Can't ISO normally. Only Rip (Copy to Folder)

[Thor]

Hi,

I have noticed that lately, with a number of movies (not all of them), I cannot just process it as I normally would, using AnyDVD & DVD Shrink.

What I have to do, is right click on the AnyDVD HD icon and select to "Rip Video DVD to Hardisk" and then use DVD Shrink to process the movie from the folder AnyDVD HD ripped it to.

Is anyone else having this problem lately (within the last few months)? If so, how can I fix this problem?

Also, a quick question please (and yes, I know how stupid it probably is)...

When I load a movie into DVD Shrink from that folder, does AnyDVD still process the movie again if I load it from a folder? Or does it ONLY process what comes from a disc in the DVD drive (or an ISO in a virtual DVD drive)?

Yes, I know the movie in the folder was already processed by AnyDVD when I ripped it. It's just a technical question that comes from curiosity. Please answer ONLY if you're SURE of your answer.

Thank you very much folks, for your help with the issue I am having and with my question!

Dave

[Frank]

I find it a little amusing when people get error messages in OEM products and come to SlySoft for the answer. We'll help as best we can.

Most OEM burn programs or processing software will NOT support on-the-fly READ and then WRITE, especially with newer DVDs.
This means you will run into problems trying to use AnyDVD in the background with these products since they can not handle newer sector protections like CloneDVD2 can.

And as the studios gallop forward with such things these products will fall more and more behind.

Products like Shrink, 123, DVD X Copy, 1Click, Nero, and some other products will fail with (for example):
- "DVD could not be imported because the ...",
- "Disc error", "fail to read from drive...." or
" dvd shrink has encountered an error and cannot continue. Failed to read file. "
"encrypted" or
"Overlap" or
"The V_ADMAP table is corrupt", etc, etc, etc.

Things like "dvd structure appears to be corrupt, "this dvd can not be read. please try another dvd." or whatever may also appear..

This is the business-as-usual scenario when you use such programs, to mean you'll need to use the "rip video...." option on the right mouse menu on the AnyDVD tray fox and then burn from the Hard Drive and NOT the DVD.

We offer CloneDVD2 as the ideal partner product for AnyDVD as it does not have this limitation.

[Thor]

Originally Posted by Frank

I find it a little amusing when people get error messages in OEM products and come to SlySoft for the answer. We'll help as best we can.

Most OEM burn programs or processing software will NOT support on-the-fly READ and then WRITE, especially with newer DVDs.
This means you will run into problems trying to use AnyDVD in the background with these products since they can not handle newer sector protections like CloneDVD2 can.

And as the studios gallop forward with such things these products will fall more and more behind.

Products like Shrink, 123, DVD X Copy, 1Click, Nero, and some other products will fail with (for example):
- "DVD could not be imported because the ...",
- "Disc error", "fail to read from drive...." or
" dvd shrink has encountered an error and cannot continue. Failed to read file. "
"encrypted" or
"Overlap" or
"The V_ADMAP table is corrupt", etc, etc, etc.

Things like "dvd structure appears to be corrupt, "this dvd can not be read. please try another dvd." or whatever may also appear..

This is the business-as-usual scenario when you use such programs, to mean you'll need to use the "rip video...." option on the right mouse menu on the AnyDVD tray fox and then burn from the Hard Drive and NOT the DVD.

We offer CloneDVD2 as the ideal partner product for AnyDVD as it does not have this limitation.

With all due respect, that's where you're wrong. DVD Shrink has worked fine with this for years! It is only within the last few months that this has been happening and it isn't just to me.

And I'm not "burning it". I'm not "reading and writing to a DVD on the fly". I create an ISO and then burn that with ImgBurn without AnyDVD loaded.

The problem is, it won't even start to read the disk. DVD Shrink processes the movie (reads it in) before it does anything with it and that's where it gets stuck. It won't even read it in.

Frankly, I tried your other product and I did not like it. It does not have the option to start and end the movie where I want it to. I have to take the whol movie, 8 miles of credits and all. I even wrote to you guys about adding that option to be able to edit the start and stop points. Has this been done yet, by any chance?

AnyDVD, like any other decrypter, should be able to work with other programs. If it can't, then that should be said up front. There are others, so why would I get one that requires me to spend almost double the money? And why doesn't the purchase page say that you need CloneDVD2?

But as I said, I have been using AnyDVD with DVD Shrink for long time and never had a problem until recently.

So yes, I do believe that this issue needs to be looked at. If the problem is what you describe, then AnyDVD needs to be made more compatible, not proprietary to working only with other SlySoft products. Not for this type of thing, IMO. And as I said, it always has worked with any program I tried (I tried different ones over the years, but DVD Shrink has always been the hands down best out there).


Thanks,

Dave

[James]

Originally Posted by Thor

AnyDVD, like any other decrypter, should be able to work with other programs. If it can't, then that should be said up front.

It does. There is even a warning message if you try to rip a DVD to .iso

Originally Posted by Thor

There are others, so why would I get one that requires me to spend almost double the money?

You don't. Rip to folders, with AnyDVD, use DVDShrink, problem solved. *Or* use CloneDVD2 for a great deal of convenience.

[Frank]

Originally Posted by Thor

With all due respect, that's where you're wrong. DVD Shrink has worked fine with this for years! It is only within the last few months that this has been happening and it isn't just to me.

And why doesn't the purchase page say that you need CloneDVD2?

But as I said, I have been using AnyDVD with DVD Shrink for long time and never had a problem until recently.

Thanks,

Dave

We'd have a lot to do running after OEMs to make AnyDVD "fit" to the way they want to process (or not process) a DVD.

I did not mean to step on your toes but as time moves on and the studios put more and more sector protection things on the discs, products like shrink, 1click, etc. will have problems and this will force customers to "rip" first, then burn. It may well be that in the past this was not necessary.

And ISOs for DVDs will require ImgBurn as James said.

The product description data for AnyDVD clearly states CloneDVD as a companion product for the process.

[Thor]

Originally Posted by James

It does. There is even a warning message if you try to rip a DVD to .iso


You don't. Rip to folders, with AnyDVD, use DVDShrink, problem solved. *Or* use CloneDVD2 for a great deal of convenience.

What you suggest is not "problem solved". What you suggest IS the problem! That IS the problem that I am now having! That I have o do all that, when I haven't had to with the same exact software for years and the only thing that has changed, is the version of AnyDVD!

Plus I don't think that you're getting the steps I was using before having the problem.

I was NOT saying that I use the right-click menu in AnyDVD to rip to an ISO. What I said was, that I use DVD SHRINK to create the ISO on the hard disk.

1) Load AnyDVD.

2) Load DVD Shrink.

3) DVD Shrink: Open Disc (DVD Shrink reads the disc).

4) In DVD Shrink, click "Reauthor", which means to do the movie only and not the whole disc.

5) In DVD Shrink, select language, subtitles, etc. that you want and starting and ending points.

6) Tell DVD Shrink to create an ISO (instead of burning directly to a blank disc).

7) Close out both DVD Shrink and AnyDVD, load ImgBurn and burn ISO to blank disc.

As you can see, that has nothing to do with using AnyDVD's menu to create an ISO. I am NOT using AnyDVD to "Rip to ISO".

I have been doing it this way, just like many, many other users have, for years! And it has ALWAYS worked!

It is NOT, LATELY, in the last few months, that this has changed and DVD Shrink won't even read the disc and I am forced to use the right-click menu of AnyDVD to select "Rip Movie to hard disk folder", or whatever it is.

The steps I gave you should still work fine and they don't and I should not have to be limited to the two choices that you gave me:

1) Keep doing it the hard way.

2) Buy another one of our products.

That's ridiculous, considering that it worked fine for years and there shouldn't be anything proprietary that stops it working with DVD Shrink and DVD Shrink has not changed for years and that means that something has changed in AnyDVD within the last couple of versions.

Do you see now what it is that I'm talking about? I don't want to do all of those extra steps and shouldn't have to and shouldn't have to be limited to CloneDVD2 to get it to work the way it always has until now and I guarantee you that most AnyDVD users are not using CloneDVD2 and I doubt that would fix it anyway. I would bet any amount of money it would still do the same thing and it shouldn't cost me another $55 to get the product I spent over $100 Euros for, to make that one work.

[SlyFox 1]

Buy CloneDVD2 , its a good idea. Shrink is outdated and will never be updated again, take the few extras steps or buy a good program like CloneDVD2.

[whatever_gong82]

Originally Posted by SlyFox 1

Buy CloneDVD2 , its a good idea. Shrink is outdated and will never be updated again, take the few extras steps or buy a good program like CloneDVD2.

Besides, (to the OP-Original Poster), the person that created DVD Shrink now works for Nero, and works on Nero Recode.

That's the main reason that Shrink will never be updated anymore.

[Adbear]

I can still use your method on older DVD's it just doesn't work on NEWER titles due to the way the encryption works. There is no way round this without re-writing DVD shrink to enable it to access the discs differently. Slysoft can do nothing about this without re-writing DVD shrink to access the discs differently like they've had to do with CloneDVD.
You seem to think that because DVD shrink hasn't changed then it can't be that causing the issue, but it is. It's so old and outdated it can't handle the way the discs need to be accessed to decrypt on the fly with newer encryptions. The only way round this as has already been stated is to rip to the hard drive first thereby removing the disc accessing issue or to get a piece of DVD software that will allow you to access properly on the fly like CloneDVD does.
You say the only thing that has changed is the version of AnyDVD, but it isn't. The DVD's are constantly evolving with new versions of copy protection. If it wasn't necessary to have to access the discs in a different way to how DVD shrink can handle them then they'd never have had to update CloneDVD to handle it either.

[Mr. Burns]

I assume that as more features are added to AnyDVD, it might become more commonplace to use the AnyDVD ripper when using DVD Shrink and other programs. I don't expect Slysoft to care about the DVD Shrink users, but as long as I can still use Dvd Shrink, I'm not terribly bothered by any changes to AnyDvd.

I noticed that whenever I choose to use the new AnyDvd feature to remove the annoying video clips, etc., structural protection is added, and then I must use the AnyDVD ripper to be able to get DVD Shrink to read the DVD (that had no structural protection to begin with).

As long as I avoid that new AnyDvd feature, I only have to use the AnyDvd ripper for DVDs with structural protection (although once in a while, DVD Shrink can read a DVD even though AnyDvd says that there is structural protection on it).

I don't re-author that often, so I have no need to create an Iso and then use ImgBurn. However, if I suddenly had to use the AnyDvd ripper for 90% of the DVDs, even though they had no structural protection to begin with, I'd probably be really annoyed. Lousy, Slysoft! Why are they trying to annoy me?