Stranger Than Fiction

[rolling56]

Originally Posted by stealth_mf

I backed up Stranger Than Fiction and Saw3 easily using Shrink 3.2. Just by following the instructions in the sticky. Right click ANYDVD icon and select rip video to harddisk.

Or just drag it out of Exploder to Desktop But it still doesn't do a good of a job as CloneDVD2.

[G-Omaha]

Originally Posted by rolling56

Well instead of using FREE stuff maybe it's time you paid for a good program (CloneDVD2 maybe) and rip it with that and then run Shrink

I believe that you didn't read my initial post as I did indicate that I have purchased that product, as well as most of the other stuff sold by SlySoft. I also indicated that Shrink will not run on the "Stuff" generated by Clone.

I have very few "free" stuff that I use, and limit these to those choice pieces of software that are "Priceless"....

Quality - not price is the goal. Now speed is the seconday goal as Ripit4Me + Associated utilities (including Shrink) will provide the quality; however, takes a long time to execute.

[Clams]

The problem remains the same as it has since SAW-3.

As I understand it, from reading other boards and my own experience, Sony has introduced an overwhelming amount of unreferenced titles and/or bogus title sets to the DVDs, all in the name of COPY PROTECTION. Once AnyDVD has done what it deems to be "it's job"... this newer form of COPY PROTECTION remains. The result is that Shrink still horks up a lung when it sees these new DVD's, and Nero Recode *almost* fails with them as well.
In the mean time DVDFab (the free version) takes about 45 seconds to sort it all out, and present a breakdown of the "real" DVD to the end-user to rip as he sees fit, and this MINUS all the bogus titles. <sigh>

I remain hopefull that AnyDVD will soon sort this out. The more cynical amongst us, are *sure* this won't be sorted out until the targeted amounts of CloneDVD2 are sold. <sigh>

-W

[rolling56]

Originally Posted by G-Omaha

I believe that you didn't read my initial post as I did indicate that I have purchased that product, as well as most of the other stuff sold by SlySoft. I also indicated that Shrink will not run on the "Stuff" generated by Clone.

I have very few "free" stuff that I use, and limit these to those choice pieces of software that are "Priceless"....

Quality - not price is the goal. Now speed is the seconday goal as Ripit4Me + Associated utilities (including Shrink) will provide the quality; however, takes a long time to execute.

Well your post count is higher than mine so i guess you know it all.

I had no problems with AnyDVD 6.1.2.5 and CloneDVD2 2.9.0.3 R-1 WS!!!!!

If it doesn't work with the programs you used maybe you need a disc replacement

Maybe what i suggested hasn't sunk in your head either............

[stealth_mf]

Originally Posted by G-Omaha

Did you do this for the entire disk or just the main movie??

Just the main movie. This is all I truly want. Occasionally Ill record deleted scenes or such. What are you trying to get?

[rolling56]

There's so many problems with this title i've read. I guess there's a lot of bad originals?
I've seen posts where they don't even play! Maybe they have Autorun on

[Whisperer]

Ok, we know that Shrink can't handle new structural protections correct? But many like Shrink for it's "deep analysis" superior compression quality. Understandable right? But Slysoft can't continue divert resources to be responsible for supporting orphan software that is not updated? Understandable right? AnyDVD's main purpose is to decrypt CSS encryptions and they have no intention of "bloating" it up to include full ripping functions. It is a tiny driver, not a ripping program. The ability to unscramble purposely authored, messed up titleset structural protections is dealing with a different form of protection than CSS decryption. Unscrabbling structural protections is the job of the ripping program. But Shrink users have a cult-love for their product and want to keep using their beloved Shrink without being chastized for their desires. All true facts and valid opinions, right?

So both sides accept the issues as they are and use the tools that you do have at your disposal to get the job done. No more fighting kids!!

I would like to know if everyone is on the same page here. Since Shrink can't rip it and CloneDVD can, have we all tried using CloneDVD to deselect the undesired elements off of the original and then ripping an ISO Image with CloneDVD2 set to "DL +/-R" mode and then using Shrink to process that ISO and compress it to a SL disk?

Now for my (.02) opinion, why are all you guys compressing? That is so five years ago! DVD media, both SL and DL is so cheap now, why don't you just split your DVD's onto two SL disks or burn your backups onto DL media?

Best regards,
Whisperer

[rolling56]

Originally Posted by Whisperer

Ok, we know that Shrink can't handle new structural protections correct? But many like Shrink for it's "deep analysis" superior compression quality. Understandable right? But Slysoft can't continue divert resources to be responsible for supporting orphan software that is not updated? Understandable right? AnyDVD's main purpose is to decrypt CSS encryptions and they have no intention of "bloating" it up to include full ripping functions. It is a tiny driver, not a ripping program. The ability to unscramble purposely authored, messed up titleset structural protections is dealing with a different form of protection than CSS decryption. Unscrabbling sturctural protections is the job of the ripping program. But Shrink users have a cult-love for their product and want to keep using their beloved Shrink without being chastized for their desires. All true facts and valid opinions, right?

So both sides accept the issues as they are and use the tools that you do have at your disposal to get the job done. No more fighting kids!!

I would like to know if everyone is on the same page here. Since Shrink can't rip it and CloneDVD can, have we all tried ripping an ISO Image with CloneDVD2 set to DL +/-R and then used Shrink to process that ISO and compress it to a SL disk?

Now for my (.02) opinion, why are all you guys compressing? That is so five years ago! DVD media, both SL and DL is so cheap now, why don't you just split or burn to DL media?

Best regards,
Whisperer

Hi Whisperer
That's all fine and dandy.
If you only copy the movie only you will get 100% on a dvd-5 disc

[Webslinger]

Originally Posted by G-Omaha

I believe that you didn't read my initial post as I did indicate that I have purchased that product, as well as most of the other stuff sold by SlySoft. I also indicated that Shrink will not run on the "Stuff" generated by Clone.

It does for Saw3.

[Whisperer]

Originally Posted by rolling56

If you only copy the movie only you will get 100% on a dvd-5 disc

I appreciate your point ... that removing extras and tracks will make a backup of a smaller size. But few releases, even "movie only" will really fit down to 4.38 GB in size and still be 100% uncompressed. Most movies are larger in data size.

Also, (again appreciating your way of doing it), I don't want to remove anything. I love DTS sound on my home system, but want to keep Dolby too so it plays in my Saturn Outlook. And I want the Director's Commentary included. I hate & don't watch all the previews of coming attractions but my girlfriend likes them on the backups. So I do my backups 1:1. Point being everyone wants different things from their backups.

Including Shrink and CloneDVD lovers who what to compress their backups onto one disk.

There is no right or wrong method ... or bad way or good way. And there is no single "best and only" program capable of doing everything. God bless freedom of choice.