burning software Blu-Ray

[overmind]

Just wondering, once you have the blu ray ripped files on the hard drives, which burning software is "of choice" around here? Do you guys all use Nero, or is there a better alternative? I'm finding Nero is extremely buggy at times and even unstable (only blu ray burns though, not DVD).

Thanks

[Adbear]

I'd have to say it must be yor system if you have problems with blu-ray burning in Nero, as long as you remember to set the udf to 2.5 it's fine, have probably written off around 100 blu-rays in nero with no problems

[SuperGoof]

Besides Nero, I was also able to create a valid Blu-ray disc ("valid" means it was playable by both PowerDVD and WinDVD 8 for VAIO, I did not test it on PS3) out of BDMV folder on a hard drive with following 2 methods:

1) On Vista, using built-in burning software: Insert the disc, right-click, select "Format...", choose "Live File System", select UDF 2.5 as file system (it will be default for Blu-ray). When formatting is complete (in 1-2 min), copy BDMV folder and possibly other folders (CERTIFICATES etc.) to the disc using Windows Explorer.

2) In XP, using Roxio Drag-to-Disc: Insert the dics, format it with Drag-to-Disc (it will use UDF 2.0 file system), copy folders using Windows Explorer, then go to "Options" in Drag-to-Disc, select "Eject Settings", choose "Close the Disc" tab, in "Advanced Eject Options" choose "UDF Version 2.5" for BD and clear "Add ISO/Joliet Support" checkbox. Click OK. When you eject the disk, the file system will be changed to UDF 2.5 and the disc will be closed. Disc created this way will be playable by both PowerDVD and WinDVD 8.

You should be able to use Nero InCD as well (unless it also adds ISO/Joliet structures to disc as it does with DVDs: PowerDVD does not like them).

With Nero, it seems you have to use Nero Burning ROM and manually select UDF 2.5 to create a valid disc. If you leave the default, or use Nero Express, UDF 1.02 will be used. (I did not use Nero Express on a real disc, but when I created a Blu-ray image with it, I ended up with UDF 1.02 - checked by IsoBuster).

ImgBurn does not create valid Blu-ray discs - it uses UDF 1.02 file system (which you cannot change).

Roxio EMC 9 "Home" burns with UDF 2.5, but also adds ISO/Joliet file system (and there is no setting to change this). Interestingly, WinDVD 8 plays such a disc, but PowerDVD doesn't (But PowerDVD will play a disc with UDF 1.02 file system if there is no ISO/Joliet, like that created by ImgBurn).

So Blu-ray is already very advanced IMHO: not only 25GB BD-REs are widely available and you can already buy BD-RE 50GB as well, but to burn them you do not need any additional software at all if you use Vista. You also do not have to worry how exactly files will be placed to the disc (as in the case of DVDs) - this is handled by UDF 2.5 file system. Also TDK says that you can rewrite their discs 10,000 times! This is just amazing.

[Webslinger]

Originally Posted by SuperGoof

2) In XP, using Roxio Drag-to-Disc: Insert the dics, format it with Drag-to-Disc (it will use UDF 2.0 file system), copy folders using Windows Explorer, then go to "Options" in Drag-to-Disc, select "Eject Settings", choose "Close the Disc" tab, in "Advanced Eject Options" choose "UDF Version 2.5" for BD and clear "Add ISO/Joliet Support" checkbox. Click OK. When you eject the disk, the file system will be changed to UDF 2.5 and the disc will be closed. Disc created this way will be playable by both PowerDVD and WinDVD 8.

You should be able to use Nero InCD as well (unless it also adds ISO/Joliet structures to disc as it does with DVDs: PowerDVD does not like them).

Slysoft products do not like packet writing software either. Avoid incd and dragtodisc.

[Charlie]

I recall that imgburn will do HD and BD as well in a change log. Imgburn is free too.

[overmind]

Originally Posted by SuperGoof

Besides Nero, I was also able to create a valid Blu-ray disc ("valid" means it was playable by both PowerDVD and WinDVD 8 for VAIO, I did not test it on PS3) out of BDMV folder on a hard drive with following 2 methods:

1) On Vista, using built-in burning software: Insert the disc, right-click, select "Format...", choose "Live File System", select UDF 2.5 as file system (it will be default for Blu-ray). When formatting is complete (in 1-2 min), copy BDMV folder and possibly other folders (CERTIFICATES etc.) to the disc using Windows Explorer.

2) In XP, using Roxio Drag-to-Disc: Insert the dics, format it with Drag-to-Disc (it will use UDF 2.0 file system), copy folders using Windows Explorer, then go to "Options" in Drag-to-Disc, select "Eject Settings", choose "Close the Disc" tab, in "Advanced Eject Options" choose "UDF Version 2.5" for BD and clear "Add ISO/Joliet Support" checkbox. Click OK. When you eject the disk, the file system will be changed to UDF 2.5 and the disc will be closed. Disc created this way will be playable by both PowerDVD and WinDVD 8.

You should be able to use Nero InCD as well (unless it also adds ISO/Joliet structures to disc as it does with DVDs: PowerDVD does not like them).

With Nero, it seems you have to use Nero Burning ROM and manually select UDF 2.5 to create a valid disc. If you leave the default, or use Nero Express, UDF 1.02 will be used. (I did not use Nero Express on a real disc, but when I created a Blu-ray image with it, I ended up with UDF 1.02 - checked by IsoBuster).

ImgBurn does not create valid Blu-ray discs - it uses UDF 1.02 file system (which you cannot change).

Roxio EMC 9 "Home" burns with UDF 2.5, but also adds ISO/Joliet file system (and there is no setting to change this). Interestingly, WinDVD 8 plays such a disc, but PowerDVD doesn't (But PowerDVD will play a disc with UDF 1.02 file system if there is no ISO/Joliet, like that created by ImgBurn).

So Blu-ray is already very advanced IMHO: not only 25GB BD-REs are widely available and you can already buy BD-RE 50GB as well, but to burn them you do not need any additional software at all if you use Vista. You also do not have to worry how exactly files will be placed to the disc (as in the case of DVDs) - this is handled by UDF 2.5 file system. Also TDK says that you can rewrite their discs 10,000 times! This is just amazing.

SuperGoof, this is great, i really didnt think I could do this in Vista (duh, i feel like an idiot). I tried your method of just using Vista to burn and it worked way better.

Thanks again

[SuperGoof]

Originally Posted by overmind

SuperGoof, this is great, i really didnt think I could do this in Vista (duh, i feel like an idiot). I tried your method of just using Vista to burn and it worked way better.

Thanks again

You are welcome!

Just curious: What kind of disc you created (i.e. BD25 or BD50) with this method? Did you try to play it on PS3 and/or other (standalone) player?

I only experimented with BD-RE 25GB and did not check whether it plays on standalone players.

[SuperGoof]

Originally Posted by Charlie

I recall that imgburn will do HD and BD as well in a change log. Imgburn is free too.

ImgBurn burns to BD, but uses wrong UDF file system (1.02 instead of 2.5). So the resulting disc in not compliant to the specs.

[James]

Originally Posted by SuperGoof

ImgBurn burns to BD, but uses wrong UDF file system (1.02 instead of 2.5). So the resulting disc in not compliant to the specs.

Okay, so AnyDVD ripper just needs to get the option to write an .iso file (with UDF2.5) and ImgBurn will write it. Correct?

[SuperGoof]

Originally Posted by James

Okay, so AnyDVD ripper just needs to get the option to write an .iso file (with UDF2.5) and ImgBurn will write it. Correct?

Maybe. I was using ImgBurn in "Build" mode. In this mode it was using UDF1.02 regardless whether I was writing directly to the BD-RE disc or to the image. I can try to burn UDF2.5 image (created with Nero) to the disc with ImgBurn.

I think AnyDVD ripper should always use UDF2.5 for BD/HD-DVD images and UDF1.02 for DVD images. There should be no option to change this.