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Old 3rd January 2009, 15:33
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Thanks for the response

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If you're using Anydvd at the exact same time on three different systems, then you should buy three licenses. The customer is kind of abusing Slysoft's generosity otherwise.
I don't disagree. I'd gladly pay SlySoft an extra (nominal) fee for extra licenses within my own household, but paying full price for 3 licenses is just too much.
In my business, we use software that has concurrent user limits and total user limits. So, one program may allow for 50 total users, but only 10 of those people can be using the software at the same time. If SlySoft were to offer, say, a license that allows for 5 total users, but only 2 concurrent, I'd be more than happy

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I believe Slysoft's licensing should be viewed as a single user license; that is, it's pretty hard for a single user to be at three different computers simultaneously watching 3 different dvds simultaneously.
I agree, but I don't. I'm of the opinion that a "single user license" should be restricted to a household. This may be a bad analogy, but let's say I buy the new Rush CD. The first thing I'll do is put the songs on my computer, then onto my ipod. Well, let's assume my fiance is also a big fan of Rush (she's not...), and she wants to listen to the album when she's at work. I don't think she should have to buy another copy of the CD, just in case we happen to be listening to same song at the same time. Universal Music's EULA will completely disagree with me, but unofficially, they probably couldn't care less.

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The installation base isn't a problem (installing on 3 computers). However, running the program at the exact same time on multiple computers is a problem; that does not only violate Slysoft's EULA--but also, and more importantly, Slysoft's intent.
yeah. That's why, for now, I'm sticking to SlySoft's EULA. I'm 100% happy with the product thus far, and I'm not going to jeopardize that.

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I'll let Slysoft employees answer that.
fair enough I guess, if a SlySoft employee is reading this, let me put it this way:
Let's say I go ahead and install AnyDVD HD on all three of my computers using one license key (already violating the EULA, but...). I set them all to start when Windows boots (to avoid confusion for family members). Now, although the program is constantly running on all three computers, 99% of the time, only one of them may actually be used at any given time (running = idly waiting for a disc/image, used = actively decrypting a disc/image). But, on a random day, somehow, all three copies are used at the same time (for a better example: child watching a movie on the HTPC, wife on the Desktop, me on the laptop). How will SlySoft react, seeing one key used on three machines at the same time?


BTW, thanks for your reply Webslinger. I assure you I'm not trying to start any sort of fight. I'm just trying to get an idea for how SlySoft may interpret their own EULA. I'm not going to violate it, as I'm really just asking these questions to know how I can use the software to my needs without offending the insanely hard-working people at SlySoft. Their amazing efforts come before my own personal convenience.
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Old 4th January 2009, 00:59
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However, running the program at the exact same time on multiple computers is a problem; that does not only violate Slysoft's EULA--but also, and more importantly, Slysoft's intent.
Which is WHY you turn Autostart OFF - and RUN the software only as you NEED to on a single machine.

-W (has it installed on all machines, but used one at a time.)
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Old 4th January 2009, 02:59
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IMHO, the answers given by multiple Slysoft employees in the forums at one time or another are contradictory and confusing. The stance taken as posted in the forums is arbitrary which, honestly, I don't feel is in the best interest of anyone. A clearcut answer is necessary.

I, based on the information I had read in the forums, used to advise that people could install on multiple systems so long as they did not run the software on multiple systems at the same time. I was corrected for saying this even though I was doing nothing more than giving the same answer that an employee had once given. To say the least this left me confused.

I have changed my opinion on the matter. My personal stance is that the EULA states things in black and white. I do not recommend or advise people install the software on more than one system. If you run it on more than one system and run it at the same time then you just might end up with your keys blacklisted. You didn't follow the EULA and you'll have to deal with Slysoft Support if this occurs. In short, I'm taking zero responsibility for people breaking the EULA and any possible consequences resulting from it.
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Old 5th January 2009, 15:34
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fair enough I guess, if a SlySoft employee is reading this, let me put it this way:
Let's say I go ahead and install AnyDVD HD on all three of my computers using one license key (already violating the EULA, but...). I set them all to start when Windows boots (to avoid confusion for family members). Now, although the program is constantly running on all three computers, 99% of the time, only one of them may actually be used at any given time (running = idly waiting for a disc/image, used = actively decrypting a disc/image). But, on a random day, somehow, all three copies are used at the same time (for a better example: child watching a movie on the HTPC, wife on the Desktop, me on the laptop). How will SlySoft react, seeing one key used on three machines at the same time?

Our EULA leave room for interpretation, we know, but violating them on purpose is outrageous.

So, let's say you are booting three different systems which don't even belong to you and AnyDVD is running on all three of them at the same time and you know that you are violating our EULA by doing so and still have the chuzpah to ask what we will do about it if you get caught?

Let me be quite frank here: we are not Big Brother, we don't know what you are doing with your license. However, if we happen to know something unusual (e.g. somebody attracts our attention by asking weird questions about license abuse and EULA violation in our forum) we start investigating. Chances are that the suspect will get caught red-handed and then end up with his/her license(s) being blacklisted.

Thank you for arousing sleeping dogs.
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Old 5th January 2009, 20:14
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Our EULA leave room for interpretation, we know, but violating them on purpose is outrageous.
...which is why I still only have AnyDVD HD installed on one computer (scout's honor!)

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So, let's say you are booting three different systems which don't even belong to you and AnyDVD is running on all three of them at the same time and you know that you are violating our EULA by doing so and still have the chuzpah to ask what we will do about it if you get caught?
In my case, all three computers belong to me and are, 99% of the time, all located in my own house (the only exception is the laptop which I currently take on business trips).

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Let me be quite frank here: we are not Big Brother, we don't know what you are doing with your license. However, if we happen to know something unusual (e.g. somebody attracts our attention by asking weird questions about license abuse and EULA violation in our forum) we start investigating. Chances are that the suspect will get caught red-handed and then end up with his/her license(s) being blacklisted.

Thank you for arousing sleeping dogs.
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I don't think my own questions are "weird". As mentioned in my previous post, the hard work of SlySoft far outweighs my own desire for convenience. One license for one computer. That's what I'm currently doing, and that's not going to change.
If I may suggest, though...
I'd be interested in a license agreement that offers multiple 'concurrent' licenses for a discounted price (ie: One license + 10euros per concurrent user, maximum of 3). Since that doesn't exist, I'll stick with what I've got.
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Old 6th January 2009, 06:21
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If I may suggest, though...
I'd be interested in a license agreement that offers multiple 'concurrent' licenses for a discounted price (ie: One license + 10euros per concurrent user, maximum of 3). Since that doesn't exist, I'll stick with what I've got.
Thank you for this suggestion, we added that idea to our wish list and might eventually pick it up at a later date.
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