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Old 21st August 2007, 21:17
55Rip 55Rip is offline
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Unhappy DVD drive will not read backup disc

Sorry about the long write up but I have successfully been using CloneDVD2 (2.8.9.9 to current version 2.9.1.1), AnyDVD (5.4.1.1 to current version 6.1.6.9) and Roxio Easy Media Creator 7.5 w/drag to disk together for well over a year with no conflict issues. I have always updated the CloneDVD2 and AnyDVD with the latest versions to stay current.

I recently downloaded and installed AnyDVD 6.1.6.9 and now I cannot play newly created or previously backup disk with my optical disk drive. The windows explore and the video software PowerDVD does not recognize the drive (it says “No Disc In Drive”). Both these apps recognized and accessed the disc before the update. The backups play fine on the DVD player. The optical drive will recognize my original DVD disk, CD and CDRW disk. The optical drive also recognizes DVDs make on my DVR. The drive just won’t recognize the backup disk it created or DVD disk that are used for data storage (i.e. photos). I have totally uninstalled AnyDVD and the drive will still do not recognize any of the backup disk I've created.

My drive is a NEC-1100a with a firmware set of 10FD.

I recently noticed that AnyDVD displays a message something like “AnyDVD is preparing your disk for use please wait”. It never did this before. Is this something new that may be in conflict with my Roxio drag to disk? I have turned off the Roxio drag to disk (you cannot uninstall drag to disk without uninstalling the entire Roxio Easy Media Creator, I need the Roxio for my other video projects) and the drive is still not recognized.

I have also read through and tried all the items on the post Frequently Asked Questions (READ BEFORE YOU POST) and still cannot get the drive to work. (i.e. I’ve uninstalled AnyDVD and run CCleaner, I’ve upgraded to AnyDVD 6.1.7.0).

I have read through the postings in the forum and have found quite a few users updating to 6.1.6.5 through 6.1.6.9 and are having similar problems. Something has changed some setting on my system where my drive does not work. I know you have said that AnyDVD doesn’t affect your optical drive but the drive worked perfectly fine until AnyDVD was updated.

It is a shame this is happening because AnyDVD and CloneDVD were such stable products for the longest time

Please let me know if you have any solutions.
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Old 21st August 2007, 21:28
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I have already updated to AnyDVD 6.1.7.0 and CloneDVD2 2.9.1.2 and still have the same problem. Nothing has changed.
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Old 21st August 2007, 23:43
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w/drag to disk together
Time to get rid of this junk. Packet writing software does tend to cause conflicts--and is less stable than using dvd-ram.

1. visit http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=1307

2. a) Download imgburn. It's a free program: http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
(it's also an excellent program imo)

b) Go to Tools > Filter Driver Load Order. Click "Clipboard". Then paste the information you pasted into your clipboard into your next post (ctrl-v).
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Old 22nd August 2007, 08:33
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@ 55Rip,

It is a known well-documented fact that Any and All Packet Writing Software Programs are pure garbage and should be avoided at ALL cost.

Concerning the current Firmware for your NEC-1100a. The quoted “1100FD” does not appear to be correct/valid version number.

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Old 22nd August 2007, 20:45
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Unhappy DVD drive will not read backup disc

Thank you everyone for reponding to my post!

Coaster:
I double checked the firmware for the NEC 1100a and it is 10FD


Webslinger:

This what I got when I ran ImgBurn
===============================================
Filter Driver Load Order - ImgBurn v2.3.2.0
===============================================

Upper Device Filter: redbook
Upper Class Filter: pwd_2k
Upper Class Filter: Cdralw2k
Upper Class Filter: GEARAspiWDM
Device: CD/DVD-ROM Device
Lower Class Filter: Cdr4_xp
Lower Class Filter: ASAPIW2k
Lower Class Filter: PFC
Lower Class Filter: ElbyDelay
Lower Class Filter: AnyDVD
Lower Class Filter: PxHelp20
Lower Device Filter: imapi

Filter Name: redbook
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\redbook.sys
File Version: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-215
File Description: Redbook Audio Filter Driver
Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Product Version: 5.1.2600.2180
Company Name: Microsoft Corporation
Copyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Filter Name: pwd_2k
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\pwd_2k.sys
File Version: 7.5.0.47
File Description: Win2000 Framework for Packet Write Driver
Product Name: Drag-to-Disc
Product Version: 7.5.0.47
Company Name: Sonic Solutions
Copyright: Copyright (c) 1994-2005 Sonic Solutions

Filter Name: Cdralw2k
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\Cdralw2k.sys
File Version: 7.5.0.47
File Description: CDRAL for Windows 2000 Kernel Driver
Product Name: Drag-to-Disc
Product Version: 7.5.0.47
Company Name: Sonic Solutions
Copyright: Copyright (c) 1994-2005 Sonic Solutions

Filter Name: GEARAspiWDM
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\GEARAspiWDM.sys
File Version: 1.023 [1.0.2.3]
File Description: Filter Driver for 2k and XP
Product Name: GEARAspi
Product Version: 7.xx [1.0.2.3]
Company Name: GEAR Software
Copyright: Copyright (c) GEAR Software 2003

Filter Name: Cdr4_xp
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\Cdr4_xp.sys
File Version: 7.5.0.47
File Description: CDR4 CD and DVD Burning Helper Driver
Product Name: Drag-to-Disc
Product Version: 7.5.0.47
Company Name: Sonic Solutions
Copyright: Copyright (c) 1994-2005 Sonic Solutions

Filter Name: ASAPIW2k
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ASAPIW2k.sys
File Version: 6, 0, 2, 27 [6.0.2.27]
File Description: ASAPI
Product Name: asapi
Product Version: 6, 0, 2, 0 [6.0.2.0]
Company Name: Pinnacle Systems GmbH
Copyright: (c) 1997-2003 by Pinnacle Systems GmbH

Filter Name: PFC
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\pfc.sys
File Version: 2, 5, 0, 204 [2.5.0.204]
File Description: Padus(R) ASPI Shell
Product Name: Padus(R) ASPI Shell
Product Version: 2, 5, 0, 204 [2.5.0.204]
Company Name: Padus, Inc.
Copyright: (C) Padus, Inc. 1999-2001. All rights reserved.

Filter Name: ElbyDelay
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\Drivers\ElbyDelay.sys
File Version: 5, 1, 0, 1 [5.1.0.1]
File Description: Elby Delay Lower Filter Driver
Product Name: CDRTools
Product Version: 5, 1, 0, 1 [5.1.0.1]
Company Name: Elaborate Bytes AG
Copyright: Copyright (C) 2003 - 2006 Elaborate Bytes AG

Filter Name: AnyDVD
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\Drivers\AnyDVD.sys
File Version: 6.1.7.0
File Description: AnyDVD Filter Driver
Product Name: AnyDVD
Product Version: 6.1.7.0
Company Name: SlySoft, Inc.
Copyright: Copyright 2002 - 2007 SlySoft, Inc.

Filter Name: PxHelp20
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\PxHelp20.sys
File Version: 2.03.28a [2.3.28.0]
File Description: Px Engine Device Driver for Windows 2000/XP
Product Name: PxHelp20
Product Version: [2.0.0.0]
Company Name: Sonic Solutions
Copyright: Copyright © Sonic Solutions

Filter Name: imapi
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\imapi.sys
File Version: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-215
File Description: IMAPI Kernel Driver
Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Product Version: 5.1.2600.2180
Company Name: Microsoft Corporation
Copyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Webslinger: I turned off AnyDVD and Drag to Disc and this is info ImgBurn gave me about the disc that I burned with AnyDVD 6.1.7.0 and CloneDVD 2.9.1.2 but will not playback on the optical drive that made it. None of my apps recognizes the disk CloneDVD or AnyDVD (Failed to read DVD).

_NEC DVD+RW ND-1100A 10FD (ATA)
Current Profile: DVD+RW

Disc Information:
Status: Complete
Erasable: Yes
Formatted: No (Started)
Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x

TOC Information:
Session 1...
-> Track 01 (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 2289519)
-> LeadOut (LBA: 2289520)

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Disc ID: PHILIPS-041-00
Book Type: DVD+RW
Part Version: 2
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 1
Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)
Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,486,127
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

Current Format Capacity:
Sectors: 2,289,520
Size: 4,688,936,960 bytes
Time: 508:48:70 (MM:SS:FF)

Preferred Format Capacity:
Sectors: 2,295,104
Size: 4,700,372,992 bytes
Time: 510:03:29 (MM:SS:FF)

Maximum Format Capacity:
Sectors: 2,295,104
Size: 4,700,372,992 bytes
Time: 510:03:29 (MM:SS:FF)

Please review and let me know what you think!

oldjoe:

I tried deleting the driver for the NEC 1100a and letting XP install the driver on startup. The driver was reinstalled correctly but the problem still exist. I will uninstall Roxio and try to reinstall without Drag to Disk after I back up my video projects.

Sorry again for the long post and thanks again for everyones response!
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Old 22nd August 2007, 20:47
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Thank you everyone for reponding to my post!

Coaster:
I double checked the firmware for the NEC 1100a and it is 10FD


Webslinger:

This what I got when I ran ImgBurn
===============================================
Filter Driver Load Order - ImgBurn v2.3.2.0
===============================================

Upper Device Filter: redbook
Upper Class Filter: pwd_2k
Upper Class Filter: Cdralw2k
Upper Class Filter: GEARAspiWDM
Device: CD/DVD-ROM Device
Lower Class Filter: Cdr4_xp
Lower Class Filter: ASAPIW2k
Lower Class Filter: PFC
Lower Class Filter: ElbyDelay
Lower Class Filter: AnyDVD
Lower Class Filter: PxHelp20
Lower Device Filter: imapi

Filter Name: redbook
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\redbook.sys
File Version: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-215
File Description: Redbook Audio Filter Driver
Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Product Version: 5.1.2600.2180
Company Name: Microsoft Corporation
Copyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Filter Name: pwd_2k
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\pwd_2k.sys
File Version: 7.5.0.47
File Description: Win2000 Framework for Packet Write Driver
Product Name: Drag-to-Disc
Product Version: 7.5.0.47
Company Name: Sonic Solutions
Copyright: Copyright (c) 1994-2005 Sonic Solutions

Filter Name: Cdralw2k
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\Cdralw2k.sys
File Version: 7.5.0.47
File Description: CDRAL for Windows 2000 Kernel Driver
Product Name: Drag-to-Disc
Product Version: 7.5.0.47
Company Name: Sonic Solutions
Copyright: Copyright (c) 1994-2005 Sonic Solutions

Filter Name: GEARAspiWDM
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\GEARAspiWDM.sys
File Version: 1.023 [1.0.2.3]
File Description: Filter Driver for 2k and XP
Product Name: GEARAspi
Product Version: 7.xx [1.0.2.3]
Company Name: GEAR Software
Copyright: Copyright (c) GEAR Software 2003

Filter Name: Cdr4_xp
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\Cdr4_xp.sys
File Version: 7.5.0.47
File Description: CDR4 CD and DVD Burning Helper Driver
Product Name: Drag-to-Disc
Product Version: 7.5.0.47
Company Name: Sonic Solutions
Copyright: Copyright (c) 1994-2005 Sonic Solutions

Filter Name: ASAPIW2k
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ASAPIW2k.sys
File Version: 6, 0, 2, 27 [6.0.2.27]
File Description: ASAPI
Product Name: asapi
Product Version: 6, 0, 2, 0 [6.0.2.0]
Company Name: Pinnacle Systems GmbH
Copyright: (c) 1997-2003 by Pinnacle Systems GmbH

Filter Name: PFC
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\pfc.sys
File Version: 2, 5, 0, 204 [2.5.0.204]
File Description: Padus(R) ASPI Shell
Product Name: Padus(R) ASPI Shell
Product Version: 2, 5, 0, 204 [2.5.0.204]
Company Name: Padus, Inc.
Copyright: (C) Padus, Inc. 1999-2001. All rights reserved.

Filter Name: ElbyDelay
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\Drivers\ElbyDelay.sys
File Version: 5, 1, 0, 1 [5.1.0.1]
File Description: Elby Delay Lower Filter Driver
Product Name: CDRTools
Product Version: 5, 1, 0, 1 [5.1.0.1]
Company Name: Elaborate Bytes AG
Copyright: Copyright (C) 2003 - 2006 Elaborate Bytes AG

Filter Name: AnyDVD
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\Drivers\AnyDVD.sys
File Version: 6.1.7.0
File Description: AnyDVD Filter Driver
Product Name: AnyDVD
Product Version: 6.1.7.0
Company Name: SlySoft, Inc.
Copyright: Copyright 2002 - 2007 SlySoft, Inc.

Filter Name: PxHelp20
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\PxHelp20.sys
File Version: 2.03.28a [2.3.28.0]
File Description: Px Engine Device Driver for Windows 2000/XP
Product Name: PxHelp20
Product Version: [2.0.0.0]
Company Name: Sonic Solutions
Copyright: Copyright © Sonic Solutions

Filter Name: imapi
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\imapi.sys
File Version: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-215
File Description: IMAPI Kernel Driver
Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Product Version: 5.1.2600.2180
Company Name: Microsoft Corporation
Copyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Webslinger: I turned off AnyDVD and Drag to Disc and this is info ImgBurn gave me about the disc that I burned with AnyDVD 6.1.7.0 and CloneDVD 2.9.1.2 but will not playback on the optical drive that made it. None of my apps recognizes the disk CloneDVD or AnyDVD (Failed to read DVD).

_NEC DVD+RW ND-1100A 10FD (ATA)
Current Profile: DVD+RW

Disc Information:
Status: Complete
Erasable: Yes
Formatted: No (Started)
Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x

TOC Information:
Session 1...
-> Track 01 (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 2289519)
-> LeadOut (LBA: 2289520)

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Disc ID: PHILIPS-041-00
Book Type: DVD+RW
Part Version: 2
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 1
Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)
Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,486,127
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

Current Format Capacity:
Sectors: 2,289,520
Size: 4,688,936,960 bytes
Time: 508:48:70 (MM:SS:FF)

Preferred Format Capacity:
Sectors: 2,295,104
Size: 4,700,372,992 bytes
Time: 510:03:29 (MM:SS:FF)

Maximum Format Capacity:
Sectors: 2,295,104
Size: 4,700,372,992 bytes
Time: 510:03:29 (MM:SS:FF)

Please review and let me know what you think!

oldjoe:

I tried deleting the driver for the NEC 1100a and letting XP install the driver on startup. The driver was reinstalled correctly but the problem still exist. I will uninstall Roxio and try to reinstall without Drag to Disk after I back up my video projects.

Sorry again for the long post and thanks again for everyones response!
Wow, get rid of all that Sonic BS.
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Old 22nd August 2007, 22:04
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@ 55Rip,

Unfortunately “Turning Off” Drag-to-Disc is totally insufficient. By “Turning Off” the Drag-to-Disc software program the Drag-to-Disc software program Cdralw2K.sys and pwd_2k.sys Drivers are still installed on your Computer as clearly evident by your #7 posting ->

“”Filter Name: Cdralw2k
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\Cdralw2k.sys
File Version: 7.5.0.47
File Description: CDRAL for Windows 2000 Kernel Driver
Product Name: Drag-to-Disc

Product Version: 7.5.0.47
Company Name: Sonic Solutions
Copyright: Copyright (c) 1994-2005 Sonic Solutions

Filter Name: pwd_2k
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\pwd_2k.sys
File Version: 7.5.0.47
File Description: Win2000 Framework for Packet Write Driver
Product Name: Drag-to-Disc
Product Version: 7.5.0.47
Company Name: Sonic Solutions
Copyright: Copyright (c) 1994-2005 Sonic Solutions””

You need to completely and totally remove ALL Sonic software programs. Also for effective trouble shooting purposes strongly suggest removing all other CD/DVD Padus, Pinnacle and Gear Burning programs.

Regards,
Coaster

Last edited by Coaster; 22nd August 2007 at 22:07.
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Old 22nd August 2007, 22:22
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@ 55Rip,

Concerning your ND-1100A Firmware. Your ND-1100A is a Dell OEM drive and your 10FD Firmware is not the most current up to date Firmware available. Version 10GE Firmware is available ->

http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=301

Regards,
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Old 23rd August 2007, 01:09
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Thank you everyone for reponding to my post!

Coaster:
I double checked the firmware for the NEC 1100a and it is 10FD


Webslinger:

This what I got when I ran ImgBurn

Filter Name: pwd_2k
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\pwd_2k.sys
File Version: 7.5.0.47
File Description: Win2000 Framework for Packet Write Driver
Product Name: Drag-to-Disc
Product Version: 7.5.0.47
Company Name: Sonic Solutions
Copyright: Copyright (c) 1994-2005 Sonic Solutions

Filter Name: Cdralw2k
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\Cdralw2k.sys
File Version: 7.5.0.47
File Description: CDRAL for Windows 2000 Kernel Driver
Product Name: Drag-to-Disc
Product Version: 7.5.0.47
Company Name: Sonic Solutions
Copyright: Copyright (c) 1994-2005 Sonic Solutions


Filter Name: Cdr4_xp
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\Cdr4_xp.sys
File Version: 7.5.0.47
File Description: CDR4 CD and DVD Burning Helper Driver
Product Name: Drag-to-Disc
Product Version: 7.5.0.47
Company Name: Sonic Solutions
Copyright: Copyright (c) 1994-2005 Sonic Solutions

Uninstall Sonic's Drag-to-Disc packet writing nonsense. Ensure the three entries I just quoted no longer appear in your filters after rebooting.
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Old 24th August 2007, 14:06
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Thanks again to everyone for reponding to my post!

Coaster:
A couple of years ago I updated the firmware driver for the NEC 1100a from 10FD to the latest 10GE. The update rendered the drive totally inoperable to the point where Dell sent out a Service Tech and replaced the optical drive at no cost. I think it was even out of warranty. I don't want to go down that road again!

Everyone:
Since I am unable to uninstall Drag To Disk, what would happen if I disabled Drag To Disk so it would not startup and deleted the drivers that are causing the problem so they don't load?

Everyone:
I got one for you. The other night with Drag To Disk and AnyDVD enabled I used CloneDVD to backup an original disk to CloneDVD temp folder. When I went to use CloneDVD to burn it to a blank disk AnyDVD gave the message "Warning: Failed To Read DVD" and prevented me from buning to a blank disk. With Drag To Disk still enabled, I disable AnyDVD and CloneDVD was then able to burn to the blank disk. What do you think?
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