BD Rebuilder v0.20.04 (beta) Out

[Hawk]

- Corrected an error in which timing adjustments on
certain files may not have the PTS updated
correctly on LPCM streams.
- Added an option to SETUP to keep HD audio streams
intact (for BD25 encoding only).
- Extended the timeout of the beta. Since I haven't
had a lot of spare time lately, I want to make
sure the program doesn't timeout for anyone between
version releases. The timeout is NOT meant to limit
use but instead to keep me from having to readdress
the same bugs over-and-over.
- Made several changes to accommodate naming
convention in newer versions of TSMUXER.
- Updated X264 to version r1130. Includes several
speed improvements.
- Fixed an error related to pass reporting on certain
types of encodes.
- Reduced the default target size for BD-25. The new
setting of 24450 was too large for BD-RB (which has
a limit of 23098 MB).
- Added setting of the CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE as an option
in the SETUP dialog.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[fast eddie]

I don't believe timeout on the beta versions is a good thing.

Especially if JDOBBS (author) is using the DVD fans as free beta testors. There is no need to have any time frame on the beta versions.

When the beta versions are complete and most of the bugs have been removed, then it will become stable versions and be PAYWARE, and thats when the timeout comes into play, not when the program is in the beta stage.

Just another reason I don't like JDOBBS products, also his same rational on standard definitions products.

Just another reason Slysoft needs CloneBD (or what-ever its name will be) up and running as soon as possible and have the same expertise as AnyDVD HD has for a winning product and in high demand.


BD Rebuilder V0.20.05 is out

[DrinkLyeAndDie]

Timeouts are a good thing. If the author finds that time for working on a project is lacking they can release a new build with an extended timeout period and I've seen this done before.

The reason I consider timeouts to be good is very simple. Many people are lazy and don't always check to see if they are using the latest version. These people may continue to post about known bugs with an older version when they should have updated to a new version already. The timeout gets people off their butt and forces them to update to get the project further through the beta testing process.

To prove my point about people not running the latest version just look at how often we have to tell people to update to the latest version of AnyDVD/AnyDVD HD in these forums and we're talking about an established program that people pay for and they are getting free updates unless their subscription/license has expired.

[damnskippy]

I agree with you both LOL. Timeouts are fine but using the community as your beta testers of a product they are going to have to pay for without telling them and adding a timeout so they can not continue to use the betas they tested for you pretty much sucks.

Now if that is the case and he did tell people then no problem.

[DrinkLyeAndDie]

Originally Posted by damnskippy

I agree with you both LOL. Timeouts are fine but using the community as your beta testers of a product they are going to have to pay for without telling them and adding a timeout so they can not continue to use the betas they tested for you pretty much sucks.

Now if that is the case and he did tell people then no problem.

Considering DVD Rebuilder has free and shareware versions I consider anyone who expects the finished product to simply be free to be amazingly naive. I'm not claiming to know what jdobbs plans but I'm also not expecting something on a silver platter. I wouldn't be surprised nor would I feel bad about being a tester if jdobbs goes a route where the program is shareware. If he also offers a freeware but less functional version that's fine, too.

It's funny to sometimes see people get huffy because they were unknowing beta testers only to have the finished product cost money. Now, if the developer announced it was a beta program that was only open to a limited number of people and the finished product would be a shareware program you would see people clambering over each other to be one of those testers. In this case people should know they are beta testers because the product is... um, beta. Funny how people can be sometimes all based upon the wording of things.

[Cmnore]

Where can we DL the file?

[DrinkLyeAndDie]

Originally Posted by Cmnore

Where can we DL the file?

The official discussion is over at doom9.org.

[fast eddie]

@drinklyeanddie

Here are a few more reasons why I dislike JDOOBS and his products and why his only concern for being in the DVD business is greed and the love of money.

1. At his website the standard definition freeware version of DVD rebuilder last update was December 15, 2006.

2. He is not capable of keeping the standard default encoder HC up to date in his freeware version.

3. He seems to have plenty of time to update the payware versions quite often.

4. I have personally updated DVD rebuilder to remove the outdated HC encoder and replace with the latest versions 4 times.

5. In the hay days of standard definition back-up using DVD rebuilder, TMPGEnc Plus, DVD shrink, IFO edit, HC encoder, his products always took the longest time to encode, and no better picture quality than the other encoders.

6 On the high definition side BD rebuilder has options that are counter productive to encoding speed, and useless.

7. There is no common sence flow to any of his products.


The only positive thing I can say for him is he is know for high compression of a standard definition movie and put it on a DVD-5 with a good quality picture and the testing of numerous standard definition encoders.

[MBK]

Originally Posted by fast eddie

@drinklyeanddie

Here are a few more reasons why I dislike JDOOBS and his products and why his only concern for being in the DVD business is greed and the love of money.

1. At his website the standard definition freeware version of DVD rebuilder last update was December 15, 2006.

2. He is not capable of keeping the standard default encoder HC up to date in his freeware version.

3. He seems to have plenty of time to update the payware versions quite often.

4. I have personally updated DVD rebuilder to remove the outdated HC encoder and replace with the latest versions 4 times.

5. In the hay days of standard definition back-up using DVD rebuilder, TMPGEnc Plus, DVD shrink, IFO edit, HC encoder, his products always took the longest time to encode, and no better picture quality than the other encoders.

6 On the high definition side BD rebuilder has options that are counter productive to encoding speed, and useless.

7. There is no common sence flow to any of his products.


The only positive thing I can say for him is he is know for high compression of a standard definition movie and put it on a DVD-5 with a good quality picture and the testing of numerous standard definition encoders.

If you feel you can ofer a better product to the community for free, by all means I'll be waiting to see what you produce.

Atleast he does offer a free version, which has been enjoyed by thousands and thousands who have never, ever needed to put a dime into JD's pockets for his time.

And what's so wrong about creating a better vversion of DVDrebuilder just for those who have actually 'DONATED' living expenses to help him out??
He has to work a full time job to make a real living, he could have very easily never offered a free version and simply created a commercial version... then he might actually not need to have a job.

So many guys like you make use of his freeware, never even offer a penny of donation, then gripe about him not updating the HCEnc version to his free version, which you yourself can esily do as you pointed out. Why is he obligated to update anything for you when you haven't done shiet for him?

As for the 'transcoders', editors, you mentioned... why not use those if you feel DVDRebuilder can't output a better quality end result?

And as for the different encoding settings, x264 is pretty awesome even down to BD-9, and until the price of BD-25s or BD-50s comes down, a BD-9 is a great alternative to make my back-ups to. PQ is incredible..... makes a hell of a lot of sense to me.
BD-5, not so much...