Aditional steps required to decrypt some DVDs

[Mocorongo]

Sorry if this is the wrong forum (or if it's old news for most of you), but I feel I need to warn you about some particular DVDs that will require this aditional step in order to be fully decrypted.

AnyDVD or even other softwares like DVDFab will not decrypt the entire disc alone. So far I have only saw one (perhaps two) titles with this issue, but if you do a Google search you will find people arguing the same "region marking" thing - When Harry Met Sally (confirmed) and Street Fighter/1994 movie (old edition, not 100% confirmed), both from R4/Brazil.

This is the original thread:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143764

And this is the tutorial I translated, based on other one I saw in my language:

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/758910

After following the procedures above (from the Afterdawn link), I was able to decrypt this disc without seeing the warning "This Player Is Incompatible With Region Marking Of This Disk".

[Webslinger]

It's entirely possible that Anydvd is doing something wrong, but you're also pointing to links using old versions of Anydvd. And you may be doing something wrong as well.

1. What is the UPC number for these discs?

2. Use Anydvd 6.5.4.4: click http://static.slysoft.com/SetupAnyDVD.exe
(If you don't own Anydvd, you can try the program for free for 21 days).


You may need to reboot after installing if prompted to do so.

3. Click the red fox icon on your toolbar. Click "default". Click "ok".

4. Set the default Region in Anydvd to match the Region on this disc.


5. Right-click on the fox icon on your toolbar, and select "Rip video-dvd to Hard Disk". Choose your source and destination paths. Click "Copy", and wait for Anydvd ripper to finish.

6. Run a dvd playback software program. Select the "video_ts.ifo" file as the source file for playback. Any problems?

If so . . . .


A. Remove packet writing software from your system, including Roxio's Directcd, Nero's Incd, Roxio/Sonic's DragtoDisc, Drive Letter Access, CyberLink InstantBurn, NTI's Filecd, etc. click http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=15536 and read fully

B. Check to see if there's an updated firmware version for your burner and your reader; see this example for instructions.

C. Set your drive's region code if it's not set already. With some dvds and some drives, Anydvd cannot decrypt CSS unless your drive's region code is set properly. You must exit Anydvd when checking.

1. Right click the fox on your toolbar. Exit Anydvd
2. Click start. Right click on "My computer"--->select "properties".
3. Click on the 'Hardware' tab--->click the 'device manager' button.
4. Open the dvd/cdrom branch---> right click on your optical drive
5. Click "properties".
6. You should have a region tab. From there you can select a region.
7. Select the region that you're in
8. Start Anydvd

D. Set the default Region in Anydvd to match the Region on this disc.

E. Post an Anydvd .zip log file

i) Ensure Anydvd is running.
ii) Put the problematic original movie dvd in your burner. Wait for Anydvd to scan the disc.
iii) Right click the red fox icon on your toolbar.
iv) Select "Create Logfile"
v) Wait for Anydvd to create a log file.
vi) A pop-up screen will appear. Take note of the location where Anydvd created the logfile and the logfile's name. Click "ok".
vii) Windows Explorer will open, and you will see a zip file called "Anydvd_Info_titleofmydisc.zip" (or something similar; see step f)
viii) When replying or posting in the Slysoft forums, look for the icon that looks like (in other words, look for the paperclip after clicking "quote" or when creating a new thread)
ix) If you don't see that paperclip icon, click the "go advanced" button. You should see that icon now. Click the paperclip.
x) A small pop-up screen should appear (if it doesn't please ensure your browser is enabled to allow pop-ups from the Slysoft forums)
xi) Click the "Browse" button, and locate and select the .zip file you created.
xii) click "upload"
xii) Close the window. When you submit reply, or submit a new thread, the .zip file will be attached automatically for us to take a look at


F. State the a)full error message(s) you encountered (click "details"), b)tell us what program(s) you were using when you received the error message(s), and c) describe in detail what you were doing when you received the error message(s). What problem are you having exactly?

[Mocorongo]

Web,
like was said on that guide, I believe the reason behind that screen "THIS PLAYER IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH REGION MARKING OF THIS DISK" after decrypting the disk using AnyDVD (or any other message, this has nothing to do with the disc region, it's a random warning) is related to the fact there are blank sectors in the middle of the disc, and there is a command embedded in the original authoring forcing the disc to search for those sectors before you start the decrypted DVD.

Home recorders and common DVD players do not understand those blank sectors and while you are doing a copy they mix the data and eliminate those spaces. A very simple routine inside the IFO files look for those "spaces" and when they are not found, you will get that warning, stating it's a copy from a movie or game, or "incompatible region".

Bottom line is: AnyDVD and DVDFab were able to decrypt the "When Harry Met Sally" disc, but everytime I tried to access the decrypted files I was receiving this warning. No matter where I tried (my harddrive, my DVD player...). You can even see the root/audio/subtitles menu, but once you tried to start the movie, you will fail, and see that warning.



From what I can see, AnyDVD/DVDFab alone can't modify the IFO files from these kinds of discs to make them understand there's no need to go to that warning cell. That's when PgcEdit was required to finish the job.

I saw some people stating the same thing for a few discs and in all my entire life, after analysing hundreds of different DVDs, it was the first time I saw such thing...

Regarding the Street Fighter (1994 movie, old edition) issue, perhaps it was the same case as I stated on the Doom9 thread, but I managed to make it work somehow.

DVDFab crashed when tried to open the disc everytime. Period.

AnyDVD tried to decrypt the disc to my HDD, but failed, since it was plagued with these side effects:

1) The original DVD had one animation with the Columbia logo right from the start. After that, you are presented with the english menu/options (that's right, the menu was not translated, something not unusual at this time).

2) The decrypted files (with help from AnyDVD/DVD Shrink (which last version was from 2005) are different.

* No Columbia logo/animation. One japanese video with some text written. I believe this japanese text is somehow related to the "THIS PLAYER IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH REGION MARKING OF THIS DISK" issue. But I can't say for sure.

* Next to that, you will only see the japanese menu/options.

2) The original DVD when played with AnyDVD's help, was letting you switch the audio/subtitle tracks in the middle of the movie. The decrypted files (on my HDD) were not letting you do that while you are watching the movie.

That means the movie was running on the decrypted files. That's a BIG DIFFERENCE because the decrypted "When Harry Met Sally" files were not letting me do that - no movie being played at all!

Then, while AnyDVD was open, I did a copy-paste on the VIDEO_TS directory from the original SF disc to my Hard drive. Just like that - a single copy-paste!

After 15 minutes, I tested the files.

They were exactly like the original DVD. Columbia logo/animation, switch between audio/subtitle tracks in the middle of the movie...

Problem solved, and this time with one unusual method. Instead of telling AnyDVD to decrypt the disc, just keep AnyDVD open and do a direct copy from the disc files in the meantime.

Answering some questions:

Check to see if there's an updated firmware version for your burner and your reader; see this example for instructions.

I haven't checked, but this is my drive:

LG GGW-H20L - Blu-ray recorder - it was purchased last year from Newegg. I never update any of my devices firmware...

My info:
HL-DT-ST BD-REGGW-H20L YL02 050110081683CJ0537

Set your drive's region code if it's not set already. With some dvds and some drives, Anydvd cannot decrypt CSS unless your drive's region code is set properly. You must exit Anydvd when checking.

I am sure at the time I tested those 2 discs, the region code wasn't even set for the first time in my drive, so the change counter wasn't activated.

Later, I changed for the first time to region 4, after doing a mistake and letting one of my original discs to be played with autorun (PowerDVD started the same while AnyDVD was disabled), so 4 changes are remaining (see picture bellow), but I strongly believe the drive wasn't modified to any region at all the time I tested those 2 discs - that means the drive was exactly like the factory settings! Drives from factory settings = no region set.


4 changes remaining, set to region 4 after my own mistake of letting one DVD started without AnyDVD enabled.

It wasn't necessary to do that since AnyDVD was not letting the change-region-counter from my drive to work.

I have some R1/R4 discs and I use them many times, if wasn't for AnyDVD, I would not have any choice, since the drive was going to need more than 5 changes (R4 > R1 > R4 > R1 and etc.).

I also believed the "Standard region" from AnyDVD (see picture bellow) was useless in this matter, no matter what kind of disc you insert in the drive (R1 or R4), since AnyDVD itself was blocking the change-region-counter from working. So even if I was inserting one Region 4 disc, and the "Standard region" was set to R1, it won't matter for AnyDVD. Unless you are saying the "Standard region" is related to the LG drive current setting. But then again, does it matter?



Please read this thread:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/f116/additi...me-dvds-273204

[Webslinger]

Originally Posted by Mocorongo

is related to the fact there are blank sectors in the middle of the disc

That's fine. Provide an Anydvd log .zip and go through the steps, answer and providing information for everything that I requested. If there is a problem, it needs to be addressed.

I never update any of my devices firmware...

Since there appears to be a potential issue in this case, it would be a good idea to rule out potential problems.

HL-DT-ST BD-REGGW-H20L YL02 050110081683CJ0537

I'm a little busy right now to be checking for firmware updates for you, but I've already provided the information for you to check yourself:


For LG burners, visit http://www.lge.com/support/software.jsp
a) select your location at the top
b) select dvd-rom (writer) link
c) scroll through or search the various pages until you find your burner

Your firmware version is definitely outdated.

I am sure at the time I tested those 2 discs, the region code wasn't even set for the first time in my drive, so the change counter wasn't activated.

As I stated earlier, Anydvd may not decrypt CSS properly unless your drive's region code is set. You must exit Anydvd when checking.

Drives from factory settings = no region set.

Yeah, that's bad. It needs to be set.

But then again, does it matter?

That matters for RCE protection. And this disc may involve an RCE issue . . .
So, yes that matters. Set the default region in Anydvd to match the region of the disc.




If you want to go through the steps I listed in addition to providing log files, then I can pass the information onto a developer (who is in a position to fix the problem). Typically no anydvd log file = ignored thread/we don't care

So once again . . .


1. What is the UPC number for these discs?

2. Use Anydvd 6.5.4.4: click http://static.slysoft.com/SetupAnyDVD.exe
(If you don't own Anydvd, you can try the program for free for 21 days).


You may need to reboot after installing if prompted to do so.

3. Click the red fox icon on your toolbar. Click "default". Click "ok".

4. Set the default Region in Anydvd to match the Region on this disc.


5. Right-click on the fox icon on your toolbar, and select "Rip video-dvd to Hard Disk". Choose your source and destination paths. Click "Copy", and wait for Anydvd ripper to finish.

6. Run a dvd playback software program. Select the "video_ts.ifo" file as the source file for playback. Any problems?

If so . . . .


A. Remove packet writing software from your system, including Roxio's Directcd, Nero's Incd, Roxio/Sonic's DragtoDisc, Drive Letter Access, CyberLink InstantBurn, NTI's Filecd, etc. click http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=15536 and read fully

B. Check to see if there's an updated firmware version for your burner and your reader; see this example for instructions.

C. Set your drive's region code if it's not set already. With some dvds and some drives, Anydvd cannot decrypt CSS unless your drive's region code is set properly. You must exit Anydvd when checking.

1. Right click the fox on your toolbar. Exit Anydvd
2. Click start. Right click on "My computer"--->select "properties".
3. Click on the 'Hardware' tab--->click the 'device manager' button.
4. Open the dvd/cdrom branch---> right click on your optical drive
5. Click "properties".
6. You should have a region tab. From there you can select a region.
7. Select the region that you're in
8. Start Anydvd

D. Set the default Region in Anydvd to match the Region on this disc.

E. Post an Anydvd .zip log file

i) Ensure Anydvd is running.
ii) Put the problematic original movie dvd in your burner. Wait for Anydvd to scan the disc.
iii) Right click the red fox icon on your toolbar.
iv) Select "Create Logfile"
v) Wait for Anydvd to create a log file.
vi) A pop-up screen will appear. Take note of the location where Anydvd created the logfile and the logfile's name. Click "ok".
vii) Windows Explorer will open, and you will see a zip file called "Anydvd_Info_titleofmydisc.zip" (or something similar; see step f)
viii) When replying or posting in the Slysoft forums, look for the icon that looks like (in other words, look for the paperclip after clicking "quote" or when creating a new thread)
ix) If you don't see that paperclip icon, click the "go advanced" button. You should see that icon now. Click the paperclip.
x) A small pop-up screen should appear (if it doesn't please ensure your browser is enabled to allow pop-ups from the Slysoft forums)
xi) Click the "Browse" button, and locate and select the .zip file you created.
xii) click "upload"
xii) Close the window. When you submit reply, or submit a new thread, the .zip file will be attached automatically for us to take a look at

[James]

Originally Posted by Mocorongo

Sorry if this is the wrong forum (or if it's old news for most of you), but I feel I need to warn you about some particular DVDs that will require this aditional step in order to be fully decrypted.

AnyDVD or even other softwares like <yuk> will not decrypt the entire disc alone.

The RCE option should take care of such things. Please post a logfile. Thank you.

[James]

Originally Posted by Mocorongo

..., but everytime I tried to access the decrypted files I was receiving this warning. No matter where I tried (my harddrive, my DVD player...). You can even see the root/audio/subtitles menu, but once you tried to start the movie, you will fail, and see that warning.

How do you access the files? Please don't tell me you play back .vob files.

[Mocorongo]

Firmware was updated, thank you!
HL-DT-ST BD-REGGW-H20L YL05 001002081683CJ0537

Once I get my hands on those two DVDs again I will follow all the rest of the procedures you stated above. Now that you explained to me we need to set a region-code I believe that was one reason why I failed in the SF case (and perhaps the other one).

@James: of course not.

I tried to open the DVD project using Media-Player Classic, Power DVD or BSPlayer PRO (the last one using one MPEG-2 decoder). Opening a couple of VOBs is not the proper way to test the decrypted files/DVD project.

It also seems MPC have some navigation issues, just like BSP, while PowerDVD (which I personally don't like to use) doesn't have them...

Regarding the CSS issue, I wonder if all my previous discs (when the LG drive was using the factory settings) were properly decrypted as well... They seemed fine while I tested them. I didn't know about that.

[Webslinger]

Originally Posted by Mocorongo

Now that you explained to me we need to set a region-code I believe that was one reason why I failed in the SF case (and perhaps the other one).

In the following screenshot, you need to select the region that matches the region on the disc:



So if the original disc is region 4, you must select region 4 in Anydvd.

[Mocorongo]

That's the second thing I never realized until today, after using AnyDVD for a very long time... since I didn't experienced any issues decrypting DVDs, I thought this didn't matter... just like the firmware upgrade (at first I thought the firmware upgrade was going to remove the "region-counter" (this is only disabled using AnyDVD), but it makes sense if there's a problem or bug in the drive that needs to be fixed, and might be affecting the rips).

Now I see that, probably some navigation issues were caused by all those wrong settings...

So you are saying if the standard region set in AnyDVD doesn't match with the DVD inserted on the drive, I will have problems as well? I'll have to pay more attention to these things...

[Webslinger]

Originally Posted by Mocorongo

So you are saying if the standard region set in AnyDVD doesn't match with the DVD inserted on the drive, I will have problems as well?

"The player is incompatible with the region marking on this disc." That's Regional Coding Enhancement protection (RCE). In order to remove the region code script, in Anydvd you must select the "Default Region" that matches the region of the disc. So if the disc is Region 4, select Region 4 in Anydvd.

The "Default Region" setting in Anydvd is for RCE protection.

However, it's still possible that Anydvd isn't handling this disc properly. Please provide Anydvd zip logfiles.