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    Which current software players have full Blu-ray menu support (including BD-J)?

    I know some of them:
    1. ArcSoft TotalMedia Theatre;
    2. CyberLink PowerDVD;
    3. Corel/sMedio WinDVD (no BDMV folders support);
    4. Nero Blu-ray Player;
    5. DVDFab Media Player (no BD3D support), powered by XBMC;
    6. Leawo Blu-ray Player (no BD3D support), powered by XBMC.

    Which else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by probep View Post
    Which else?
    I think you got them all

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    Maybe Aiseesoft Blu-ray Player, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErichV View Post
    Maybe Aiseesoft Blu-ray Player, too.

    IIRC Aiseesoft was one of the Chinese rip-off products that came with a hidden cracked AnyDVD.
    Don't know their player, but you can bet that under the hood it's som XMBC or so...
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    It also should be noted that DVDFab Media Player still has a lot of trouble with some BD-J menu's, some don't load or are clunky/broken (even with V2) so it probably doesn't belong on the "full menu support" list.

    Although in fairness what started from XBMC, is now way beyond what XBMC/libbluray were/are capable of, but still not close to TMT/PDVD yet.

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    but probably still because it relies on an outdated version of xmbc. (freeware) and stolen code is stolen code.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ch3vr0n View Post
    but probably still because it relies on an outdated version of xmbc. (freeware) and stolen code is stolen code.
    I don't think it's that, XBMC's menu support is terrible, even some HDMV menus don't work correctly let alone java menus, same goes for the latest libbluray project, neither are close to the DVDFab player (which now looks like a PDVD/TMT UI rip off )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ch3vr0n View Post
    but probably still because it relies on an outdated version of xmbc. (freeware) and stolen code is stolen code.
    It's open-source code, which can be reused (even in commercial software) with proper attribution and/or source code posting as required by the appropriate license. Though I don't know enough about the rules to say for certain if DVDFab complied with them, XBMC acknowledges in its own wiki that DVDFab Media Player is derived from XBMC source code -- listed alongside numerous other forks & derivatives of XBMC. That does not automatically mean it's "stolen code"; I wouldn't be surprised if JRiver Media Center also uses XBMC code for its BD menu support, and it's not listed by XBMC as a fork/derivative.

    That said, for now only licensed players (TMT, PDVD, WinDVD & Nero) have full BD menu support, BD-J as well as HDMV. Those licenses also mean their current versions have Cinavia, presently managed by AnyDVD HD's "Cinavia fix" but subject to being broken again in any future player update; that's why development of unlicensed players with menus, including XBMC and its forks/derivatives (including, yes, even DVDFab), is so important as they should never have Cinavia. Unlike AACS & BD+, Cinavia support is not needed for playback; it's only required in licensed BD players because BDA licenses demand it. BD players that don't need no stinkin' BDA licenses don't need Cinavia either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RBBrittain View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if JRiver Media Center also uses XBMC code for its BD menu support, and it's not listed by XBMC as a fork/derivative.
    FYI - JRiver Media Center does not have any BD Menu Support (and hence does not use XBMC code). It instead relies on Nevcairiel's Filters to present a list of available titles and streams from which the user can choose. For the selected stream, it has some additional logic to select a default combination of Audio / Subtitle based on your LANG settings but on many BD you still need to hunt out the correct stream for the forced subs. The good news is you can create individual entries for your desired Playlists and MC will also remember what streams you select (so when you work out what sub track is the forced one it will be remembered for the next playback).

    One day, it would be great to have a working Open Source Direct Show Menu filter that all players could leverage off.
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    i was hoping this might come to VLC at some point....

    https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic...385629#p385629

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