Cinavia, Feb, 1, 2012 and forwards

[Hawk]

Originally Posted by SamuriHL

And, no Cinavia.

You mean no protection for playback, right

[barnabas01]

Not sure if this is it, but I just picked up a Sony - 3D Wi-Fi Built-In Blu-ray Player BDPS590 and tried playing my backup of Woman in Black (a Sony film), which played fine on my older Sony blu ray. After about 10 min into the movie I got a message saying it was protected material and the sound went out. I popped it back in to the new player the next day to try to recreate it but it played fine.

[omegaman7]

Originally Posted by barnabas01

Not sure if this is it, but I just picked up a Sony - 3D Wi-Fi Built-In Blu-ray Player BDPS590 and tried playing my backup of Woman in Black (a Sony film), which played fine on my older Sony blu ray. After about 10 min into the movie I got a message saying it was protected material and the sound went out. I popped it back in to the new player the next day to try to recreate it but it played fine.

So the player that detected cinavia once, didn't detect it the second time? That's highly irregular!

$ony has been a thorn in my side for some time now...

[zenculture]

At present I use my HTPC for playing all my dvd's so I don't currently have a problem with Cinavia. However, I am looking at getting a surround sound system which will include an Onkyo 616 AV receiver, which I noticed has had a recent firmware update to include Cinavia. I was wondering how this would effect the few Cinavia dvd rips I have, and would there be a work around, any advice would be very much appreciated.

[Adbear]

Isn't the Cinavia only for the built in media player, otherwise how does it know if your input through HDMI etc is playing back from an original or a copy?

[zenculture]

I guess the firmware in the av receiver picks up the watermark in the audio stream as it would with hardware players and checks if the css is present as it won't be with a dvd rip I guess it will stop the audio, need further clarification if possible on this point

[SamuriHL]

Originally Posted by zenculture

I guess the firmware in the av receiver picks up the watermark in the audio stream as it would with hardware players and checks if the css is present as it won't be with a dvd rip I guess it will stop the audio, need further clarification if possible on this point

NO. It can't. I'll save my frustrated rant and simply say NO.

[andy o]

Originally Posted by zenculture

I am looking at getting a surround sound system which will include an Onkyo 616 AV receiver, which I noticed has had a recent firmware update to include Cinavia.

Where have you read this? Google turns up nothing.

So, either, please:

1. stop being so gullible.
or
2. stop spreading FUD.

[CueHD]

Originally Posted by SamuriHL

NO. It can't. I'll save my frustrated rant and simply say NO.

Since the receiver would only receive unencrypted audio, it would have no way of knowing if the source was a copy or not.

[SamuriHL]

Yes exactly. There's so much FUD being spread about this stupid cinavia nonsense. "It's the end of the world. Your toaster will have cinavia!" Give me a break. Once the streams leave the player, guess what, nothing in that chain can determine whether there was AACS on the disc or not. Because by definition it has to be removed in order to play it. People just don't stop to think. They spread nonsense cause it sounds good.