptd from the currentcontrolset and from legacy drivers. Google is your friend

Thanks for the tip profcolii,

I'm going to try this for the 5121xxxx'th time. Do you need to do the steps you explained PRIOR to the uninstall of AFTER ?

Thanks a lot !

[003]

Originally Posted by profcolli

You can disable it at system startup as andy_o suggested using autoruns http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb963902.aspx, but I have found no difference. YMMV. I used MediaCodeSpeed Edit to remove the LG riplock which apparently helps even BluRay rip speeds to improve (check the 3rd party software forum). I need alcohol to mount my game images for curerom - I use VCD for my BD mounts. Both co-exist with no problem (although it took me a long time to figure this out). Also see DrinkLyeandDie's post above.

This was a different issue that caused random BSOD's with SPTD installed on my Asus P6T (non-deluxe) MB. Disabling the ED bit was the only way for me to get it to work properly with SPTD installed. Core i7 Execute Disable Bit is disabled in BIOS and /nopae and /noexecute=alwaysoff in boot.ini (this was necessary to get DaemonTools and SPTD to install and run without BSOD).

Cool thanks for clarifying. I will look into all of this after work.

[profcolli]

Originally Posted by Goris

Thanks for the tip profcolii,

I'm going to try this for the 5121xxxx'th time. Do you need to do the steps you explained PRIOR to the uninstall of AFTER ?

Thanks a lot !

After the uninstall, because it does NOT remove legacy drivers.

1. Uninstall using the sptd removal tool.
2. Use autoruns (or regedit) to remove sptd from HKLM\System\currentcontrolset\services (if it refuses to remove it you may have to use regedit and expand all branches of the sptd key, right click on permissions and give full control from the bottom branch to the top branch of the key, deleting each as you go back up the tree).
3. Go into system device manager, click View, click Show hidden devices, and remove sptd from legacy drivers (non-plug and play drivers).

This is for Win XP SP3.

Create a system restore point and back up your registry first, or you may not be able to restart your system. This is for experienced users only.